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Yeah but are you improving by moving your consistently best player that is set at a great contract price. He is essentially a point a game player on a team that has been terrible well before he was drafted. Him + for Carlson? There is a time to trade a guy like this but it is after a team shows some life. Before then you part with prospects and picks if need be. Plus Center is where we look to have the long term surplus. Yes Leon can play both wing and Center but the way he played for the Rockets would you want a guy like him on the wing? There is a reason he was MVP despite losing. Once he gets some experience and starts winning faceoffs he will be more valuable as the second line center. Someone you are not worried about being caught out there on an icing or def end faceoffs with little time left.
RNH will be the guy to go but our forward situation isn't so great that we can trade off talent at a discount. - Hall Fan
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This is the problem. Why trade any? Hall and Eberle are both great players. If you doubt their play as Oilers then rewatch them play in last years worlds. Eberle is a prolific goal scorer. He has amazing accuracy and a release that few can rival. He is underrated as he is often used offensively and not usually big game goals (as the Oilers don't play many big games). Still he is calm under pressure and can get the job done when it counts. This is actually something missed in a lot of top 6 forwards.
As for Hall, he is the Oilers best player historically. No doubt McDavid will pass him but odds are Hall will always be a top player both on the Oilers and Team Canada. His numbers are consistently good on a team that is consistently bad.
Trading any wing right now is silly. There is a time for it but the Oilers won't get their real value and they have decent contracts. No need. The blue line can be addressed in other ways. As for wingers, yes you keep Maroon, he is great and maybe Kassian to bring that edge (I know the latter is a UFA). Who to play with McDavid? Answer is anyone. Yes Maroon did good with McDavid but so would the guy that sharpens their skates. If you asked who to play with Leon/RNH, then that is a question of chemistry and skills. McDavid is a well rounded player. He can use his body, setup plays and score. He is good on both sides of the ice and can play with anyone.
Answer is to keep Maroon on the top 6 and add a cheap UFA to move pouliot to the third line. He is good but he is not going to be able to keep up with the Oilers top guys for long (if he actually does now). I think try a reclamation like Perron. He played good when he was here and can probably replace Nail/Pouliot at a bargain. There are many other options but I was just throwing out a possible UFA that might want to go back to being the top goal scorer on his respective team like he was with the OIl (that won't happen again but they chance must be a thought for him). - Hall Fan
Because John Carlson is a stud right shot D,that Edmonton needs in the worst way. I love Taylor Hall,but I would trade either of them,if it meant bringing John Carlson to the Oilers |
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Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI Joined: 03.09.2013
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This is the problem. Why trade any? Hall and Eberle are both great players. If you doubt their play as Oilers then rewatch them play in last years worlds. Eberle is a prolific goal scorer. He has amazing accuracy and a release that few can rival. He is underrated as he is often used offensively and not usually big game goals (as the Oilers don't play many big games). Still he is calm under pressure and can get the job done when it counts. This is actually something missed in a lot of top 6 forwards.
As for Hall, he is the Oilers best player historically. No doubt McDavid will pass him but odds are Hall will always be a top player both on the Oilers and Team Canada. His numbers are consistently good on a team that is consistently bad.
Trading any wing right now is silly. There is a time for it but the Oilers won't get their real value and they have decent contracts. No need. The blue line can be addressed in other ways. As for wingers, yes you keep Maroon, he is great and maybe Kassian to bring that edge (I know the latter is a UFA). Who to play with McDavid? Answer is anyone. Yes Maroon did good with McDavid but so would the guy that sharpens their skates. If you asked who to play with Leon/RNH, then that is a question of chemistry and skills. McDavid is a well rounded player. He can use his body, setup plays and score. He is good on both sides of the ice and can play with anyone.
Answer is to keep Maroon on the top 6 and add a cheap UFA to move pouliot to the third line. He is good but he is not going to be able to keep up with the Oilers top guys for long (if he actually does now). I think try a reclamation like Perron. He played good when he was here and can probably replace Nail/Pouliot at a bargain. There are many other options but I was just throwing out a possible UFA that might want to go back to being the top goal scorer on his respective team like he was with the OIl (that won't happen again but they chance must be a thought for him). - Hall Fan
Didn't read. |
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Because John Carlson is a stud right shot D,that Edmonton needs in the worst way. I love Taylor Hall,but I would trade either of them,if it meant bringing John Carlson to the Oilers - 2centz
I would trade anyone not named Connor to get him |
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I would trade anyone not named Connor to get him - Ihatebrianburke
Finally the closest thing I have seen you get to an opinion of your own.
Carlson is good but it is like a few years ago when you had a hard on for Lowe and MacT. I can't tell you how great the team is going to be with out top 6 forwards in place and some defense. With the expansion coming up, trading this years first pick is insane. No one will do it and people will be smart to trade for it if they have cap problems or vast talent. Carlson to me is not a top 20 defenseman. I am not saying that Hall is a top 20 forward but he could get there in terms of points with Leon or McDavid. |
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Finally the closest thing I have seen you get to an opinion of your own.
Carlson is good but it is like a few years ago when you had a hard on for Lowe and MacT. I can't tell you how great the team is going to be with out top 6 forwards in place and some defense. With the expansion coming up, trading this years first pick is insane. No one will do it and people will be smart to trade for it if they have cap problems or vast talent. Carlson to me is not a top 20 defenseman. I am not saying that Hall is a top 20 forward but he could get there in terms of points with Leon or McDavid. - Hall Fan
What are you on? Cause I want some of it! You are (frank)ed! |
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Because John Carlson is a stud right shot D,that Edmonton needs in the worst way. I love Taylor Hall,but I would trade either of them,if it meant bringing John Carlson to the Oilers - 2centz
So you strengthen your blue line and weaken your wing... makes zero sense |
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So you strengthen your blue line and weaken your wing... makes zero sense - LittleRickyV2
Merrill for Hall. Do it. |
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Merrill for Hall. Do it. - smellmyfinger
Larsson for Yak & Yak |
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Larsson for Yak & Yak - LittleRickyV2
Toss in Leon for Tootoo? |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Finally the closest thing I have seen you get to an opinion of your own.
Carlson is good but it is like a few years ago when you had a hard on for Lowe and MacT. I can't tell you how great the team is going to be with out top 6 forwards in place and some defense. With the expansion coming up, trading this years first pick is insane. No one will do it and people will be smart to trade for it if they have cap problems or vast talent. Carlson to me is not a top 20 defenseman. I am not saying that Hall is a top 20 forward but he could get there in terms of points with Leon or McDavid. - Hall Fan
Delete your account |
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Toss in Leon for Tootoo? - smellmyfinger
nah... we have enough visible minorities on the team |
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nah... we have enough visible minorities on the team - LittleRickyV2
fair enough. Make it Farnham and we will call it a deal. |
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Delete your account - DDM-Coga
What's up with your boy Siemens? |
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fair enough. Make it Farnham and we will call it a deal. - smellmyfinger
We need "Mein Fuhrer" to keep the minorities and Leon Kennedy in check. |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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What's up with your boy Siemens? - smellmyfinger
stinks. Too many concussions and injuries the past few seasons, never really developed properly |
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stinks. Too many concussions and injuries the past few seasons, never really developed properly - DDM-Coga
That sucks. What a disappointment that draft class turned out to be. |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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That sucks. What a disappointment that draft class turned out to be. - smellmyfinger
good draft for Swedes...Landy, Klef Larsson |
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Larsson for Yak & Yak - LittleRickyV2
Do it!!! |
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good draft for Swedes...Landy, Klef Larsson - DDM-Coga
Before the Devils moved up to 4 in the lotto I was hoping for Couturier, Siemens or Hamilton.
When we moved up to 4 I was hoping Lando would drop somehow.
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Before the Devils moved up to 4 in the lotto I was hoping for Couturier, Siemens or Hamilton.
When we moved up to 4 I was hoping Lando would drop somehow.
I'm pleased with Larsson though, even if he didn't turn into the next you know who. - smellmyfinger
I thought the Avs were going to draft Dougie since he kept on sliding, what a kick in the nuts that Hamilton, Brodin are drafted right in front of Siemens. |
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That sucks. What a disappointment that draft class turned out to be. - smellmyfinger
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I thought the Avs were going to draft Dougie since he kept on sliding, what a kick in the nuts that Hamilton, Brodin are drafted right in front of Siemens. - DDM-Coga
You guys totally could have had Tyler Biggs there. |
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David Musil - Ihatebrianburke
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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You guys totally could have had Tyler Biggs there. - smellmyfinger
That would have fixed everything
Honestly the blues finishing with the 11th pick there really screwed them over. If the Blues had a top 10 pick the Avs would have gotten the 2012 1st round pick instead. So either they would have traded the Blues pick (25th) for Varly that draft or drafted 1 of Schmaltz w/ Blues pick or Forsberg w/ Avs pick instead
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