YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Its sounding that way...
What happens (at least what we kind of understand as of now) is that when you have this FAI (Femoral Acetabular Impingement) you are unable to have full motion of the hip. Where the head of the Femur meets the neck, there is usually a concavity, however with people who have an FAI, they tend to lack the usual curve, and instead have a bump that hits the socket of the joint (acetabulum) and causes a bunch of issues. The first and most common problem is discomfort and decreased range of motion. Labral tears are also very common.
The idea is that because of this mechanical error of the hip, it causes you to use other areas in the pelvic region to achieve the multi-directional changes needed in elite competition. That change/ over-exertion then leads to athletic pubalgia better known as a sports hernia. Basically, because of the lack of mobility in the hip, your core muscles, primarily those in the groin area, are over worked, and tear -usually the tendon area -and cause the hernia. This leads to other muscles being over used/tearing and the domino effect of a sports hernia is under way...
Sorry for the book, but hope this helps some people understand this foreign language. - jak521
Which Holiday Inn Express did you stay in last night?
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Which Holiday Inn Express did you stay in last night? - YuenglingJagr
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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Its sounding that way...
What happens (at least what we kind of understand as of now) is that when you have this FAI (Femoral Acetabular Impingement) you are unable to have full motion of the hip. Where the head of the Femur meets the neck, there is usually a concavity, however with people who have an FAI, they tend to lack the usual curve, and instead have a bump that hits the socket of the joint (acetabulum) and causes a bunch of issues. The first and most common problem is discomfort and decreased range of motion. Labral tears are also very common.
The idea is that because of this mechanical error of the hip, it causes you to use other areas in the pelvic region to achieve the multi-directional changes needed in elite competition. That change/ over-exertion then leads to athletic pubalgia better known as a sports hernia. Basically, because of the lack of mobility in the hip, your core muscles, primarily those in the groin area, are over worked, and tear -usually the tendon area -and cause the hernia. This leads to other muscles being over used/tearing and the domino effect of a sports hernia is under way...
Sorry for the book, but hope this helps some people understand this foreign language. - jak521
So what you're saying is Giroux is a wussy and should have been better? |
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Just5
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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So what's provoloaf's excuse? |
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johndewar
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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So what you're saying is Giroux is a wussy and should have been better? - PhillySportsGuy
Joe Pavelski would have had the surgery between periods of a playoff game and been back for the 3rd period. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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Joe Pavelski would have had the surgery between periods of a playoff game and been back for the 3rd period. - johndewar
Pavelski would have performed the surgery himself |
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tangent_man
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Location: South Jersey Joined: 11.28.2007
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Pavelski would have performed the surgery himself - PhillySportsGuy
Leadership!
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Just5
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Pavelski would have performed the surgery himself - PhillySportsGuy
And then score with the OR nurse |
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Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Its sounding that way...
What happens (at least what we kind of understand as of now) is that when you have this FAI (Femoral Acetabular Impingement) you are unable to have full motion of the hip. Where the head of the Femur meets the neck, there is usually a concavity, however with people who have an FAI, they tend to lack the usual curve, and instead have a bump that hits the socket of the joint (acetabulum) and causes a bunch of issues. The first and most common problem is discomfort and decreased range of motion. Labral tears are also very common.
The idea is that because of this mechanical error of the hip, it causes you to use other areas in the pelvic region to achieve the multi-directional changes needed in elite competition. That change/ over-exertion then leads to athletic pubalgia better known as a sports hernia. Basically, because of the lack of mobility in the hip, your core muscles, primarily those in the groin area, are over worked, and tear -usually the tendon area -and cause the hernia. This leads to other muscles being over used/tearing and the domino effect of a sports hernia is under way...
Sorry for the book, but hope this helps some people understand this foreign language. - jak521
tldr; Giroux sucks and we really should be thinking about trading him. He never produces in the playoffs. As such, he doesn't leadership.
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Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Pavelski would have performed the surgery himself - PhillySportsGuy
He already tried to do the surgery but the doctors had to intervene |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO ANNOUNCE SURGERIES?!!!
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Hexy! |
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Marc D
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Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees Joined: 03.28.2008
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Hey jak
Is the detached pubic plate that Streit went through related to the femoral acetabulum impingement as well? Sounds pretty much like the same area as the sports hernia.
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Hey jak
Is the detached pubic plate that Streit went through related to the femoral acetabulum impingement as well? Sounds pretty much like the same area as the sports hernia. - Marc D
I was really hoping after Streit got healthy that I'd never hear the phrase detached pubic plate ever again... |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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Esteemed writer, Corey Pronman, released his top 100 prospects for the draft. Has Laine over Matthews and Keller at #4. |
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arichardson22
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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Esteemed writer, Corey Pronman, released his top 100 prospects for the draft. Has Laine over Matthews and Keller at #4. - PhillySportsGuy
Link por favor? |
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Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Hey jak
Is the detached pubic plate that Streit went through related to the femoral acetabulum impingement as well? Sounds pretty much like the same area as the sports hernia. - Marc D
If I may-
Little bit of fancy googling tells me Streit's injury is the culmination of micro-instability brought on wear and tear on hip stabilizers.
"Sporting activities that typically place large adverse torsional and/or shear loads across the symphysis (e.g. ‘cutting’ and kicking in football, Fig 8) predispose to early degeneration with an associated loss of articular disc thickness and resilience"
Pubic instability can be caused by lots of things. Think of all the muscles and tendons and ligaments innervating there. Any unilateral damage to anything associated with hip movement could cause micro-instability. Eventually it's too much and you have a detached plate.
I'm not an expert on a&p and my gf isn't answering right now, so as far as FAI goes- I mean I'd imagine that could at the very least contribute to unilateral instability which would further predispose you. But I'd rather have Jak to jump in on that one. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Esteemed writer, Corey Pronman, released his top 100 prospects for the draft. Has Laine over Matthews and Keller at #4. - PhillySportsGuy
So right about the Flyers choice BPA would be either Luke Kunin (C), Mikhail Sergachyov (D), Tyler Benson (LW) and Jake Bean (D). The only ones I've heard of are the two D men and really either would be an OK choice if we went BPA. |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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Hey jak
Is the detached pubic plate that Streit went through related to the femoral acetabulum impingement as well? Sounds pretty much like the same area as the sports hernia. - Marc D
So his is really a different area. He was suffering from something that is actually fairly common in women who are in late stage pregnancy or just post partum, as well as football players and hockey players.
Its really kinda complex. Yes, some refer to it as a form of a "sports hernia", but his is the linkage between the pelvis bones, called the pubic symphysis. He tore the ligament that holds the bones together.
No, its not related to an FAI. The groin is such an intricate and complex area.
His injury is much different from what Claude's weak ass is going through. His was a more traumatic based injury from a sheering aspect, whereas G's is a chronic issue.
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As I see above, you can have these as a chronic onset as well, but usually you have severe limitations leading up to the detachment. I think the sudden onset of Streits issues, to me at least, would lead me to believe it was a sudden trauma. |
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copelal
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Location: Baltimore, MD Joined: 03.12.2014
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"Wonder who will be next we hear about injury. Makes you wonder how the series could have gone if we had a healthy Giroux. Hope the summer allows him a healthy recovery"
Yes - considering we had G, Jake, Coots, and Del Zotto all hurt in some fashion - and Mason effectively run down because of his necessary overuse late in the regular season - it's kind of amazing we even got to 6 games vs. the Caps. A credit to the coach and all the players, really. |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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So right about the Flyers choice BPA would be either Luke Kunin (C), Mikhail Sergachyov (D), Tyler Benson (LW) and Jake Bean (D). The only ones I've heard of are the two D men and really either would be an OK choice if we went BPA. - dragonoffrost
Pronman values forwards more than defenseman because he believes they affect the game more. He also puts a high degree of value on hockey IQ, skill and speed. Places very little emphasis on size unless the player uses it to his advantage. Also, GMs around the league will bump a guy up if he's closer to being NHL. Pronoun's rankings are more based on how good a player will be. A guy like Tkachuk is more NHL ready than Keller, but Keller probably has more upside (he's a about a year younger than Tkachuk). |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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So right about the Flyers choice BPA would be either Luke Kunin (C), Mikhail Sergachyov (D), Tyler Benson (LW) and Jake Bean (D). The only ones I've heard of are the two D men and really either would be an OK choice if we went BPA. - dragonoffrost
Luke Kunin could be a stud. Kid is good.
Future Considerations - "A slick and solid overall centre that plays hard in all three zones. Has some exlposive feet and tremendous speed generated in only a few quick strides. His shot is on and off his blade in only a split second and shows outstanding velocity and accuracy. He also shows impressive reads of developing plays and the vision and creativity to make a play out of nothing. Does not slouch defensively as he comes back and disrupts the opponents attack. A slick possession player with quick hands and a quicker mind."
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Marc D
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Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees Joined: 03.28.2008
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"Wonder who will be next we hear about injury. Makes you wonder how the series could have gone if we had a healthy Giroux. Hope the summer allows him a healthy recovery"
Yes - considering we had G, Jake, Coots, and Del Zotto all hurt in some fashion - and Mason effectively run down because of his necessary overuse late in the regular season - it's kind of amazing we even got to 6 games vs. the Caps. A credit to the coach and all the players, really. - copelal
It is amazing.
But Alzner for sure and probably some other Caps were playing through injuries as well.
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Luke Kunin could be a stud. Kid is good.
Future Considerations - "A slick and solid overall centre that plays hard in all three zones. Has some exlposive feet and tremendous speed generated in only a few quick strides. His shot is on and off his blade in only a split second and shows outstanding velocity and accuracy. He also shows impressive reads of developing plays and the vision and creativity to make a play out of nothing. Does not slouch defensively as he comes back and disrupts the opponents attack. A slick possession player with quick hands and a quicker mind." - jak521
Works for me |
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