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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 16 @ 11:07 PM ET
I was positive Rust was gonna (frank) up with the puck there. Can't believe I ever doubted him
- Victoro311


rust is a decent little player, but its funny how everything on that sequence was the exact opposite of what makes him useful.

usually its speed speed speed on net. create bounces. whirlwind his way into being annoying.

that was just great patience. and not the most challenging of passes, but it was perfect. right in the wheelhouse.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
rust is a decent little player, but its funny how everything on that sequence was the exact opposite of what makes him useful.

usually its speed speed speed on net. create bounces. whirlwind his way into being annoying.

that was just great patience. and not the most challenging of passes, but it was perfect. right in the wheelhouse.

- stayinthefnnet



Rust's biggest weakness is size, and finishing ability. Size can't do much about, and isn't a deathblow of course... I expect his shots for breakaways and prime chances to be heavily worked on over the summer.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
Welcome to the series Sid! I guess we have to give credit where credit is due to a Domer with the helper. That was needed. Hopefully that gets him rolling.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
Rust's biggest weakness is size, and finishing ability. Size can't do much about, and isn't a deathblow of course... I expect his shots for breakaways and prime chances to be heavily worked on over the summer.
- Guile


agreed. i dont think hell ever develop into a great scorer. but even when he isnt scoring, he has shown that he can do the little things to still be useful. was winning puck battles, beating out icings, keeping the puck in.

all the poop that sheary wasnt doing.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
Funny everyone jumps all over kunitz. i still cant help but wonder if the scores 2-1 with our number 1 in net.
- Grinder47

Murray had a bad game. I wouldn't be opposed to inserting fleury into this series. I think his quickness is more important against a team like Tampa
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
So does sunds come in for sheary next game?

Murray is still my starter
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

May 16 @ 11:10 PM ET
Murray had a bad game. I wouldn't be opposed to inserting fleury into this series. I think his quickness is more important against a team like Tampa
- sditulli



Incorrect all over the place
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
Murray had a bad game. I wouldn't be opposed to inserting fleury into this series. I think his quickness is more important against a team like Tampa
- sditulli

Flower makes big saves bc he is out of position and has to stretch back to make it...

If it's me.. I'm trading DP for drouin lol
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
agreed. i dont think hell ever develop into a great scorer. but even when he isnt scoring, he has shown that he can do the little things to still be useful. was winning puck battles, beating out icings, keeping the puck in.

all the poop that sheary wasnt doing.

- stayinthefnnet



Don't need every prospect to become elite... just solid. Another Hagelin in Rust is more than enough next year.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

May 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
Quick and painless.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

May 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
rust with great patience. hes typically shoot shoot shoot. that was great.

(frank) yeah. even the first shift they had out there.

crosby had a great game with lots of little things. not to pile on the guy, but getting rid of sheary was all the difference.

- stayinthefnnet



Speaking of Sheary, did he play at all in the third?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
Flower makes big saves bc he is out of position and has to stretch back to make it...

If it's me.. I'm trading DP for drouin lol

- nh4442



If I'm their GM... I laugh at that offer
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 16 @ 11:12 PM ET
Welcome to the series Sid! I guess we have to give credit where credit is due to a Domer with the helper. That was needed. Hopefully that gets him rolling.
- Oneonta Penguin

that could be huge for him mentally.

that drouin goal made me absolutely sick, but overall, the team really had some good moments.

the HBK line just is what it is at this point. my whipping boy fehr had some very, very good moments.

dominated possession for a while, had a lot of ones where they simply couldnt cash in, but vashlievsky played ridiculously well too.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 16 @ 11:13 PM ET
Speaking of Sheary, did he play at all in the third?
- stackthepads

not a lick.

regardless of how this season ends. i'm very, very sold on sullivan.

Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

May 16 @ 11:13 PM ET
Speaking of Sheary, did he play at all in the third?
- stackthepads


Never saw the ice.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

May 16 @ 11:15 PM ET
not a lick.

regardless of how this season ends. i'm very, very sold on sullivan.

- stayinthefnnet


Ditto.

Interesting thought about replacing Sheary with Sundqvist. Sheary may need to see a few games from upstairs at the moment.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 16 @ 11:16 PM ET
Is Rust actually small? I see him list 5'11 190 lbs. that is pretty much the same listed measurements of crosby and hornqvist
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 16 @ 11:16 PM ET
rust with great patience. hes typically shoot shoot shoot. that was great.

(frank) yeah. even the first shift they had out there.

crosby had a great game with lots of little things. not to pile on the guy, but getting rid of sheary was all the difference.

- stayinthefnnet

Crosby came alive sometime in the second. Wasn't having a good game up until that point but then broke out.

Malkin went through the whole emotional spectrum tonight. Seemed completely frustrated and ineffective some shifts and completely determined and dominant other shifts. I think with our current mix of forwards, Sully is going to have to continue shuffling lines like he did this game so that our star players take shifts with the linemates they need since HBK obviously needs to keep getting a lot of shifts together. I know it's not ideal but I was a huge fan of the shuffling. It's what we needed this game. Bylsma would have never made any of those changes
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 16 @ 11:17 PM ET
Don't need every prospect to become elite... just solid. Another Hagelin in Rust is more than enough next year.
- Guile


definitely. they just need to be able to contribute in ways even when they arent scoring.

even kuhnackle, the guy i thought the least of originally, is finding ways to do that on the fourth line. not lighting the world on fire, and granted its an easier job than being told to be on the first line, but he can keep up with cullen and fehr and help them win boardplay and get the puck out.

rust does his little things. i dont quite think he is hagelin, but in that vein. sheary, i just dont know. i realize the NYR series will be the high water mark of his career, but damn. i was willing to give him a mulligan for the washington series. but the spots are there for him right now and he is just murdering momentum.

and i dont think its an effort thing. the guy is trying. he's just out of his league right now.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

May 16 @ 11:18 PM ET
Ditto.

Interesting thought about replacing Sheary with Sundqvist. Sheary may need to see a few games from upstairs at the moment.

- Thunderbolt



He's not an NHL calibre top 6, his upside is being negated out there by a very fast team, nothing he can really do. Unfortunately there isnt really anyone to take his place on Sids line, Sundqvist isn't going to cut it either.


Although Sid getting that monkey off his back is huge.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 16 @ 11:18 PM ET
Is Rust actually small? I see him list 5'11 190 lbs. that is pretty much the same listed measurements of crosby and hornqvist
- sditulli

I've seen him in person. He's not bulky like Sid but he's also not undersized like Sheary or Wilson. He's on the low end of average size for an NHL forward.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 16 @ 11:18 PM ET
Crosby came alive sometime in the second. Wasn't having a good game up until that point but then broke out.

Malkin went through the whole emotional spectrum tonight. Seemed completely frustrated and ineffective some shifts and completely determined and dominant other shifts. I think with our current mix of forwards, Sully is going to have to continue shuffling lines like he did this game so that our star players take shifts with the linemates they need since HBK obviously needs to keep getting a lot of shifts together. I know it's not ideal but I was a huge fan of the shuffling. It's what we needed this game. Bylsma would have never made any of those changes

- Victoro311


I think Crosby really came alive when he was reunited with Kunitz with Hornqvist.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 16 @ 11:19 PM ET
Rust Sid horn
Kuni geno Bennett
Hbk
Kuhn Cullen fehr

Same D as tonight.. Or replace lovejoy with DP..
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 16 @ 11:19 PM ET
definitely. they just need to be able to contribute in ways even when they arent scoring.

even kuhnackle, the guy i thought the least of originally, is finding ways to do that on the fourth line. not lighting the world on fire, and granted its an easier job than being told to be on the first line, but he can keep up with cullen and fehr and help them win boardplay and get the puck out.

rust does his little things. i dont quite think he is hagelin, but in that vein. sheary, i just dont know. i realize the NYR series will be the high water mark of his career, but damn. i was willing to give him a mulligan for the washington series. but the spots are there for him right now and he is just murdering momentum.

and i dont think its an effort thing. the guy is trying. he's just out of his league right now.

- stayinthefnnet



Sheary could still become something... but maybe he is just getting gassed now with these higher minutes. Yeah, he got those minutes in WBS, but its a damn harder and rougher game up here.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 16 @ 11:19 PM ET
Crosby came alive sometime in the second. Wasn't having a good game up until that point but then broke out.

Malkin went through the whole emotional spectrum tonight. Seemed completely frustrated and ineffective some shifts and completely determined and dominant other shifts. I think with our current mix of forwards, Sully is going to have to continue shuffling lines like he did this game so that our star players take shifts with the linemates they need since HBK obviously needs to keep getting a lot of shifts together. I know it's not ideal but I was a huge fan of the shuffling. It's what we needed this game. Bylsma would have never made any of those changes

- Victoro311

yeah you could see the full spectrum on malkin for sure. he wears it both on his face and in the way he handles the puck.

and yeah. crosby became so much more engaged. the guy still has 3 or 4 great passes every game. but he started throwing the body. looking to shoot. and really generating a cycle in the second half.
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