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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 13 @ 11:23 AM ET
we really gotta cut the cord on girardi.. all anyone can say when they defend him is "look at all hes done for this team" ya that's very true but you cant run a successful team like that.
- mrn22


I honestly would like to see what he has to offer next year, and if this year was because of injuries or what not. Boys have a nice long summer to heal up and get back into shape for training camp.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

May 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
I honestly would like to see what he has to offer next year, and if this year was because of injuries or what not. Boys have a nice long summer to heal up and get back into shape for training camp.
- mdw7413

You are soft and exactly what is wrong with the Rangers fan base

Every team that contended for the Cup but didn't win it always said "one more year" for players in their core which has only resulted in further decline. Every one of these teams wait too long before they cut the cord with players. Look at the Canucks, the Bruins, the Kings.

F Girardi
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 13 @ 11:32 AM ET
Richards has a long way to go to catch up to Stevens. I mean Stevens was doing coke while he was playing. Thats going on like a 30 year stretch to now.
- mdw7413


Coke? He was doing facking crack
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
Coke? He was doing facking crack
- Vukota


Couldn't remember, just figured with his salary he could get something a little less stepped on.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

May 13 @ 11:35 AM ET
You are soft and exactly what is wrong with the Rangers fan base

Every team that contended for the Cup but didn't win it always said "one more year" for players in their core which has only resulted in further decline. Every one of these teams wait too long before they cut the cord with players. Look at the Canucks, the Bruins, the Kings.

F Girardi

- rangerdanger94


^^

Couldn't agree more.

Need to act more like the Patriots on this one.. let a guy go 1 year too early is much better than a year too late which is already the case with Girardi. enough with the loyalty.. gotta get some fresh blood into the core
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 13 @ 11:37 AM ET
You are soft and exactly what is wrong with the Rangers fan base

Every team that contended for the Cup but didn't win it always said "one more year" for players in their core which has only resulted in further decline. Every one of these teams wait too long before they cut the cord with players. Look at the Canucks, the Bruins, the Kings.

F Girardi

- rangerdanger94


Has nothing to do with being soft, you cockgobbler.

The fact that he regressed so much in a year leads me to believe it had more to do with injuries then Girardi getting a year older. If they don't buy him out I'm not going to cry like a little female dog.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
It must suck being unemployed and being all alone because no one can stand you. Having so much time on your hands that you spend an entire day criticizing, mocking, ridiculing and insulting total strangers (your friends) on a Ranger blog..
If you need some extra cash, hold a sign up on a freeway ramp and I'll drive by and toss you a few bills.... tee hee
Cant wait for your intelligent response....

- nyrsucks

mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
^^

Couldn't agree more.

Need to act more like the Patriots on this one.. let a guy go 1 year too early is much better than a year too late which is already the case with Girardi. enough with the loyalty.. gotta get some fresh blood into the core

- mrn22



..and who would replace him? Spend $$$ on a UFA? Like? I'm done with Yandle and his inability to actually play defense.

I too think an injury or three hampered Girardi this past season. Broken kneecap, concussion...that not enough to say "okay...the guy played hurt...and didn't do it well".

Give him next year to see what he has going.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 13 @ 11:48 AM ET
^^

Couldn't agree more.

Need to act more like the Patriots on this one.. let a guy go 1 year too early is much better than a year too late which is already the case with Girardi. enough with the loyalty.. gotta get some fresh blood into the core

- mrn22


So every year we just buyout players or try to trade them if they had a down year? Doesn't sound like a great strategy.

It has nothing to do with "loyalty". Has to do with, who are you replacing Girardi with? It better be a veteran. And a cheap one at that. You really want to start the season with an unproven McIlrath and another unproven defenseman on the right side?



smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 13 @ 11:49 AM ET
So every year we just buyout players or try to trade them if they had a down year? Doesn't sound like a great strategy.

It has nothing to do with "loyalty". Has to do with, who are you replacing Girardi with? It better be a veteran. And a cheap one at that. You really want to start the season with an unproven McIlrath and another unproven defenseman on the right side?

- mdw7413



Boyle coming out of retirement E4.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 13 @ 11:51 AM ET
Boyle coming out of retirement E4.
- smellmyfinger


I said "veteran", not ancient...
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 13 @ 11:53 AM ET
I said "veteran", not ancient...
- mdw7413



Zidlicky is a UFA.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

May 13 @ 11:57 AM ET
So every year we just buyout players or try to trade them if they had a down year? Doesn't sound like a great strategy.

It has nothing to do with "loyalty". Has to do with, who are you replacing Girardi with? It better be a veteran. And a cheap one at that. You really want to start the season with an unproven McIlrath and another unproven defenseman on the right side?

- mdw7413


Give me Graves, Mcilrath and Skjei next year. buy out Girardi, let yandle walk and boyle retire. time to promote from within and let some cheap ELC's work their way up

You guys act like Girardi is going to magically return to pre2014.. its not like last year was just a down year, hes been trending that way. if he sucks again next year itll be "oh just one more year" blah blah blah
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 13 @ 11:58 AM ET
Zidlicky is a UFA.
- smellmyfinger


I'm thinking a reunion with Rozy.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
You are soft and exactly what is wrong with the Rangers fan base

Every team that contended for the Cup but didn't win it always said "one more year" for players in their core which has only resulted in further decline. Every one of these teams wait too long before they cut the cord with players. Look at the Canucks, the Bruins, the Kings.

F Girardi

- rangerdanger94

But then look at teams like the Sharks and Blues this year. All those early failures and everyone said to blow it up. They kept majority of the core in tact, added around it and look at them now. It works both ways.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 13 @ 12:00 PM ET
So every year we just buyout players or try to trade them if they had a down year? Doesn't sound like a great strategy.

It has nothing to do with "loyalty". Has to do with, who are you replacing Girardi with? It better be a veteran. And a cheap one at that. You really want to start the season with an unproven McIlrath and another unproven defenseman on the right side?

- mdw7413



I agree with you here. We all saw him struggle a bit, but what really constitutes such a labeling of a terrible year for him? He is a defensive d-man. Played in a system which every d-man struggled with all season. His stats are 74 games, 2 goals, 15 assists and +/- of a +18 (second on the team to only McD's +26).

I don't want to hear that +/- doesn't mean anything because people these days jerk off to corsi and dumb sh!t stats like that which do not exist on the back of a hockey card.

Rangers will most likely have McI and Skjei starting next season. That's a third of your defense being rookies (or close to it...not sure if McIlrath played enough games yet to lose his rookie status...wasn't Krieder a "rookie" for like three seasons?). You really think it's going to improve things on defense if you bring in another new face? That would be half your d-men being (fairly) new to the system.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

May 13 @ 12:01 PM ET
But then look at teams like the Sharks and Blues this year. All those early failures and everyone said to blow it up. They kept majority of the core in tact, added around it and look at them now. It works both ways.
- TPC


well they saw the writing on the wall regarding dan boyle.. Rangers in the same spot with Girardi except its even more obvious
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 13 @ 12:01 PM ET
Give me Graves, Mcilrath and Skjei next year. buy out Girardi, let yandle walk and boyle retire. time to promote from within and let some cheap ELC's work their way up

You guys act like Girardi is going to magically return to pre2014.. its not like last year was just a down year, hes been trending that way. if he sucks again next year itll be "oh just one more year" blah blah blah

- mrn22



Half of your defense being rookies? That would mark a rebuilding year then.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 13 @ 12:03 PM ET
well they saw the writing on the wall regarding dan boyle.. Rangers in the same spot with Girardi except its even more obvious
- mrn22

I think its a little different. Boyle was a UFA a the time, a lot easier to walk away from that. Girarid is 6 years younger then what Boyle was then as a UFA and Girardi is in the 2nd year of a 5 year or whatever deal. Rangers face penalties to get rid of him, Sharks could do it for free.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 13 @ 12:03 PM ET
Give me Graves, Mcilrath and Skjei next year. buy out Girardi, let yandle walk and boyle retire. time to promote from within and let some cheap ELC's work their way up

You guys act like Girardi is going to magically return to pre2014.. its not like last year was just a down year, hes been trending that way. if he sucks again next year itll be "oh just one more year" blah blah blah

- mrn22


Nope, he had a cracked knee cap and concussion.
2nd I don't care if they buy him out or not. I will tell you if you want two rookies playing the right side in one of the toughest positions, better be prepared to give up a poop ton of goals.

I would say the addition of a shoot first talented winger is way more important to the teams success than Girardi being bought out or not.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

May 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
Nope, he had a cracked knee cap and concussion.
2nd I don't care if they buy him out or not. I will tell you if you want two rookies playing the right side in one of the toughest positions, better be prepared to give up a poop ton of goals.

I would say the addition of a shoot first talented winger is way more important to the teams success than Girardi being bought out or not.

- mdw7413





Finally....
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

May 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
So every year we just buyout players or try to trade them if they had a down year? Doesn't sound like a great strategy.

It has nothing to do with "loyalty". Has to do with, who are you replacing Girardi with? It better be a veteran. And a cheap one at that. You really want to start the season with an unproven McIlrath and another unproven defenseman on the right side?

- mdw7413

If we keep Girardi were gonna be complaining 10 games into the season that AV is constantly playing him 25 minutes a night and McIlrath only 9 mins a night even though McIlrath will clearly be outplaying him on a nightly basis. And then it's gonn be 72 more games of that and people whining on Twitter and this board that AV plays favorites too much and then were gonna lose in the playoffs again because Girardi pulls a Hamrlik. F that F Girardi and F U
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
What is the difference of buying out Girardi this offseason compared to next offseason in terms of cap? Cause if the Rangers don't need the cap space this summer why not give him one more chance
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

May 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
Nope, he had a cracked knee cap and concussion.
2nd I don't care if they buy him out or not. I will tell you if you want two rookies playing the right side in one of the toughest positions, better be prepared to give up a poop ton of goals.

I would say the addition of a shoot first talented winger is way more important to the teams success than Girardi being bought out or not.

- mdw7413

Was our problem really offense last year? Everyone wants that shiny winger but let's be honest. Our issue was defense. We need to focus on improving the defense before we move assets or use cap space on forwards.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
I agree with you here. We all saw him struggle a bit, but what really constitutes such a labeling of a terrible year for him? He is a defensive d-man. Played in a system which every d-man struggled with all season. His stats are 74 games, 2 goals, 15 assists and +/- of a +18 (second on the team to only McD's +26).

I don't want to hear that +/- doesn't mean anything because people these days jerk off to corsi and dumb sh!t stats like that which do not exist on the back of a hockey card.

Rangers will most likely have McI and Skjei starting next season. That's a third of your defense being rookies (or close to it...not sure if McIlrath played enough games yet to lose his rookie status...wasn't Krieder a "rookie" for like three seasons?). You really think it's going to improve things on defense if you bring in another new face? That would be half your d-men being (fairly) new to the system.

- mames11



Yup. I want the team to succeed. Has nothing to do with this strawman people keep bringing up about loyalty.

Funny no one bringing up Staal. Three years younger, was healthy all year and had a worse year.
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