Barrie as good as they come in offensive ability and moving the puck, but he does get a lighter work load however he has never had a good partner even with lesser competition. Get him a good partner and he should be able to handle tougher minutes.

Im so torn and hurt by these r umours....Barrie
- DDM-Coga

I guess I don't know much about being a gm, but it just doesn't make sense to move that kind of asset with a relatively young core already in place. Find a way to make the money work

Unless they're really not sold on the roster I guess

delete your account
- DDM-Coga

The theory I have, is that Barrie doesnt fit the mold that Roy and Sakic want for the roster (big and mobile) So if they are goign to pay 6.5m for a Dman its going to be for a Trouba like guy. I would not be shocked to see them try and flip those guys.

Trouba and the 22nd or B.Lemiuex for Barrie
- DDM-Coga

This makes sense then

Yeah for sure. I'm just trying to say I think Subban has the edge on Barrie as an overall player at this point.

But Subban at 9M or Barrie at 6.5M and I'll take Barrie any day.
- RonPielep

I would too but I really dont know what he is looking for.
This feels like a D. Hamilton situation all over again, rumorus of him askign for the moon, gets traded, then signs a reasonable long term deal

Exactly

It's not super pretty, but I think it could get the job done.
And with nurse/reinhart in the wings, and Davidson, you can turn that over pretty quickly if Furthur steps up standings are in order in a year or two

Just don't get stuck in anything long term for said top 4 plug in
- HB77

It doesn't have to be pretty if it's effective. It's at least better than Philidelphia's from this year.

I like Gudas cause he'll bring the snarl we want while not costing too much. He's also an RFA so term is under a bit more control. With the impending expansion draft, we can also expose one of those Dmen to open up a slot for Nurse to move into. We're not blocking him over the long term, simply giving him a year of seasoning to make sure he's bringing his best. It'd also help cover the need to expose 25% of your team's salary if we exposed a guy like Sekera or Gudas.

delete your account
- DDM-Coga

??? I don't know much about the Avs. Thats why I'm asking. Is Barrie way more valuable then Eberle? what am i missing here

I would be still be upset at that. Its a sign to the fans that Mgmt doesnt think the team is good enough to win now. Moves a step backwards and wastes more prime years of Duchene and Landeskog waiting on prospects to come up
- DDM-Coga

4th and Yak? Yak is in win-now mode.

??? I don't know much about the Avs. Thats why I'm asking. Is Barrie way more valuable then Eberle? what am i missing here
- Njuice

Barrie is more valuable than Ebs but more importantly the Avs would prob not be interested in moving Barrie to take on another fat contract.

??? I don't know much about the Avs. Thats why I'm asking. Is Barrie way more valuable then Eberle? what am i missing here
- Njuice

Young elite level puck moving Right Handed Dmen, which are rare in the NHL, yes barrie holds more value based on how scarce those type of guys are.

Done
- HB77

Pavelski for the Conn Smythe

Young elite level puck moving Right Handed Dmen, which are rare in the NHL, yes barrie holds more value based on how scarce those type of guys are.
- DDM-Coga

Thanks, I don't get to see many western team games that aren't in Canada or that don't get in playoffs often. Avs and Preds are probably the teams that I know almost nothing about. HockeyBuzz is great for that with bloggers from every team.

The theory I have, is that Barrie doesnt fit the mold that Roy and Sakic want for the roster (big and mobile) So if they are goign to pay 6.5m for a Dman its going to be for a Trouba like guy. I would not be shocked to see them try and flip those guys.

Trouba and the 22nd or B.Lemiuex for Barrie
- DDM-Coga

I don't see why Winnipeg does that deal, though. It'd either be a 1-for-1 (which I still don't see) or not at all. Realistically, what does Barrie bring that they're missing? He's a PP QB; they have Buff. He's a puck mover; as are Enstrom, Myers, and Buff. He's a RHD; they have Buff and Myers. He's an RFA; as Trouba is. He'll likely cost more than Trouba in contract which is the only reason I could see them moving Trouba.

I would too but I really dont know what he is looking for.
This feels like a D. Hamilton situation all over again, rumorus of him askign for the moon, gets traded, then signs a reasonable long term deal
- DDM-Coga

You'd better hope not

Could be the case tho if he has had it with Roy and is willing to be more reasonable on a different team (which might have been the case with Hamilton). Sometimes these guys price themselves out of town as leverage to be moved.

The Oil better not let this slip past them like the Hamilton deal...

I don't see why Winnipeg does that deal, though. It'd either be a 1-for-1 (which I still don't see) or not at all. Realistically, what does Barrie bring that they're missing? He's a PP QB; they have Buff. He's a puck mover; as are Enstrom, Myers, and Buff. He's a RHD; they have Buff and Myers. He's an RFA; as Trouba is. He'll likely cost more than Trouba in contract which is the only reason I could see them moving Trouba.
- MaximumBone

Well hell, I guess they'll just have to settle for the 4th then.
(and no I won't delete my account, I know Barrie would likely cost a bit more than the 4th)

You'd better hope not

Could be the case tho if he has had it with Roy and is willing to be more reasonable on a different team (which might have been the case with Hamilton). Sometimes these guys price themselves out of town as leverage to be moved.

The Oil better not let this slip past them like the Hamilton deal...
- RonPielep

If the rumblings are true, they didn't "let it slip past them". They were passed on because Chiarelli was saying he'd offer sheet him. Despite Edmonton offering the better package, they went with Calgary to spite him.

If the rumblings are true, they didn't "let it slip past them". They were passed on because Chiarelli was saying he'd offer sheet him. Despite Edmonton offering the better package, they went with Calgary to spite him.
- MaximumBone

Yeah whatever it was, if the offer was sweet enough I doubt they would have passed it up just for spite but who knows.

If Chia is gonna be really busy this offseason, we could see Eberle, the 4th, and Yak moved for defense. You could also see him sign a winger from Free agency.

Chia is trying to make this a bigger, meaner, and grittier team. He has done that with Maroon, Kassian, and Gryba. Pouliot helps us with regards to Chia's vision.

Honestly, I'd be shocked if Eberle isn't moved by the end of this summer. As for Yak, it depends on the deal at hand.

I don't see why Winnipeg does that deal, though. It'd either be a 1-for-1 (which I still don't see) or not at all. Realistically, what does Barrie bring that they're missing? He's a PP QB; they have Buff. He's a puck mover; as are Enstrom, Myers, and Buff. He's a RHD; they have Buff and Myers. He's an RFA; as Trouba is. He'll likely cost more than Trouba in contract which is the only reason I could see them moving Trouba.
- MaximumBone

I'm sure there would be more to it but I think they would target trouba, they were really Interested in bogo before he was traded. Contract is the only thing that makes sense to me for both teams if they both are in places they Re happier to be in and sign for more reasonable deals, just my theory

Pavelski for the Conn Smythe
- RonPielep

A healthy bolts squad - kucherov/bishop

Otherwise; tarasenko

Young elite level puck moving Right Handed Dmen, which are rare in the NHL, yes barrie holds more value based on how scarce those type of guys are.
- DDM-Coga

Why is Barrie even on the market? Isn't he like your best defender? You guys also have Erik Johnson. The fact that you have two amazing defenders on the RIGHT side is something no team should EVER give up unless they have to.

Well hell, I guess they'll just have to settle for the 4th then.
(and no I won't delete my account, I know Barrie would likely cost a bit more than the 4th)
- Wildschwein

4th and Yak. Get Sakic on the phone. I'd rather have Johnson btw. He seems, imo, the better two way defender. Barrie is more offensively talented, but Johnson is the whole jumbo gumbo.

Edit: Plus Johnson is a right hand shot too.

I've been a yaks hater as much as anyone, but losing him and ebs concerns me
I realize it's still potential, but it's a huge blow to the high level offensive skill we envisioned that could just be too much to matchup with

But yes, it hasn't worked thus far. I guess it's just the homer in me worrying

I've been a yaks hater as much as anyone, but losing him and ebs concerns me
I realize it's still potential, but it's a huge blow to the high level offensive skill we envisioned that could just be too much to matchup with

But yes, it hasn't worked thus far. I guess it's just the homer in me worrying
- HB77

I certainly wouldn't deal Yak for a bag of pucks like some have suggested. But if he can be used to acquire what the team really needs in a solid first and second pairing RD than I would be okay with it.

Trading him for some poopty picks or some middling bottom pairing D man is not worth it at all imo.

I've been a yaks hater as much as anyone, but losing him and ebs concerns me
I realize it's still potential, but it's a huge blow to the high level offensive skill we envisioned that could just be too much to matchup with

But yes, it hasn't worked thus far. I guess it's just the homer in me worrying
- HB77

How many elite offensive teams have their forward corps built around more than 4 high paid players?

Benn, Seguin, Spezza, and Sharp
Stamkos, Johnson, Kucherov, and Palat
Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, and Hornqvist
Tarasenko, Stastny, Schwartz, and Backes
Thornton, Couture, Pavelski, and Marleau

The rest of the pieces producing (Eakins, Killorn, Drouin, Bonino, Hagelin, Fabbri, Brouwer, Hertl, and Donskoi) are complimentary players or prospects. Then they have strong offensive D producers.

McDavid, Hall, Leon, and Eberle/RNH

Why is Barrie even on the market? Isn't he like your best defender? You guys also have Erik Johnson. The fact that you have two amazing defenders on the RIGHT side is something no team should EVER give up unless they have to.
- EdmHockeyMan

Only thing I can think of is money, avs and his agents are to the point that it looks unlikely a contract can be hammered out so they will get something for him when he's in high demand prior to expansion draft