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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 15 @ 8:04 PM ET
Thanks carol

- Zogg[]
Excellent work as always.

For lefty, zog, Vantel etc...

Sign Stamkos for 11 x 7, Ericson or lucic 5 x 3
Trade Horvat for Drouin
Send burrows and Higgins to the minors or trade them
Trade edler for a mid first?
Resign hamhuis for 3 x 3

Drouin Stamkos lucic
Sedin Sedin Hanson
Bart Sutter virtanen
Etem granLund dorsett
Rodin

Hamhuis Tanev
Hutton tryamkin
Peden Larson
Biega

Dissect ad nauseum

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I can't say I'm a big fan of Lucic - I think he probably has a couple of decent years before a significant decline but he will want much better term and money than you indicate, so I would have to pass. That said, I wouldn't mind taking a look at Erikson, primarily to play with the Sedins (based on their past chemistry Internationally).

I"m also a big fan of Horvat (despite the pedigree of Drouin) who is going to take over the team at some point with his leadership skills and added maturity/experience when the time comes.

Higgins and Burrows will be a tough one to navigate, especially Burrows, who was and remains a fan favourite and still has some serviceability (although at some point I understand the need to move on - perhaps a buy-out at the end of next season?).

And I note you haven't included McCann in the line-up? Oversight or are you penciling him in for the AHL? or part of a Stamkos package? ( I know we are talking top of the line player but the term and money are worrisome - fortunately he's still quite young so the risk is probably worth it in the end, though).

I think keeping both Edler and Hamhuis is the way to go - we are simply too thin on defense to allow the luxury of moving either one of these players. Let's hope that Edler's over his injury woes and finally has a healthy season (yes, anyone have any magic beans? perhaps mushrooms then? )

Thus, overall, some interesting possibilities but I'd have to say, for the most part, I wouldn't make any of these moves


Very well articulated Zogg, I'm still in amazement that Lucic is a desirable piece for this team, what Lefty sees in him is strange...undisciplined, has anger control issues, and I can list a whole list of concerns that I have. If LA wants to resign please JB for the sake of the canucks let them.

Tell you what I'd rather Marchand over Lucic any day, and that's saying something about my thoughts on Lucic
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 15 @ 8:06 PM ET
As much as id like Stamkos, I hope Benning is talking with Sakic about trading for Barrie, other than the size hes what this team needs.

5th OA+Sbisa+McCann for 10th and Barrie
Sign Demers 4x5 mill
Sign Erikson 3x 6.5
Sign Gaustad 2 x 2
trade Miller and Higgins to NYI for Anders Lee and Halak (cap balances out but halak is on term for an extra year so can give Demko more time)

Sedin-Sedin-Sutter
Bae-Horvat-Erikson
Etem-Granlund-Hansen
Lee- Gaustad-Dorsett
Edler-Barrie
Hutton-Tanev
Tryamkin-Demers
Halak/Markstrom split duties
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 15 @ 8:07 PM ET
Very well articulated Zogg, I'm still in amazement that Lucic is a desirable piece for this team, what Lefty sees in him is strange...undisciplined, has anger control issues, and I can list a whole list of concerns that I have. If LA wants to resign please JB for the sake of the canucks let them.

Tell you what I'd rather Marchand over Lucic any day, and that's saying something about my thoughts on Lucic

- Makita


That's a bit harsh on Lefty... perhaps he just needs a new hobby in retirement...
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 15 @ 8:08 PM ET
As much as id like Stamkos, I hope Benning is talking with Sakic about trading for Barrie, other than the size hes what this team needs, and with a turn around Defense this team could be contenders quicker then not.

5th OA+Sbisa+McCann for 10th and Barrie
Sign Demers 4x5 mill
Sign Erikson 3x 6.5
Sign Gaustad 2 x 2
trade Miller and Higgins to NYI for Anders Lee and Halak (cap balances out but halak is on term for an extra year so can give Demko more time)

Sedin-Sedin-Sutter
Bae-Horvat-Erikson
Etem-Granlund-Hansen
Lee- Gaustad-Dorsett
Edler-Barrie
Hutton-Tanev
Tryamkin-Demers
Halak/Markstrom split duties

- phyllee


Not enough IMO. If Barrie is actually available, there's gonna be 20+ teams bidding on him. The price is gonna get very high, very fast...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 15 @ 8:13 PM ET
Ummm...no?
- Jeropotato

Then why ask the question? just join in with the fun.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 15 @ 8:17 PM ET
That's a bit harsh on Lefty... perhaps he just needs a new hobby in retirement...
- lumlums


The guy just has too much time on his hands...people are constantly telling him to have a snickers....

I'm not a fan of that style of player(lucic not Lefty, ), go ahead and make an offer to Stamkos, don't think he would ever chose Vancouver over other teams...but Lucic would set this team back...IMO
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 15 @ 8:20 PM ET
Not enough IMO. If Barrie is actually available, there's gonna be 20+ teams bidding on him. The price is gonna get very high, very fast...
- lumlums


Add Columbus 2nd aswell
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 15 @ 8:25 PM ET
The guy just has too much time on his hands...people are constantly telling him to have a snickers....

I'm not a fan of that style of player(lucic not Lefty, ), go ahead and make an offer to Stamkos, don't think he would ever chose Vancouver over other teams...but Lucic would set this team back...IMO

- Makita


I'm with you on Lucic... he's got the raw tools, but his game is gonna start taking a bigger toll on him in the future than now, and he's showed multiple times to not have the calm head to prevail in testing times...


As for Stammer, I agree... Vancouver is an awesome city to be in, but if he's leaving a contender in Tampa it's for either another top contender, or his hometown team (if not for the latter TO wouldn't have a sniff of him - as it stands there's about a 0.1% chance IMO).
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 15 @ 8:29 PM ET
Add Columbus 2nd aswell
- phyllee


Still gotta be more. He's shown himself capable of first line minutes, and he's a very in demand righty. The closest comparison I can think of is Rafalski (almost identical size, game) and he's already got close in points (53 vs 59) to Rafalski's best year despite being 2 years younger than when Rafalski made his debut.

Sadly more middle prospects/picks isn't gonna cut it; it would take your first this year plus plus, without the 10th coming back. This is why as much as I'd love him, I don't think TO would have a shot: There's no way they'll move the 1OA, and there's almost nothing that they could/would package with the Pitts 1st that would make Colorado flinch...
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 8:29 PM ET
At least we're talking about something other than the 5th overall pick
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 15 @ 8:30 PM ET
At least we're talking about something other than the 5th overall pick
- LeftCoaster

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 8:52 PM ET
Backes and Pavelski still gettin it done for their teams.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 15 @ 8:52 PM ET
With the uncertain direction your team is going in, what actually makes you think you'll attract the top UFA's ?
- Jeropotato


Strong beer, weed and whiskey!!!!
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 15 @ 8:55 PM ET
At least we're talking about something other than the 5th overall pick
- LeftCoaster

OK...so we're at round 3 of PO's. Who's you fav from these 4? Or who do you think will win?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:00 PM ET
OK...so we're at round 3 of PO's. Who's you fav from these 4? Or who do you think will win?
- SMBDragon

San Jose vs Tampa final....teams so close I have no idea who'd win. But I'm hoping for San Jose, I guess.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 15 @ 9:07 PM ET
San Jose vs Tampa final....teams so close I have no idea who'd win. But I'm hoping for San Jose, I guess.
- LeftCoaster


St. Louis beats Pittsburg. It is known.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:17 PM ET
St. Louis beats Pittsburg. It is known.
- CubanBuffet

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:20 PM ET
Just saw on Twitter that Bautista received a nice haymaker lol...(frank)in Blue Jays are a bunch of female doges. I'm starting a hate on them too, along with the Leafs and whatever their BBall team is called.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 15 @ 9:32 PM ET
As much as id like Stamkos, I hope Benning is talking with Sakic about trading for Barrie, other than the size hes what this team needs.

5th OA+Sbisa+McCann for 10th and Barrie
Sign Demers 4x5 mill
Sign Erikson 3x 6.5
Sign Gaustad 2 x 2
trade Miller and Higgins to NYI for Anders Lee and Halak (cap balances out but halak is on term for an extra year so can give Demko more time)

Sedin-Sedin-Sutter
Bae-Horvat-Erikson
Etem-Granlund-Hansen
Lee- Gaustad-Dorsett
Edler-Barrie
Hutton-Tanev
Tryamkin-Demers
Halak/Markstrom split duties

- phyllee


Ummm that aint happening. Snow couldn't hang up fast enough.

Enough of this, I'm going to get some chicken.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 9:34 PM ET
When did the Sharks sign Luongo?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 15 @ 9:35 PM ET
When did the Sharks sign Luongo?
- VANTEL


Today I think. But he's backing up Cloutier tonight.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 15 @ 9:58 PM ET
Just saw on Twitter that Bautista received a nice haymaker lol...(frank)in Blue Jays are a bunch of female doges. I'm starting a hate on them too, along with the Leafs and whatever their BBall team is called.
- LeftCoaster


Pronmans full top 100 prospects list...also, there is link for Lefty included (Bautista getting drilled).

http://abcnews.go.com/Spo...l-draft/story?id=39091742
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 15 @ 10:09 PM ET
Bo is the next Captain. We will get back to the dance with Bo in control.
- LordHumungous


Gillis pick, check the....
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

May 15 @ 10:09 PM ET
Pronmans full top 100 prospects list...also, there is link for Lefty included (Bautista getting drilled).

http://abcnews.go.com/Spo...l-draft/story?id=39091742

- CanuckDon

Looks to me like Bautista deserved that shot - not so much for the bat toss but he came in cleats up on that slide like he was trying to injure Odour.

Edit - OK maybe not cleats up but he definitely slid late and when through the base.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 15 @ 10:23 PM ET
Looks to me like Bautista deserved that shot - not so much for the bat toss but he came in cleats up on that slide like he was trying to injure Odour.

Edit - OK maybe not cleats up but he definitely slid late and when through the base.

- docmorgan


Punch first...always
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