I read your first sentence...

Nobody is saying all the forwards the Oil have are elite. I just explained it to the other guy.

There is actually so much wrong in that post I don't even know where to start.

But most importantly you are completely missing the point, I'm not saying the package you suggested isn't valuable. It just doesn't make sense from the perspective of the Oils needs. They aren't giving up their best trade chip without using it to help fix their biggest hole. Nobody you have offered does that. Kapish?
- RonPielep

Obviously I don't mean ALL of Edmonton's forwards lol. I'm speaking of the ones we've been talking about in trades. You probably can find a better package for Hall other then the one I suggested. What exactly are you expecting to receive in return for Hall? A Doughty or Subban type of defensemen?

This is how I see it shaping up:

Cammalleri-Henrique-DSP
Blandisi-Zajac-Palmieri
Elias-Zacha-Boucher
Kalinin-Josefson-Kennedy

Not exactly an elite lineup but it's balanced, If Stempniak comes back then he takes DSP's spot, DSP slides down to 3rd line RW with Boucher on LW, Elias plays 4th line LW with Josefson and Kalinin. If Cullen can be successful on the 4th line then Elias should be able to as well with additional time on specialty teams.

Cammalleri-Henrique-Stempniak
Blandisi-Zajac-Palmieri
Boucher-Zacha-DSP
Elias-Josefson-Kalinin
- NJDSTRONG

Damn bro, I mean, that's like the same exact team from last year lol. I like the addition by subtraction with no gionta, ruutu, tootoo, etc. but we need some more firepower in our lineup.

Damn bro, I mean, that's like the same exact team from last year lol. I like the addition by subtraction with no gionta, ruutu, tootoo, etc. but we need some more firepower in our lineup.
- rawwdogg88

Short of signing stamkos we're not going to add much firepower. Obviously that lineup isn't ideal if we're trying to make the playoffs but I wouldn't be that negative about it for next season.

Obviously I don't mean ALL of Edmonton's forwards lol. I'm speaking of the ones we've been talking about in trades. You probably can find a better package for Hall other then the one I suggested. What exactly are you expecting to receive in return for Hall? A Doughty or Subban type of defensemen?
- rawwdogg88

Yeah I meant that too, nobody said Yakupov was elite. The only person that I've referred to as elite is Hall...

Ideally, but realistically it would be a tier below Norris caliber.

Short of signing stamkos we're not going to add much firepower. Obviously that lineup isn't ideal if we're trying to make the playoffs but I wouldn't be that negative about it for next season.
- rmdevil313

I disagree. I really think we pull off a draft day trade similar to the Palmieri trade last season. We'll add a piece in UFA and the 11th pick will surely add some firepower. The pick may not factor in for another season or two, but it's still adding a piece.

Yeah I meant that too, nobody said Yakupov was elite. The only person that I've referred to as elite is Hall...

Ideally, but realistically it would be a tier below Norris caliber.
- RonPielep

That's understandable. I'd shoot for the stars too If I was trading away a player like Hall. I do think the oil move him. Possibly on draft day. June 24th should be a very interesting day.

And that's why. It's not that Yak definitely won'y be a good forward, it's that the Devils can't afford to throw away pieces that are a part of the future for maybes.
- smellmyfinger

Exactly.

That's understandable. I'd shoot for the stars too If I was trading away a player like Hall. I do think the oil move him. Possibly on draft day. June 24th should be a very interesting day.
- rawwdogg88

Yeah the problem is I say all that and I have no idea who I am referring to because none of those guys seem available.

I am leaning towards thinking they hold on to Hall and move Ebs + or something to get a lesser D man because that's the best available.

I disagree. I really think we pull off a draft day trade similar to the Palmieri trade last season. We'll add a piece in UFA and the 11th pick will surely add some firepower. The pick may not factor in for another season or two, but it's still adding a piece.
- rawwdogg88

Well that lineup was for next season, so I don't see how a pick that won't crack the roster for a year or two factors in. And while anything can happen its doubtful that we'd be able to add a player of Palmieri's calibre for so cheap again. Not many names that have been floating around are promising. Drouin was probably the only chance and if he still gets traded it will be for a fortune.

Well that lineup was for next season, so I don't see how a pick that won't crack the roster for a year or two factors in. And while anything can happen its doubtful that we'd be able to add a player of Palmieri's calibre for so cheap again. Not many names that have been floating around are promising. Drouin was probably the only chance and if he still gets traded it will be for a fortune.
- rmdevil313

We can factor in Zacha next year at least which should def add some firepower. Hopefully his concussion issues aren't too serious.

I could be wrong but I don't recall hearing Palmieri's name floating around too much last year. Anyways, I have faith in Shero, and I believe he'll pull off a trade similar to last year. Maybe I'm just too optimistic. Time will tell

I apologize for getting everyone riled up. All I was getting at was that if there were to be a chance to get yak without giving up too much I would take it. I should not have even thrown out names. That is my bad.

I agree with larson in a way that we should be OK for bottom 6, I just want Martin to replace tootoo. No more gio Farnham ruutu or tootoo. I wouldn't hate tk as a depth forwardd. I would not expect another Palmieri esk trade. I'd rather wood q etc got time in albany. I see zacha with us since there's not much left for him in junior.

Well that lineup was for next season, so I don't see how a pick that won't crack the roster for a year or two factors in. And while anything can happen its doubtful that we'd be able to add a player of Palmieri's calibre for so cheap again. Not many names that have been floating around are promising. Drouin was probably the only chance and if he still gets traded it will be for a fortune.
- rmdevil313

Colin Wilson, Shinkaruk, maybe Rattie could be some options.

So just so I'm clear here, Yakupov for a 2nd and Eberle for Severson+ is on the table

Nice rebuttal man, have a snickers.

They didn't pay anything even close to Hall for Cam Talbot. But thanks for proving my point.

Also, what's that, the Oil team is all elite?
I don't know who told you that but it's funny how you act like most of them aren't worth poop and then go on to make some point about how they are all elite and still suck.
- RonPielep

Yeah no crap you didn't pay Hall value for talbot, because he's a nobody. But you paid a lot for a backup. What do you think it takes to land a bonafide to 5 goalie like Schnieder? Yeah, I know they're practically free right now but you gonna stick with the lousy goaltending that's personifies Oiler hockey for yeas now... Enjoy.

Your fired
- K-dizzle

.. you're

So just so I'm clear here, Yakupov for a 2nd and Eberle for Severson+ is on the table
- MaximumBone

We should probably all fight about it.

We should probably all fight about it.
- smellmyfinger

Fight club style or broken pool stick style?

Fight club style or broken pool stick style?
- Wildschwein

Bloodsport

Everyone thinks they can be a better GM. Just sit down and enjoy the show, because no one is listening to this blog.

Damn when I saw 90+ comments on the tread I wasn't expecting to open up an ongoing argument with an Oilers fan lol never the less, none of us are professional GMs therefore none of us know the "right" move to make. I will tell you guys this much though, Shero is building for the future, not next season. I'd love to see New Jersey go out and add the "sexy" names but truth of the matter is, if Shero were to make any moves it would be a Palmieiri type trade. Couple draft picks for a guy who still has RFA years left. Trading Larsson or Severson will set this organization back. I say hold onto both of those guys, pick off a guy from a cap strapped team and maybe add a FA or 2. Personally I'd like Okposo/ Martin but like I said, Shero is thinking big picture so I doubt that would happen. Hopefully Keller or Brown fall to 11

Everyone thinks they can be a better GM. Just sit down and enjoy the show, because no one is listening to this blog.
- PapaSquat

No way man, trade everyone for stuff right now!

Colin Wilson, Shinkaruk, maybe Rattie could be some options.
- Devils9503

Wilson is already 26, SHinkaruk was just traded so I don't see him being moved so quickly, and Rattie might be a potential target although I think the blues will probably use him to fill in Brouwer's spot next season.

The move is trade adam larsson to edmonton for the 4th pick!!

If Shero were to hold onto all assets and add through the draft/ free agency rather then make any trades, I'd like to see..

Cammalleri-Henrique-Okposo
Boucher-Zajac-Palmieri
Blandisi-Zacha-Smith-Pelly
Kalini-Josefson-Martin

Those are 4 solid lines who could compete. If Zacha was to be sent for another year of development, Shero could still go the Elias route and give him one more final year to play 3rd line center. As for the other changes, Okposo is exactly what New Jersey needs. I'd understand if he doesn't fit the plans and Shero doesn't want to overpay, that's fine, but he should at least be considered. The fact that he plays RW alone makes him an attractive option for New Jersey. Signing Matt Martin for a bottoms 6 role could help lure Okposo to New Jersey and he's is the type of player New Jersey needs! Aside from Farnham and Tootoo who aren't that big and may not even be back next season, the Devils lack grit. At 6"3, 220 pounds he would add a lot of nasty to New Jerseys bottom 6.

Best part about this scenario? New Jersey doesn't lose a single draft pick and still manages to improve the on ice product. With a ton of cap space to play with, I wonder if Shero tries to lure those 2 over the river and into Devils red. Thoughts?
- Youwont_noballs

Sign Matt Martin. Makes too much sense. The stat guys won't like it, the pacifists (who think hockey is figure skating with a puck) won't like, and the rest of the NHL (who are used to being able to physically shove the Devils around) won't like it.

Thought it was bizarre that Hynes (who brought in all of his Pitt/Boston cronies who are non-ohysical) raved about Santini after the last game, and said his hit was something they were missing all year.

Coach, you were the one who kept running out the Warsefsky (sp?) and OMG's of the world, and not playing Helgeson, and telling him to use size to crush people. Despite what the numbers say.... physicality and intimidation is a large part of hockey. Don't need to be a goon, but having people who can hit and lay a hurting on someone (without injuring people) is important. The Devils lack that.

Signing Martin would be an improvement by himself over our current fourth liners, whether or not Okposo comes with him.