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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 14 @ 9:15 PM ET
You would love my philosophy. I'm all about drafting a developing.
- PhillySportsGuy


You stole that from me
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 9:17 PM ET
I feel like they could trade down for Rubtsov too. The Russian doping scandal and his Russian contract may scare some teams from him. I believe he has a 3 year deal with his Russian club.
- PhillySportsGuy


They all have those contracts. I don't really see an issue with it. He will come over when he is developed at 21 like a Kuzy. I think those fears of Russians are gone. As for his doping scandal, given that Team Russia doped up all their players and the drug was legal until January and it is believed to take months to leave the system...I think the only issue is he didn't show his stuff at the U18s.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 14 @ 9:19 PM ET
You stole that from me
- ob18


I'm all about that Drafting. Thats why Hinkie will always be my boy
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 9:23 PM ET
I'm all about that Drafting. Thats why Hinkie will always be my boy
- PhillySportsGuy


You can't just keep trading superstars like MCW and getting picks though. Eventually you need to assemble a team and use those picks. Hinkie had some weird psychosis where he had to just hoard picks. Wouldn't shock me to see him in rehab now and his "resignation" just a convenient cover.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

May 14 @ 9:23 PM ET
They all have those contracts. I don't really see an issue with it. He will come over when he is developed at 21 like a Kuzy. I think those fears of Russians are gone. As for his doping scandal, given that Team Russia doped up all their players and the drug was legal until January and it is believed to take months to leave the system...I think the only issue is he didn't show his stuff at the U18s.
- Mononoke


I don't have concerns about him. I just think there are GMs who would rather draft a guy who has the potential to come play within the next 1-2 years like Kunin.

Building a strong hockey team isn't rocket science if your ownership is willing to be patient.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 14 @ 9:24 PM ET
Giroux and Ghost to have the same surgery? Is this just news to me?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 14 @ 9:25 PM ET
You can't just keep trading superstars like MCW and getting picks though. Eventually you need to assemble a team and use those picks. Hinkie had some weird psychosis where he had to just hoard picks. Wouldn't shock me to see him in rehab now and his "resignation" just a convenient cover.
- Mononoke


If there was one person I could have dinner with, it would be Hinkie
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 9:25 PM ET
Giroux and Ghost to have the same surgery? Is this just news to me?
- YuenglingJagr


OMG. Please just leave.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 14 @ 9:25 PM ET
Giroux and Ghost to have the same surgery? Is this just news to me?
- YuenglingJagr


Attached at the hip, you'd say?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 9:27 PM ET
I don't have concerns about him. I just think there are GMs who would rather draft a guy who has the potential to come play within the next 1-2 years like Kunin.

Building a strong hockey team isn't rocket science if your ownership is willing to be patient.

- PhillySportsGuy


Kunin is a name floated for us. Idk what to think of him. Another I haven't seen. Supposedly he is probably more of a winger. He's a real heart and soul, meat and potatoes guy with a great shot. Not sure he's a high ceiling player, but I've never seen him.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

May 14 @ 9:28 PM ET
Kunin is a name floated for us. Idk what to think of him. Another I haven't seen. Supposedly he is probably more of a winger. He's a real heart and soul, meat and potatoes guy with a great shot. Not sure he's a high ceiling player, but I've never seen him.
- Mononoke


The next Mike Richards!
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 9:32 PM ET
If there was one person I could have dinner with, it would be Hinkie
- PhillySportsGuy


Would you have him sign your laminated copy of his resignation letter?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 9:33 PM ET
The next Mike Richards!
- PhillySportsGuy


Would you trade former next Mic Richards, Scoot Laughton + 18 to get to 10? Maybe add a 3rd?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

May 14 @ 9:36 PM ET
Would you have him sign your laminated copy of his resignation letter?
- Mononoke


YES!

Guarantee he counts calories down to 2 decimal places and perfectly proportions his food portions so nothing touches unless it is supposed to.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 14 @ 9:37 PM ET
Would you trade former next Mic Richards, Scoot Laughton + 18 to get to 10? Maybe add a 3rd?
- Mononoke


I think I would
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 9:38 PM ET
I think I would
- PhillySportsGuy


I would. Colorado would so demand Morin + 18 though.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

May 14 @ 9:39 PM ET
I would. Colorado would so demand Morin + 18 though.
- Mononoke


No thanks on that one. I'd probably trade Morin straight up for #10
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 9:43 PM ET
No thanks on that one. I'd probably trade Morin straight up for #10
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah I wouldn't do the first one. Morin straight up? If it was for Keller...yeah. But Hamilton only got a #15 or something. It is unlikely. I'd love if Laughton and our first could be a center piece. But I'm not sure he is viewed highly enough.
TheGhost_isBare
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bridgeport, CT
Joined: 03.24.2015

May 14 @ 9:55 PM ET
My man. Those are probably my top 4 favorite forwards we could draft/trade up for.

Here's a name I've been hearing a lot of good buzz about as a late first/early second riser: Jonathan Dahlen. If we can't trade up and consider trading down, he might be a name.

- Mononoke


I love Dahlen. He's absurdly skilled, and is a smaller guy that goes hard to the paint. I hope Hexy is all over this guy.
TheGhost_isBare
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bridgeport, CT
Joined: 03.24.2015

May 14 @ 10:00 PM ET
The next Mike Richards!
- PhillySportsGuy


Whenever I watch him that's the guy he reminds me of. I know its a bit of a cliche, but they're about the same size, and Kunin is chippy, skates hard, and has a surprising amount of skill. Kunin might have better speed though.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 10:03 PM ET
I love Dahlen. He's absurdly skilled, and is a smaller guy that goes hard to the paint. I hope Hexy is all over this guy.
- TheGhost_isBare


All of us who watch Tampa and see guys like Kucherov and Johnson just demolishing teams with finesse and speed and say, "I want"....Dahlen could be an answer. Trading back or probably up with the 2nds for him sounds amazing to me.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 14 @ 10:07 PM ET
Whenever I watch him that's the guy he reminds me of. I know its a bit of a cliche, but they're about the same size, and Kunin is chippy, skates hard, and has a surprising amount of skill. Kunin might have better speed though.
- TheGhost_isBare


What is his ceiling though? Do you see a high floor, middle ceiling guy...maybe a 20/25-20 all around guy?

Also, I know you love McAvoy. Different report I read sound all over the place on him, though he is good offensively. The negative ones seem to harp on defense and even hockey sense...I just don't know where to place him with the guys I've seen. Why are you so enamored?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

May 14 @ 10:22 PM ET
2 of my biggest pet peeves in baseball:

1) Putting in the closer in a non-save situation
2) Using a non-closer in a save situation unless your closer is absolutely burned out

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 14 @ 10:24 PM ET
2 of my biggest pet peeves in baseball:

1) Putting in the closer in a non-save situation
2) Using a non-closer in a save situation unless your closer is absolutely burned out


- Giroux_Is_God


Hernandez got this
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

May 14 @ 10:24 PM ET
Hernandez got this
- PhillySportsGuy


Maybe not
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