If Jakob Chychrun falls to #8. I'd go hard after him. I think he'll be, if nothing more, better than his dad.
- jmatchett383

Trade up to take another LHD? I'd rather just take a forward at 18.

Right, fully agree with everything you're saying, I'm not actually interested in signing him, unless it was for a 2 year deal which, knowing the market, he will get at least 4.

my point, is that how the flyers are currently structured, i think backes would be a great complement to the team, to slot into that 2C spot, and do we have anyone in house that resembles that game or is there a cheaper FA that can do it, albeit less than Backes can? I love coots as a 2C, dont get me wrong. But he is only 23, he has plenty of time to put together his offensive tool kit. Moving him back to a third line shutdown role and giving him some 2nd unit PP time would be awesome, so he could focus on the PK while shutting other top units down. I wouldve loved Gagner to realize the potential he had coming out all those years ago, and have a lineup look like:

10 - 28 - 17
12 - 89 - 93
21 - 14 - 24/Konecny
78 - 52 - 25

Wishful thinking tho
- sjk540

I would rather keep Couts in the top 6. He needs to play with better wingers if you want him to develop an offensive game. He produced at a 50 point pace and had his best season this past year.

A guy to keep an eye on could be Frans Nielson. He's very good defensively and can be slotted in at 3C. He'd immediately take a good deal of the defensive burden away from Couts and G. He's great in shootouts too.

He'd come cheaper than Backes and likely at fewer years. If the Flyers could get him for 2 years, he'd be a nice fit. I'd be a little concerned at going 3 years.

Trade up to take another LHD? I'd rather just take a forward at 18.
- Feanor

Wonder if a trade up for Bellows or Keller could happen. LW is what I really think should be targeted. Martel and Lindbolm are about the only two that interest me in the system with Dove-McFalls being a maybe. Can't hurt to add another.

Explains exactly what we saw from Giroux.

Im sure his bashers will show up with their keyboard warrior tough guy play through it BS but to anyone with any knowledge of Giroux it was clear he looked like a shell of what he has been.

I think MJL said it best early in this thread..they need to find a way to take the load off Giroux some.
- opeth_pa

KAMSTOS

KAMSTOS
- Giroux_Is_God

SOKMATS?

Trade up to take another LHD? I'd rather just take a forward at 18.
- Feanor

I don't see all of Ghost/Morin/Sanheim/Provorov/Myers hitting. If you can grab another top-end defensive prospect, I'd do it, depending on the price. More lotto tickets is a better chance of hitting the jackpot.

Right, fully agree with everything you're saying, I'm not actually interested in signing him, unless it was for a 2 year deal which, knowing the market, he will get at least 4.

my point, is that how the flyers are currently structured, i think backes would be a great complement to the team, to slot into that 2C spot, and do we have anyone in house that resembles that game or is there a cheaper FA that can do it, albeit less than Backes can? I love coots as a 2C, dont get me wrong. But he is only 23, he has plenty of time to put together his offensive tool kit. Moving him back to a third line shutdown role and giving him some 2nd unit PP time would be awesome, so he could focus on the PK while shutting other top units down. I wouldve loved Gagner to realize the potential he had coming out all those years ago, and have a lineup look like:

10 - 28 - 17
12 - 89 - 93
21 - 14 - 24/Konecny
78 - 52 - 25

Wishful thinking tho
- sjk540

In my opinion, Couturier is entering into his prime, the time for moving him down in the lineup in a shutdown role is over. The time now, is to play him at that 2nd line center role, unless of course anyone thinks he cannot be a 2nd line center, which I would disagree with.

In the list of band things I never thought I would see...

They are going to sound horrible but who the hell cares, the original Misfits lineup of Danzig, Doyle and Only are reuniting for 2 shows.

http://www.heyreverb.com/...rs-2016-riot-fest/117003/

In the list of band things I never thought I would see...

They are going to sound horrible but who the hell cares, the original Misfits lineup of Danzig, Doyle and Only are reuniting for 2 shows.

http://www.heyreverb.com/...rs-2016-riot-fest/117003/
- opeth_pa

I respect them for what they did, but the Misfits are the most overrated punk band ever (maybe Sex Pistols). That said, it would be cool to see.

Now, if someone delivered an entire bank vault to Ian MacKaye's house for a Minor Threat reunion, I would do basically whatever was necessary to go.

Trade up to take another LHD? I'd rather just take a forward at 18.
- Feanor

i rather pick forward at 18 and trade for 25-30 pick to snag another forward such as Benson.

Would love to see Backes here, would make an excellent addition to the team the way its set up. however, the money and term will be astronomical and wouldnt fit our plans. Is there another cheap FA option? Do we have anyone in house to fill that role? Nick Cousins seems to be growing a bit, but he doesn't have nearly the effect on a game a Backes or Stamkos has. How bout Laughton? Do we try him back at center and move cousins to center white and PEB on the 4th line? So many questions my head is spinning.


- sjk540

Yeah, Backes is too old and will certainly be overpaid as well. They need someone at least on an equivalent level with Coots and they have no one in the pipeline right now. Laughton looks more like a winger to me and Cousins, due to his lack of speed and size, looks more like a good agitating 4C who can step up to 3C if needed, but not on a contender. Konecny can play C, but I also think he projects more as a RW, and since Hextall has said he prefers big, fast centers who play a 200 foot game, I'm not sure he'd want a center corps consisting of 2 undersized guys and a 3rd who lacks speed.

I've been using this site for a few years and I think they do a good job of predicting what will happen. They have Bean and Sergachyov going well before our pick.

http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/
- Feanor

I'd take Kunin over Tufte, I'm leery of the lack of competition that he's faced.

I would rather keep Couts in the top 6. He needs to play with better wingers if you want him to develop an offensive game. He produced at a 50 point pace and had his best season this past year.

A guy to keep an eye on could be Frans Nielson. He's very good defensively and can be slotted in at 3C. He'd immediately take a good deal of the defensive burden away from Couts and G. He's great in shootouts too.

He'd come cheaper than Backes and likely at fewer years. If the Flyers could get him for 2 years, he'd be a nice fit. I'd be a little concerned at going 3 years.
- PhillySportsGuy

Agreed, I like Nielson, but someone will offer him at least 4 years, and I wouldn't go past 3.

I respect them for what they did, but the Misfits are the most overrated punk band ever (maybe Sex Pistols). That said, it would be cool to see.

Now, if someone delivered an entire bank vault to Ian MacKaye's house for a Minor Threat reunion, I would do basically whatever was necessary to go.
- jmatchett383

I dont know if they can be overrated as they basically defined a subgenre of punk but I also understand what you are saying...

I just got to see Samhain this year with as close to the classic lineup as Danzig is going to tour with..

My best friend just spent $400 on a Minor Threat 7inch..Good times there!

trade down for Kunin and Rubstov

I don't see all of Ghost/Morin/Sanheim/Provorov/Myers hitting. If you can grab another top-end defensive prospect, I'd do it, depending on the price. More lotto tickets is a better chance of hitting the jackpot.
- jmatchett383

Agreed. A good young defensive prospect has so much value. You never know when you are going to hit a #1 dman. In the cap era, it is almost impossible to trade for one unless that guy is well into his thirties.

A young dman's trade value is usually higher then a comparable young forward. I have zero issue if Hexy goes dman again in the first round.

Wonder if a trade up for Bellows or Keller could happen. LW is what I really think should be targeted. Martel and Lindbolm are about the only two that interest me in the system with Dove-McFalls being a maybe. Can't hurt to add another.
- dragonoffrost

Hexy has made it clear that he thinks that teams are built out from goal and up the middle. I wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he took a center in the 1st round.

Personally, I agree with his philosophy. If you can build your net, D and centers from within, wings can be found in FA or via trade when needed.

In my opinion, Couturier is entering into his prime, the time for moving him down in the lineup in a shutdown role is over. The time now, is to play him at that 2nd line center role, unless of course anyone thinks he cannot be a 2nd line center, which I would disagree with.
- MJL

Agree 100%

In my opinion, Couturier is entering into his prime, the time for moving him down in the lineup in a shutdown role is over. The time now, is to play him at that 2nd line center role, unless of course anyone thinks he cannot be a 2nd line center, which I would disagree with.
- MJL

Its not that i dont think he is capable of being the 2C behind G, quite the opposite in fact. However, our scoring is down and we seem like we can't win those high scoring games anymore. now that could be the fact that the system was new and more scoring opportunities were down, not really sure about players individual S%'s, maybe they were very low as well, and hopefully will bounce back to career norms for some of the guys. But we played the most OT games this year, played A LOT of one goal games in addition, i think it would behoove us to get even better defensively if we wont be scoring.

now if our scoring can go up, im all for coots as a 2C. but playing both G and coots top 6 minutes, while also both being integral parts of special teams, less G in recent years but he still plays some if one of the PK guys are in the box for the penalty, its not a great recipe.

you saw G this year be absolutely worn out, you cant be wearing out your biggest offensive weapon. and coots would have if he wasn't injured. taking pressure off of G i think is the biggest thing we can do, as previously mentioned and previously re-mentioned.

I dont know if they can be overrated as they basically defined a subgenre of punk but I also understand what you are saying...

I just got to see Samhain this year with as close to the classic lineup as Danzig is going to tour with..

My best friend just spent $400 on a Minor Threat 7inch..Good times there!
- opeth_pa

Like I said, I respect them for what they did...but when AFI puts out stuff in that subgenre that is better than you...well, that's all I need to know. Their stuff, to me, just doesn't hold up.

Most I ever spent on a record was $110 for an H2O first album test press. I bought that, and decided it was a good note to end my record collection on.

i rather pick forward at 18 and trade for 25-30 pick to snag another forward such as Benson.
- arichardson22

I really like Tyler Benson, he's definitely one of the biggest high risk/high reward type players. been injured in the past, which is why his draft stock has slipped. I would love to take a shot on him in the late first, maybe package our 2's or a 2, 3, 4 to get back in the to end of the first?

In my opinion, Couturier is entering into his prime, the time for moving him down in the lineup in a shutdown role is over. The time now, is to play him at that 2nd line center role, unless of course anyone thinks he cannot be a 2nd line center, which I would disagree with.
- MJL

I personally am not 100% sold on his offensive production as a 2nd line center but I believe he has shown enough that he should get that chance assuming they dont have a better choice.

I do not believe he is or ever will be a 1st line center but I would not be surprised at all to see him do well in a more offensive role.

Like I said, I respect them for what they did...but when AFI puts out stuff in that subgenre that is better than you...well, that's all I need to know. Their stuff, to me, just doesn't hold up.

Most I ever spent on a record was $110 for an H2O first album test press. I bought that, and decided it was a good note to end my record collection on.
- jmatchett383

Eh without The Misfits who knows if their would be an AFI. I can still put on Walk Among Us and those songs hold up to me..I get it though..

I just got my tickets to This Is Hardcore 16 solely for the reason of seeing the Turning Point tribute and not to see YoT or Gorilla Biscuits neither of which hold up for me.

My dream is for you to be stuck in a room with Pronman for eternity with the only exit being a door that leads to another room with Frank Servalli in it.
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't see all of Ghost/Morin/Sanheim/Provorov/Myers hitting. If you can grab another top-end defensive prospect, I'd do it, depending on the price. More lotto tickets is a better chance of hitting the jackpot.
- jmatchett383

And we'd be losing multiple lotto tickets to get one.