His "ghost" shows up on the board from time to time.
- smellmyfinger

Best "Alt" account ever. Even better than #Hashtag, or Grimlock.

Link to where Edmonton was ruled out 2 weeks after the report came out?

Oh wait, don't bother, here's one from January 30th from Friedman talking about the oilers and hamonic

http://edmontonjournal.co...rs-elliotte-friedman-says


We're not laughing with you. We're laughing at you
- HB77

I know this is out of context but the article is helpful. Its a question I pose and one I have been thinking about. If you ask for a trade and then rescind that offer does that mean the club will still keep you? Clubs for the most part do business for what is best for their team (yeah I am referring to Boston being Richards and trading to Calgary despite a better offer from the Oil).

When a player asks for a trade his value goes down. Especially closer to season start. Nail's value isn't high but now that teams know he wants to go it becomes a best offer thing rather than is it a good offer. Do teams get gun shy? Is he going to want out if the team has a poor year next year? Same for many like Drouin who were on the outs and now look to be a key cog in the team.

Plus if you make plans to not have them you need to think of who to replace them. Sometimes that is man hours. Scouting and maybe picking up the phone (before the deadline). Maybe they have their eyes on a certain pick or player that they need to trade him to get. Does a player saying that they are going to stay after all mean the club has to agree?

How far off is
Hall and the 4th for Trouba and the 2nd?

Best "Alt" account ever. Even better than #Hashtag, or Grimlock.
- leonkennedy

I know this is out of context but the article is helpful. Its a question I pose and one I have been thinking about. If you ask for a trade and then rescind that offer does that mean the club will still keep you? Clubs for the most part do business for what is best for their team (yeah I am referring to Boston being Richards and trading to Calgary despite a better offer from the Oil).

When a player asks for a trade his value goes down. Especially closer to season start. Nail's value isn't high but now that teams know he wants to go it becomes a best offer thing rather than is it a good offer. Do teams get gun shy? Is he going to want out if the team has a poor year next year? Same for many like Drouin who were on the outs and now look to be a key cog in the team.

Plus if you make plans to not have them you need to think of who to replace them. Sometimes that is man hours. Scouting and maybe picking up the phone (before the deadline). Maybe they have their eyes on a certain pick or player that they need to trade him to get. Does a player saying that they are going to stay after all mean the club has to agree?
- Hall Fan

It doesn't really matter what succession plans the Islanders have made.they Love Hamonic, love his contract, and never as of yet found his replacement, so they forget the whole thing and move on. They might be making some quantity for quality swaps up front to get a couple game breakers tho.

But no, just because Hamonic and Yak asked for trades doesn't mean the teams have to, and if the recind a trade request and the have no special clauses in their contract preventing a trade they can still be moved.

How far off is
Hall and the 4th for Trouba and the 2nd?
- sfrizz

Hall
Pick 4

Trouba
Pick 2
Pick 22

Hall
Pick 4

Trouba
Pick 2
Pick 22
- Jeropotato

Do you pull the trigger? I would like to see a better D coming back if Hall is being moved but I also think theres a big jump from Laine to Tkachuk

Hall
Pick 4

Trouba
Pick 2
Pick 22
- Jeropotato

Are we a bettet team next year? I think we certainly are in 3-5 years

Hall
Pick 4

Trouba
Pick 2
Pick 22
- Jeropotato

Delete your account

Do you pull the trigger? I would like to see a better D coming back if Hall is being moved but I also think theres a big jump from Laine to Tkachuk
- sfrizz

I don't know...I don't know enough about Trouba, to be honest . But if we're trading Hallsy Baby , let's talk about which of the following Defensemen can be shook loose from their respective teams.

Doughty
Keith
Subban
Karrlson
Carlson
Pietrangelo
Josi
McDonough
Burns
Hedman

Call me a Homer but if we're moving Hall, we should be getting one of these back , give or take a sweetener.

Now, if we were moving Nuge or Ebs....

Weber
Trouba
Rielly
Brodin
Ellis
Ekblad
Vlasic
Ghost

Delete your account
- DDM-Coga

I didn't say I would do it ,fat ass, but that's pretty fair value.


Delete your life.

I don't know...I don't know enough about Trouba, to be honest . But if we're trading Hallsy Baby , let's talk about which of the following Defensemen can be shook loose from their respective teams.

Doughty
Keith
Subban
Karrlson
Carlson
Pietrangelo
Josi
McDonough
Burns
Hedman

Call me a Homer but if we're moving Hall, we should be getting one of these back , give or take a sweetener.

Now, if we were moving Nuge or Ebs....

Weber
Trouba
Rielly
Brodin
Ellis
Ekblad
Vlasic
Ghost
- Jeropotato

I highly doubt any of the bolded are available. I agree if we're moving Hall we need an established D. I guess it depends on Laine, I doubt Winnipeg moves the pick anyway. Who knows, they would still get a solid player at 4. If Trouba is the D coming back that only leaves Nuge and Eberle to get another D. The forward group would be very young.

I highly doubt any of the bolded are available. I agree if we're moving Hall we need an established D. I guess it depends on Laine, I doubt Winnipeg moves the pick anyway. Who knows, they would still get a solid player at 4. If Trouba is the D coming back that only leaves Nuge and Eberle to get another D. The forward group would be very young.
- sfrizz

Laine is good but I don't know if he will ever be Hall good. He is good but most prospecting sites criticize his skating ability. Hall is leading the WC in scoring right now. Yeah Canada is a better team but Laine is getting tons of ice time and is their top PP line. Hall and McDavid are being moved through as they can play any role. I like Trouba and Laine but Take the 4 the pick in Tckachuk and trade for a UFA's rights. You don't give up your best player since his draft because you have a center that will be better. Besides, Win is not going to do this deal. The team needs to pick high for the fans. It is worth a lot to them as a franchise.

Laine is good but I don't know if he will ever be Hall good. He is good but most prospecting sites criticize his skating ability. Hall is leading the WC in scoring right now. Yeah Canada is a better team but Laine is getting tons of ice time and is their top PP line. Hall and McDavid are being moved through as they can play any role. I like Trouba and Laine but Take the 4 the pick in Tckachuk and trade for a UFA's rights. You don't give up your best player since his draft because you have a center that will be better. Besides, Win is not going to do this deal. The team needs to pick high for the fans. It is worth a lot to them as a franchise.
- Hall Fan

Well no poop Hall/laine. He's only been 6 years older and been playing in the NHL.

I know this is out of context but the article is helpful. Its a question I pose and one I have been thinking about. If you ask for a trade and then rescind that offer does that mean the club will still keep you? Clubs for the most part do business for what is best for their team (yeah I am referring to Boston being Richards and trading to Calgary despite a better offer from the Oil).

When a player asks for a trade his value goes down. Especially closer to season start. Nail's value isn't high but now that teams know he wants to go it becomes a best offer thing rather than is it a good offer. Do teams get gun shy? Is he going to want out if the team has a poor year next year? Same for many like Drouin who were on the outs and now look to be a key cog in the team.

Plus if you make plans to not have them you need to think of who to replace them. Sometimes that is man hours. Scouting and maybe picking up the phone (before the deadline). Maybe they have their eyes on a certain pick or player that they need to trade him to get. Does a player saying that they are going to stay after all mean the club has to agree?
- Hall Fan

Dear lord...

I know this is out of context but the article is helpful. Its a question I pose and one I have been thinking about. If you ask for a trade and then rescind that offer does that mean the club will still keep you? Clubs for the most part do business for what is best for their team (yeah I am referring to Boston being Richards and trading to Calgary despite a better offer from the Oil).

When a player asks for a trade his value goes down. Especially closer to season start. Nail's value isn't high but now that teams know he wants to go it becomes a best offer thing rather than is it a good offer. Do teams get gun shy? Is he going to want out if the team has a poor year next year? Same for many like Drouin who were on the outs and now look to be a key cog in the team.

Plus if you make plans to not have them you need to think of who to replace them. Sometimes that is man hours. Scouting and maybe picking up the phone (before the deadline). Maybe they have their eyes on a certain pick or player that they need to trade him to get. Does a player saying that they are going to stay after all mean the club has to agree?
- Hall Fan

Can't really generalize. Every situation is different. In hamonics case it's absolutely in their best interest to keep him. They never wanted to deal him in the first place or it'd already be done. Just not sure I understand the question. Why couldn't they keep him? What is it you're trying to say here?

Again, it was really anything BUT a demand or a dik move. He had no part in leaking it. Nor was it for selfish reasons. He talked glowingly about the organization, But his dad passed when he was young and his mom is sick. He just wanted easier access to see her. Can't fault a guy for that.

That said, his value may have lowered abit due to a limited amount of teams listed, but probably not all that much. And as far as attitude/how he was playing/contract etc, all of that kept his value pretty high.

Drouin and yaks are totally different circumstances. And for sure both had lowered value due to those (drouins play in the playoffs has probably erased all of that now)
And again, why couldn't drouin or yaks be kept? I'd actually bet that drouin is retained now. Especially if stamkos walks

Well no poop Hall/laine. He's only been 6 years older and been playing in the NHL.
- Jeropotato

Jesus you didn't waste any time jumping right back in and getting the leafs fans all riled up

Laine is good but I don't know if he will ever be Hall good. He is good but most prospecting sites criticize his skating ability. Hall is leading the WC in scoring right now. Yeah Canada is a better team but Laine is getting tons of ice time and is their top PP line. Hall and McDavid are being moved through as they can play any role. I like Trouba and Laine but Take the 4 the pick in Tckachuk and trade for a UFA's rights. You don't give up your best player since his draft because you have a center that will be better. Besides, Win is not going to do this deal. The team needs to pick high for the fans. It is worth a lot to them as a franchise.
- Hall Fan

Dude, I think you're gonna need to come to terms with the fact that one if ebs/4th/nuge is probably gonna go.

It's the only sure fire way to acquire a top notch defender.

Banking on free agents to fill both defensive needs is foolhardy.
An undesirable fan crazed market (maybe a little more desirable now with Connor- but that remains to be seen) a fairly undesirable location and a losing franchise for years. Competing with 29 other teams for the services of a very small amount of impact defenders. And we probably need two of them

Plus, if we're acquiring high talent defenders, you're probably taking on anywhere from 4-6.5 mil. Each. So salary will need to be moved around somewhere at some point.

Even if pc found a taker for the 4th and went into the free agent pool for the other. Someone's gonna go to free up salary at some point.
And no, we can't just dump korpikoski or fayne on anyone we want


4th for something - Add salary
Free agent defender - Add salary
Ebs for prospects etc - Subtract salary
Cheaper Free agent winger - Add salary

Still took on about 6 or 7 mil in that scenario. And that's with moving ebs

Laine is good but I don't know if he will ever be Hall good. He is good but most prospecting sites criticize his skating ability. Hall is leading the WC in scoring right now. Yeah Canada is a better team but Laine is getting tons of ice time and is their top PP line. Hall and McDavid are being moved through as they can play any role. I like Trouba and Laine but Take the 4 the pick in Tckachuk and trade for a UFA's rights. You don't give up your best player since his draft because you have a center that will be better. Besides, Win is not going to do this deal. The team needs to pick high for the fans. It is worth a lot to them as a franchise.
- Hall Fan

I thought I told you to delete your account and stop posting about all winter sports played on and around ice

I thought I told you to delete your account and stop posting about all winter sports played on and around ice
- DDM-Coga

Jesus you didn't waste any time jumping right back in and getting the leafs fans all riled up
- Iggysbff

Well no point in getting the lube....I'm going in dry.

Laine is good but I don't know if he will ever be Hall good. He is good but most prospecting sites criticize his skating ability. Hall is leading the WC in scoring right now. Yeah Canada is a better team but Laine is getting tons of ice time and is their top PP line. Hall and McDavid are being moved through as they can play any role. I like Trouba and Laine but Take the 4 the pick in Tckachuk and trade for a UFA's rights. You don't give up your best player since his draft because you have a center that will be better. Besides, Win is not going to do this deal. The team needs to pick high for the fans. It is worth a lot to them as a franchise.
- Hall Fan

Jesus christ of latter day saints man! One hasn't even been drafted yet and the other is an elite player in the NHL and is 6 years older. It's like apples and oranges.

Well no point in getting the lube....I'm going in dry.
- Jeropotato

Hey (frank)face. What's shakin?

I thought I told you to delete your account and stop posting about all winter sports played on and around ice
- DDM-Coga

- Lahey

Nail any fat chicks lately ?