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Seanook
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston city limits, ON
Joined: 06.13.2012

May 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
Alas, poor Honest Hockey.

I knew him well.

- Atomic Wedgie

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
Said in pretentious old world English accent "we would be remiss no not..... Slings and arrows ..... Blah blah blah"


- Seanook



"Duh... how 'boot dem Leafs, eh?"



Sound better?
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 14 @ 1:54 PM ET
You do have a point. I thought Lidstrom was bigger he certainly played bigger. In any event were originally discussing Barrie who is 5'10". Can you think of a contender in the NHL that has a 5'10" defender in their top pair?

A few years back Ottawa had to make a choice between two defensenen, one bigger (chara) and one smaller skill guy (redden) how did that work out for the sens or rangers

- winsix


Lidstrom was strong and was rarely caught out of position. That and his skating are why he seemed to be bigger and was able to cover more area. Hockey IQ through the roof.
Seanook
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston city limits, ON
Joined: 06.13.2012

May 14 @ 1:54 PM ET


"Duh... how 'boot dem Leafs, eh?"


Sound better?

- lumlums


Much gooder der eh
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
You do have a point. I thought Lidstrom was bigger he certainly played bigger. In any event were originally discussing Barrie who is 5'10". Can you think of a contender in the NHL that has a 5'10" defender in their top pair?

A few years back Ottawa had to make a choice between two defensenen, one bigger (chara) and one smaller skill guy (redden) how did that work out for the sens or rangers

- winsix


Stralman is 5'11 180. An inch taller but 10lbs lighter
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
Much gooder der eh

- Seanook


YES B'Y!!!!
Seanook
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston city limits, ON
Joined: 06.13.2012

May 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
Lidstrom was strong and was rarely caught out of position. That and his skating are why he seemed to be bigger and was able to cover more area. Hockey IQ through the roof.
- Phenom


Maybe the smartest Dman who ever played. Once the Yzermans, Shanny's and Fedorov's were gone it was apparent that Lidstrom was the straw that stirred the drink.
Seanook
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston city limits, ON
Joined: 06.13.2012

May 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
Stralman is 5'11 180. An inch taller but 10lbs lighter
- lumlums


Ray Bourque was only 5'11". 200 plus lbs but....
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
You do have a point. I thought Lidstrom was bigger he certainly played bigger. In any event were originally discussing Barrie who is 5'10". Can you think of a contender in the NHL that has a 5'10" defender in their top pair?

A few years back Ottawa had to make a choice between two defensenen, one bigger (chara) and one smaller skill guy (redden) how did that work out for the sens or rangers

- winsix



Anaheim - Vatanen (5'10")
Pittsburgh - Letang (6'0")
Tampa - Stralman (5'11")
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 14 @ 2:05 PM ET
Maybe the smartest Dman who ever played. Once the Yzermans, Shanny's and Fedorov's were gone it was apparent that Lidstrom was the straw that stirred the drink.
- Seanook


Agree, top players are generally smart, skill did not help Iafrate much. Kariya was smart but career got cut short by a Gary Suter cheap shot.
Seanook
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston city limits, ON
Joined: 06.13.2012

May 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
Agree, top players are generally smart, skill did not help Iafrate much. Kariya was smart but career got cut short by a Gary Suter cheap shot.
- winsix




Not a defenceman but....... Dougie
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 14 @ 2:07 PM ET
Ray Bourque was only 5'11". 200 plus lbs but....
- Seanook



Different era
Seanook
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston city limits, ON
Joined: 06.13.2012

May 14 @ 2:09 PM ET
Different era
- winsix



He'd murder this era
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 14 @ 2:09 PM ET
Agree, top players are generally smart, skill did not help Iafrate much. Kariya was smart but career got cut short by a Gary Suter cheap shot.
- winsix


The original Gardiner.
Seanook
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston city limits, ON
Joined: 06.13.2012

May 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
The original Gardiner.
- Phenom



Gards wishes he had a skullet that glorious
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 14 @ 2:16 PM ET
Anaheim - Vatanen (5'10")
Pittsburgh - Letang (6'0")
Tampa - Stralman (5'11")

- Steven_Seagull


Vatanen top pair? Even if true, not including Leafs or colorado how many 5'10" or shorter of 28 teams in top pair?
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 14 @ 2:18 PM ET
Gards wishes he had a skullet that glorious
- Seanook


Nobody ever looked as graceful sliding along the bench and slamming back-first into a stanchion.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 14 @ 2:20 PM ET
Vatanen top pair? Even if true, not including Leafs or colorado how many 5'10" or shorter of 28 teams in top pair?
- winsix

23-26 minute a night Jared Spurgeon is a whopping 5'9 (and extremely underrated) just as one example

Also, PPP did a feature a few years ago where they took all the players in the league to find a "typical" player... the average Defenseman was 6'2 and 210lbs. So if we treat this as the average, you then start to include players like Karlsson, Subban, Klingberg, Josi, Brodie, Gostisbhere who are below average in one or both of these categories. Hell, at 6'1 195 even Drew Doughty is likely at least one standard deviation below in the weight category.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 14 @ 2:21 PM ET


Not a defenceman but....... Dougie

- Seanook

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 14 @ 2:24 PM ET
23-26 minute a night Jared Spurgeon is a whopping 5'9 (and extremely underrated) just as one example
- lumlums



I don't understand what point this guy is trying to make. Bigger defensemen are automatically better?
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 14 @ 2:27 PM ET
[quote=winsix]

Loved dougie, really like Komarov, how did it feel when we lost to the bruins someone smashed one our best players into the boards or smashed his face like mcade and Kelly did and we retaliated by giving them a huggy poo
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
I don't understand what point this guy is trying to make. Bigger defensemen are automatically better?
- Steven_Seagull

Sometimes a bigger D can be a curse you know..
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 14 @ 2:42 PM ET
I don't understand what point this guy is trying to make. Bigger defensemen are automatically better?
- Steven_Seagull


hard to argue that all things being equal, size isn't an advantage.

for me, having mix of players including bigger players throughout the lineup is important to building a winner.

i think having a 1c or 2c (mathews) and a 1d or 2d (?) 6'2" or bigger is a pretty big advantage. otherwise, don't i don't care so much by position.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 14 @ 2:44 PM ET
I don't understand what point this guy is trying to make. Bigger defensemen are automatically better?
- Steven_Seagull



Not the point. Need skill. Need IQ. Need some grit. Need some size. Leafs have few big skill guys and could use a few.

Seanook
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston city limits, ON
Joined: 06.13.2012

May 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
Size was a huge factor when JVR was getting mugged by Marchand
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