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TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
5.8 cap hit for a 4th liner for the next 4 years. That is all
- mdw7413

yep, and i can't believe the Rangers offered him that 6 years @ 6 million contract before they traded him...could you imagine us right now?
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
So, which deal/ trade was the worse; Cally, Dan Boyle, Yandle, Cam, Hags, EStaal?
- 21peter



Boyle was a FA signing...so remove that one.

Cally hurts, but he is overpaid now.

Yandle lost us Duke and he sucked on D...his played position. Y helped in some areas, but then hurt in others.

Talbot...he was a backup, after all and was never replacing Hank. Hoped for more, but return was ok.

Hags...lost and got nothing. Is he overpaid? If on the Rangers, probably; though speed cannot be taught...and he has tons of it. Playoff performer, too.

E Staal...just pretending it never happened because it played out that way.

My vote is the Hags deal.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
Tie for first.

Yeah Call was added in along with 2 first picks for MSL, but without MSL they don't go the SCF.

Yandle helped them last year and this year. But failed to live up to Tanner's hype

Hagelin is a byproduct of depth and stupid luck. Look what he did in Anaheim. With the Ducks Hags got a few games with Getzlaf and Perry and stunk.

Cam Tablot byproduct of a superior team.

- tomburton99


Dan Boyle and Eric Staal moves were the worst.

Both did nothing for the team.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
Would you rather live life without your left hand or your right hand. That's basically what you just asked. Both options are terrible.
- tomburton99

This is why you gotta learn to use be a switch hitter?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 18 @ 3:35 PM ET
Hindsight is a...


- MidnightMarauder


I said it at the time. Just didn't see it this year with this team. Thought the Staal trade was just throwing away a prospect and 2 2nds for absolutely nothing.

I think sometimes perception goes into these trades too. If the Rangers didn't try for Staal and another eastern conference team got him, Rangers fans would have been female doging and moaning up a storm.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 3:35 PM ET
This is why you gotta learn to use be a switch hitter?
- TPC

No, I ment both Dan Boyle and Eric Staal stunk. I just had to endure Dan Boyle for way longer. Thank goodness that's over.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 18 @ 3:35 PM ET
Boyle was a FA signing...so remove that one.

Cally hurts, but he is overpaid now.

Yandle lost us Duke and he sucked on D...his played position. Y helped in some areas, but then hurt in others.

Talbot...he was a backup, after all and was never replacing Hank. Hoped for more, but return was ok.

Hags...lost and got nothing. Is he overpaid? If on the Rangers, probably; though speed cannot be taught...and he has tons of it. Playoff performer, too.

E Staal...just pretending it never happened because it played out that way.

My vote is the Hags deal.

- mames11

You can't grade the Hags deal til you see what becomes of Jensen and Ryan Gropp
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 18 @ 3:35 PM ET
Boyle was a FA signing...so remove that one.

Cally hurts, but he is overpaid now.

Yandle lost us Duke and he sucked on D...his played position. Y helped in some areas, but then hurt in others.

Talbot...he was a backup, after all and was never replacing Hank. Hoped for more, but return was ok.

Hags...lost and got nothing. Is he overpaid? If on the Rangers, probably; though speed cannot be taught...and he has tons of it. Playoff performer, too.

E Staal...just pretending it never happened because it played out that way.

My vote is the Hags deal.

- mames11


You won't be saying that in another few years when Gropp is here and Hagelin is geting four million dollars a year to score 15 goals.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 3:35 PM ET
I said it at the time. Just didn't see it this year with this team. Thought the Staal trade was just throwing away a prospect and 2 2nds for absolutely nothing.

I think sometimes perception goes into these trades too. If the Rangers didn't try for Staal and another eastern conference team got him, Rangers fans would have been female doging and moaning up a storm.

- mdw7413

Probably.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
Would you rather live life without your left hand or your right hand. That's basically what you just asked. Both options are terrible.
- tomburton99

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
I said it at the time. Just didn't see it this year with this team. Thought the Staal trade was just throwing away a prospect and 2 2nds for absolutely nothing.

I think sometimes perception goes into these trades too. If the Rangers didn't try for Staal and another eastern conference team got him, Rangers fans would have been female doging and moaning up a storm.

- mdw7413

Remember, Gorton wanted them to give it the old college try this season...he though the players deserved one more run
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
Dan Boyle and Eric Staal moves were the worst.

Both did nothing for the team.

- MidnightMarauder

That's why I said tied for first.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

May 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
Would you rather live life without your left hand or your right hand. That's basically what you just asked. Both options are terrible.
- tomburton99

Left!
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
That's why I said tied for first.
- tomburton99

Boyle did a lot for me, I will miss the Dane Cook look alike
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
I said it at the time. Just didn't see it this year with this team. Thought the Staal trade was just throwing away a prospect and 2 2nds for absolutely nothing.

I think sometimes perception goes into these trades too. If the Rangers didn't try for Staal and another eastern conference team got him, Rangers fans would have been female doging and moaning up a storm.

- mdw7413



The Rangers are damned if they do and damned if they don't, always been the case.

Honestly, I like that they tried to fortify their team at the deadline and try for one last run. Unfortunately though, Pittsburgh just kept building momentum and the Rangers never solved their horrible inconsistency.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
Dan Boyle and Eric Staal moves were the worst.

Both did nothing for the team.

- MidnightMarauder



Boyle did score some goals...and is a D-man. Though he sucked in his own zone.

He also gave us a laugh by yelling at our good ol' Uncle Larry
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 3:38 PM ET
All this hindsight and lamenting about players x, y & z is why I want a full blown rebuild. Embrace the tank. Maybe get lucky like the Hawks, Penguins, Bolts; go from there.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 18 @ 3:38 PM ET
Remember, Gorton wanted them to give it the old college try this season...he though the players deserved one more run
- TPC




Thats was just dumb. "Yeah, don't see the team getting to far in the playoffs but going to throw some picks and a prospect in the garbage because these players deserve it."
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
Boyle did score some goals...and is a D-man. Though he sucked in his own zone.

He also gave us a laugh by yelling at our good ol' Uncle Larry

- mames11



Boyle symbolizes Stralman's replacement to many; it's not necessarily that black and white but in essence that's the image.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
All this hindsight and lamenting about players x, y & z is why I want a full blown rebuild. Embrace the tank. Maybe get lucky like the Hawks, Penguins, Bolts; go from there.
- tomburton99


Truthfully I really don't have an issue with any of the ones listed except the Staal one.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
You won't be saying that in another few years when Gropp is here and Hagelin is geting four million dollars a year to score 15 goals.
- MidnightMarauder



Ok...but listen to your logic.

If the Rangers window for winning is closing, then why would I want to wait a few years when we had a proven player who is probably the fasted skater in the league and can score. 15 goals @ $4M someone said...we have that at $7.5M in Nash.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
All this hindsight and lamenting about players x, y & z is why I want a full blown rebuild. Embrace the tank. Maybe get lucky like the Hawks, Penguins, Bolts; go from there.
- tomburton99

I did it 3 years with the Sixers and now I am reborn. Tanking isn't that bad
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

May 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
Boyle was a FA signing...so remove that one.

Cally hurts, but he is overpaid now.

Yandle lost us Duke and he sucked on D...his played position. Y helped in some areas, but then hurt in others.

Talbot...he was a backup, after all and was never replacing Hank. Hoped for more, but return was ok.

Hags...lost and got nothing. Is he overpaid? If on the Rangers, probably; though speed cannot be taught...and he has tons of it. Playoff performer, too.

E Staal...just pretending it never happened because it played out that way.

My vote is the Hags deal.

- mames11

imo he wasn't worth much more at the time, knowing what he demanded in $$
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 18 @ 3:41 PM ET


Thats was just dumb. "Yeah, don't see the team getting to far in the playoffs but going to throw some picks and a prospect in the garbage because these players deserve it."

- mdw7413



Second round picks can be recouped in trades and Saarela was the team's ninth rated prospect. Remember the Rangers are apparently 30th out of 30 in prospect quality.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 18 @ 3:41 PM ET
Boyle did a lot for me, I will miss the Dane Cook look alike
- TPC





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