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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
Second round picks can be recouped in trades and Saarela was the team's ninth rated prospect. Remember the Rangers are apparently 30th out of 30 in prospect quality.
- MidnightMarauder

You know what the Rangers need, is guys who shoot right handed. Draft some of those guys.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 3:44 PM ET
I did it 3 years with the Sixers and now I am reborn. Tanking isn't that bad
- TPC

Leafs fans love it and look what the got and are getting. Nylander, Marner, Rielly and one of Matthews/Laine.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 18 @ 3:44 PM ET
Leafs fans love it and look what the got and are getting. Nylander, Marner, Rielly and one of Matthews/Laine.
- tomburton99

The problem is you need draft picks to tank...Rangers don't have any of those haha
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 3:47 PM ET
The problem is you need draft picks to tank...Rangers don't have any of those haha
- TPC

I know.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 18 @ 3:48 PM ET
Second round picks can be recouped in trades and Saarela was the team's ninth rated prospect. Remember the Rangers are apparently 30th out of 30 in prospect quality.
- MidnightMarauder


Here's my problem MM. The Rangers should still have them and Saarela. There was no need to get rid of them.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 18 @ 3:50 PM ET
Here's my problem MM. The Rangers should still have them and Saarela. There was no need to get rid of them.
- mdw7413



I could have handled that trade is E Staal resigns for dirt-cheap (say $3M or so).

Other than that, we got Habbed...err...hosed on that deal.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 18 @ 3:50 PM ET
Here's my problem MM. The Rangers should still have them and Saarela. There was no need to get rid of them.
- mdw7413

And they should have traded Yandle for around the price Kris Russell went for, he probably could of brought back more.

That is why I am not all on board with Gorton yet. He has to earn my trust. To many uh ohs last season

Sign Kreider long term and I will start to believe in commissioner Gorton
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

May 18 @ 3:51 PM ET
Here's my problem MM. The Rangers should still have them and Saarela. There was no need to get rid of them.
- mdw7413

And with our luck, Saarela will of course make Laine look like a 7th rounder
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

May 18 @ 3:52 PM ET
I could have handled that trade is E Staal resigns for dirt-cheap (say $3M or so).

Other than that, we got Habbed...err...hosed on that deal.

- mames11

The way he played, I'm not sure I want him even for 3M per...
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 18 @ 3:53 PM ET
The way he played, I'm not sure I want him even for 3M per...
- 21peter

Yep just cut the losses and move on
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 18 @ 3:54 PM ET
The way he played, I'm not sure I want him even for 3M per...
- 21peter

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 18 @ 3:54 PM ET
I could have handled that trade is E Staal resigns for dirt-cheap (say $3M or so).

Other than that, we got Habbed...err...hosed on that deal.

- mames11



Sorry mames, I want nothing to do with him. Even dirt cheap.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 18 @ 3:57 PM ET
Sorry mames, I want nothing to do with him. Even dirt cheap.
- mdw7413



I feel the same. He was good on faceoffs and can score. Though, I feel like he's a pitcher that can no longer throws strikes (i.e. Dontrell Willis) and has simply lost his ability to do his thing; and that's score goals.

nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 18 @ 3:58 PM ET
Whoa...slow down there. Where are these guys coming from and for what cost (trade and cap hit)?

If I am going to have more than one new face on D, then I would take a serious look at this Jensen kid who is lighting it up in the Worlds. Let's get more of our own in the lineup and bring back some identity to the team without a rebuild overhaul.

- mames11

The Av's want a defensive dman. Maybe Klein+ a pick like someone suggested. He's a RFA and look what the Devils were able to give for Palmieri. Sign him 6 years 4.5-5 per.
Shattenkirk I'd offer Brassard. Makes sense for both sides, the Blues will likely lose Backes to FA and need a center and Shattenkirk is an UFA next year.
That gives you 3 offensive dmen capable of putting up 40+ pts and hopefully Skeji can continue to develop and join them in a year or 2.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 18 @ 4:01 PM ET
Ok...but listen to your logic.

If the Rangers window for winning is closing, then why would I want to wait a few years when we had a proven player who is probably the fasted skater in the league and can score. 15 goals @ $4M someone said...we have that at $7.5M in Nash.

- mames11



What's the confusion? Nash had his worst year since his first year, last season, and while his stats sucked that you compared he to Hagelin is hysterical.

Nash was fresh off a 42 goal season and although it would be unlikely, he would duplicate that, who would have thought he scored 15 for an entire season?

Hagelin has been in the league for five seasons now and his career high is 39 points in an entire year.

Yes the team overpaid to retain Girardi and Staal, but the defensemen generally get more than the average winger, and there are plenty of league-wide examples to support that statement.

The team definitely missed Hagelin's speed, penalty killing ability and forecheck presence but let's cut the sh!t, signing Hagelin to that amount would have cost the team Miller or Kreider.

As disappointing as Kreider was, this past season, I would want the Rangers to retain him over Hagelin any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 18 @ 4:03 PM ET
And with our luck, Saarela will of course make Laine look like a 7th rounder
- 21peter



Have you seen Laine's highlight reel on YouTube?

This isn't happening even if Saarela turns out to be a good NHLer.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 18 @ 4:03 PM ET
The Av's want a defensive dman. Maybe Klein+ a pick like someone suggested. He's a RFA and look what the Devils were able to give for Palmieri. Sign him 6 years 4.5-5 per.
Shattenkirk I'd offer Brassard. Makes sense for both sides, the Blues will likely lose Backes to FA and need a center and Shattenkirk is an UFA next year.
That gives you 3 offensive dmen capable of putting up 40+ pts and hopefully Skeji can continue to develop and join them in a year or 2.

- nyrangers9479



Well...better hope Rangers always have the puck or Hank will Patrick Roy himself out of Dodge (I am speaking, of course, as if you are old enough to remember when Roy played for the Habs).
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 4:05 PM ET
Have you seen Laine's highlight reel on YouTube?

This isn't happening even if Saarela turns out to be a good NHLer.

- MidnightMarauder

Laine is going to be so good. Winnipeg got so lucky.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
Here's my problem MM. The Rangers should still have them and Saarela. There was no need to get rid of them.
- mdw7413



They gambled and lost, these things happen. This fan base is just hypersensitive to dealing away futures because they don't have that many to hang their hat on.

Buchnevich, Gropp, Kovacs, Skjei, Graves, Halverson, Shesterkin and perhaps Tambellini. Other than that, and maybe Nieves, the cupboard is relatively bare and out of the aforementioned players, only three or four have a shot at being legitimate contributors.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
Leafs fans love it and look what the got and are getting. Nylander, Marner, Rielly and one of Matthews/Laine.
- tomburton99


if you want a team that's going to be loaded with young future stars the NY Rangers are never ever ever going to be the team for you
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

May 18 @ 4:08 PM ET
Have you seen Laine's highlight reel on YouTube?

This isn't happening even if Saarela turns out to be a good NHLer.

- MidnightMarauder

I know. Watched a couple Finn games in the worlds. He's pure elite! btw - so is Puljujarvi.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 18 @ 4:08 PM ET
Laine is going to be so good. Winnipeg got so lucky.
- tomburton99



Big kid that can skate, shoot and doesn't hesitate in the offensive zone. I would not be stunned if the Leafs grab him over Matthews.

Matthews is going to be good but I don't know if it's automatic anymore. Laine has really impressed down the stretch.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

May 18 @ 4:08 PM ET
The Av's want a defensive dman. Maybe Klein+ a pick like someone suggested. He's a RFA and look what the Devils were able to give for Palmieri. Sign him 6 years 4.5-5 per.
Shattenkirk I'd offer Brassard. Makes sense for both sides, the Blues will likely lose Backes to FA and need a center and Shattenkirk is an UFA next year.
That gives you 3 offensive dmen capable of putting up 40+ pts and hopefully Skeji can continue to develop and join them in a year or 2.

- nyrangers9479

Barrie will require Skjei+

Backes will resign with the Blues
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 18 @ 4:09 PM ET
What's the confusion? Nash had his worst year since his first year, last season, and while his stats sucked that you compared he to Hagelin is hysterical.

Nash was fresh off a 42 goal season and although it would be unlikely, he would duplicate that, who would have thought he scored 15 for an entire season?

Hagelin has been in the league for five seasons now and his career high is 39 points in an entire year.

Yes the team overpaid to retain Girardi and Staal, but the defensemen generally get more than the average winger, and there are plenty of league-wide examples to support that statement.

The team definitely missed Hagelin's speed, penalty killing ability and forecheck presence but let's cut the sh!t, signing Hagelin to that amount would have cost the team Miller or Kreider.

As disappointing as Kreider was, this past season, I would want the Rangers to retain him over Hagelin any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

- MidnightMarauder



You mentioned waiting a few season for a prospect to develop; therefore saying Hags was expendable for his asking price. If you want a Cup with this team, then the Rangers do not have a few years to wait. By that time, it will be a rebuilding stage.

You forget what was being said? In my opinion, the Hags trade was the worst because of the win now plan.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 4:09 PM ET
if you want a team that's going to be loaded with young future stars the NY Rangers are never ever ever going to be the team for you
- jimbro83



Killing my dream Jimbo.
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