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smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 14 @ 11:24 AM ET
That would have fixed everything

Honestly the blues finishing with the 11th pick there really screwed them over. If the Blues had a top 10 pick the Avs would have gotten the 2012 1st round pick instead. So either they would have traded the Blues pick (25th) for Varly that draft or drafted 1 of Schmaltz w/ Blues pick or Forsberg w/ Avs pick instead

- DDM-Coga



Who are you hoping for at 10 this year? I'd like Brown or Keller at 11.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 14 @ 11:26 AM ET
Reid Boucher round 4
- smellmyfinger

We have nothing to show for drafting out of the 1st round for so many years. Nice that Davidson is turning into a decent player
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 14 @ 11:27 AM ET
Who are you hoping for at 10 this year? I'd like Brown or Keller at 11.
- smellmyfinger


Brown or Mcleod for fwd, but if one of the dmen Juolevi, Chychrun, Sergachev are available at 10. I would take one of them.

Only way one of those dmen would be available at 10 if someone takes Brown or Keller in top 10.

Honestly this year the 3rd tear of guys out of the top 10 are so close to one another, doesnt really matter to me
2centz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.04.2015

May 14 @ 11:55 AM ET
Finally the closest thing I have seen you get to an opinion of your own.

Carlson is good but it is like a few years ago when you had a hard on for Lowe and MacT. I can't tell you how great the team is going to be with out top 6 forwards in place and some defense. With the expansion coming up, trading this years first pick is insane. No one will do it and people will be smart to trade for it if they have cap problems or vast talent. Carlson to me is not a top 20 defenseman. I am not saying that Hall is a top 20 forward but he could get there in terms of points with Leon or McDavid.

- Hall Fan


Carlson had 55pts last season,and just had 12pts in 12 playoff games this season. How is he not a top 20 D? I think you should take a closer look at Carlson,before making such claims...
2centz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.04.2015

May 14 @ 11:57 AM ET
So you strengthen your blue line and weaken your wing... makes zero sense
- LittleRickyV2


Because having great wingers and a weak D have brought us the desired results...
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 14 @ 12:02 PM ET
Brown or Mcleod for fwd, but if one of the dmen Juolevi, Chychrun, Sergachev are available at 10. I would take one of them.

Only way one of those dmen would be available at 10 if someone takes Brown or Keller in top 10.

Honestly this year the 3rd tear of guys out of the top 10 are so close to one another, doesnt really matter to me

- DDM-Coga

I hear the #4 pick is available
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 12:04 PM ET
Carlson had 55pts last season,and just had 12pts in 12 playoff games this season. How is he not a top 20 D? I think you should take a closer look at Carlson,before making such claims...
- 2centz


Carlson is about as close to untouchable as you get. Washington doesn't have great depth at D. They have good D but after Carlson there is no one that is even close to a number 1. They are not even going to consider trading him. End of story.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 14 @ 12:04 PM ET
Carlson had 55pts last season,and just had 12pts in 12 playoff games this season. How is he not a top 20 D? I think you should take a closer look at Carlson,before making such claims...
- 2centz

John Carlson is a true #1 stud. He is definitely top 20 in the league.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 12:05 PM ET
Finally the closest thing I have seen you get to an opinion of your own.

Carlson is good but it is like a few years ago when you had a hard on for Lowe and MacT. I can't tell you how great the team is going to be with out top 6 forwards in place and some defense. With the expansion coming up, trading this years first pick is insane. No one will do it and people will be smart to trade for it if they have cap problems or vast talent. Carlson to me is not a top 20 defenseman. I am not saying that Hall is a top 20 forward but he could get there in terms of points with Leon or McDavid.

- Hall Fan



Do you wear a helmet all day long??? Maybe you should...
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 14 @ 12:06 PM ET
Carlson is about as close to untouchable as you get. Washington doesn't have great depth at D. They have good D but after Carlson there is no one that is even close to a number 1. They are not even going to consider trading him. End of story.
- Iggysbff



On top of the fact that he has two more seasons left at a cap hit under 4 mil. Absolutely no reason for the Caps to trade him.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 14 @ 12:06 PM ET
Carlson is about as close to untouchable as you get. Washington doesn't have great depth at D. They have good D but after Carlson there is no one that is even close to a number 1. They are not even going to consider trading him. End of story.
- Iggysbff

I really don't see them doing much of anything. They were the best team in the league all season. They're set in net, on D, and at all forward positions. They have one of the best coaches in the league too. A couple of minor tweaks but nothing major.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 12:07 PM ET
I hear the #4 pick is available
- Ihatebrianburke

#4 and Oesterle for Barrie.

Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 12:08 PM ET
I really don't see them doing much of anything. They were the best team in the league all season. They're set in net, on D, and at all forward positions. They have one of the best coaches in the league too. A couple of minor tweaks but nothing major.
- Ihatebrianburke

Agreed.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 1:01 PM ET
Lots of discussion on potential deals from guys like Freidman.

Button says he ranks Faulk and Vatanen ahead of Barrie. That settles it. Barrie is the best of the bunch

Stauffer and Terry Jones both sure Nuge is very highly rated by PC and Todd. Jones said a core player not named Nuge will go for a dman. Stauffer said Carolina would have to add to Faulk to get Nuge.

Come on draft day
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 14 @ 1:20 PM ET
Lots of discussion on potential deals from guys like Freidman.

Button says he ranks Faulk and Vatanen ahead of Barrie. That settles it. Barrie is the best of the bunch

Stauffer and Terry Jones both sure Nuge is very highly rated by PC and Todd. Jones said a core player not named Nuge will go for a dman. Stauffer said Carolina would have to add to Faulk to get Nuge.

Come on draft day

- Iggysbff


Three Way Deal.

Edmonton Gets Barrie
Avs get Vantanen
Ducks get Eberle
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 14 @ 1:38 PM ET
Lots of discussion on potential deals from guys like Freidman.

Button says he ranks Faulk and Vatanen ahead of Barrie. That settles it. Barrie is the best of the bunch

Stauffer and Terry Jones both sure Nuge is very highly rated by PC and Todd. Jones said a core player not named Nuge will go for a dman. Stauffer said Carolina would have to add to Faulk to get Nuge.

Come on draft day

- Iggysbff

I would say Faulk is the best of that bunch followed by Barrie and then Vatanen
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
Three Way Deal.

Edmonton Gets Barrie
Avs get Vantanen
Ducks get Eberle

- DDM-Coga

Make it happen
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 14 @ 2:02 PM ET
Make it happen
- Ihatebrianburke


thats the only way I can see the Oilers getting their hands on Barrie. Has to be a 2 part deal with another team as well
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
thats the only way I can see the Oilers getting their hands on Barrie. Has to be a 2 part deal with another team as well
- DDM-Coga

Ducks are pretty set at Center and RW. I think they really want a Left winger. Hence the Pouliot rumour.

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 14 @ 2:19 PM ET
Lots of discussion on potential deals from guys like Freidman.

Button says he ranks Faulk and Vatanen ahead of Barrie. That settles it. Barrie is the best of the bunch

Stauffer and Terry Jones both sure Nuge is very highly rated by PC and Todd. Jones said a core player not named Nuge will go for a dman. Stauffer said Carolina would have to add to Faulk to get Nuge.

Come on draft day

- Iggysbff

Man, Stauffer is really out to lunch if he thinks they'd have to add to Faulk to get Nuge. Like damn.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

May 14 @ 2:20 PM ET
I would say Faulk is the best of that bunch followed by Barrie and then Vatanen
- Ihatebrianburke


Same here. Faulk and Sekera reunited on the Oil.

I'd say Barrie is close to Faulk but hasn't been exposed as much. Vatanen is worse than Barrie and even less experienced in a top pairing role.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 14 @ 2:28 PM ET
Same here. Faulk and Sekera reunited on the Oil.

I'd say Barrie is close to Faulk but hasn't been exposed as much. Vatanen is worse than Barrie and even less experienced in a top pairing role.

- RonPielep

I'm all about Faulk, but Carolina won't be moving him of their own volition. Barrie is the right move as of now.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 2:30 PM ET
Man, Stauffer is really out to lunch if he thinks they'd have to add to Faulk to get Nuge. Like damn.
- MaximumBone

Stauffer is also the guy that said the Oilers turned down Nuge for Jones. Some others say it was Poile that declined. Stauffer is one of the few that actually has some inside info. Who knows.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 14 @ 2:35 PM ET
Stauffer is also the guy that said the Oilers turned down Nuge for Jones. Some others say it was Poile that declined. Stauffer is one of the few that actually has some inside info. Who knows.
- Iggysbff

He can have all the inside info he wants. It doesn't change the fact that there's no chance Carolina would add to Faulk to get Nuge. I don't see why they do it straight up even. Chiarelli would be absolutely daft to not jump on a 1-for-1 (Nuge for Faulk).

The only acceptable reason for not accepting that 1-for-1 is if you've already got a deal to get Barrie that's costing you FAR less. Even then, I'd rather have both than just one.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 14 @ 2:39 PM ET
He can have all the inside info he wants. It doesn't change the fact that there's no chance Carolina would add to Faulk to get Nuge. I don't see why they do it straight up even. Chiarelli would be absolutely daft to not jump on a 1-for-1 (Nuge for Faulk).

The only acceptable reason for not accepting that 1-for-1 is if you've already got a deal to get Barrie that's costing you FAR less. Even then, I'd rather have both than just one.

- MaximumBone

If chiarelli hesitated on nuge for faulk straight up; ...fired
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