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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
And Brad May has a Stanley Cup ring...


He may be their best player, but when guys like Orpik, Chorney, Weber are all getting time on the back end, they're already (frank)ed...

- lumlums



Orpik had good #'s this year.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 12 @ 11:24 AM ET
Orpik had good $'s this year.
- Garnie


Fixed
orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

May 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
Mcdavid
Mathews
Laine
Eichel (Although because he's a center I'd be tempted to move him above Laine)
Marner
Puljijarvi
Hanifin
Strome

- PlatosRepucklic



Mcdavid
Mathews
Eichel
Hanifan
Strome
Puljijarvi
Laine
Marner
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
Even Lums?







Hi Lums

- Steven_Seagull


Ignore Comrade French. In Soviet Russia, life (frank)ed him
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 12 @ 11:29 AM ET
Ignore Comrade French. In Soviet Russia, life (frank)ed him
- lumlums



He does sounds like a defeated man. A real shame...
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 12 @ 11:31 AM ET
Fixed
- lumlums


Pretty sure his Corsi was over 50

I'm driving and can't really look it up right now
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
But "generational talent" ECHL had 56 points. He's the bestest playa
- Steven_Seagull


Eichel dominated the entire universe.

He is looking for new dimensions of reality to dominate, as we speak.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
In other "the world has gone crazy" news, James Tanner, who many of you remember as the guy who think the game of hockey can be explained through a spreadsheet, is now arguing that the single greatest determinant of success is luck.

So why even bother with advanced stats?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
In other "the world has gone crazy" news, James Tanner, who many of you remember as the guy who think the game of hockey can be explained through a spreadsheet, is now arguing that the single greatest determinant of success is luck.

So why even bother with advanced stats?

- Atomic Wedgie



Another fine example of a Tannerism.
Chardcore709
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Passion That Unites Us All , NF
Joined: 10.03.2006

May 12 @ 11:38 AM ET
The leafs should have gotten Maata or Murray or the likes in this Kessel deal or not have taken any of his salary. I understand if the penguins didn't want to give up a great prospect but there getting a top 20 in the league point production guy with a wicked shot! He lacks work ethic and is afraid to go in the corners on defense but teams still need his dynamic offensive abilities.
They should have gotten more, harrington is never going to pan into anything, spaling is a middle of the road lower end player that they did get draft picks for but still no real loss to pittsburgh. And Kapanen has improved since joining the leafs but chances are he'll be a third line player at best. He's not cracking the top 6 on a contender. As for the draft pick that's hit or miss but the leafs put in the clause that if the penguins didn't make the playoff's they wouldn't even get that. A first round pick was a know brainer in this deal, just look at the other players over the past couple years that have been traded with 1st round picks included. Kessel is definitely as good as if not better then anyone on this list. If they were going to include silly conditions like this there should have also been one that says if they make the stanley cup finals they get next years 1st round pick as well.
To put in perspective people are saying okposo is going to get upwards of 6 million plus for 6-7 years. If some team is crazy enough to do that then getting a player as dynamic offensively as Kessel for 5.5 million a year is a steal for the pens.
No hard feelings to Phil he was a liability at times and definitely wasn't cut out to be the face of the franchise with all the pressures in Toronto but I still really like the guy and wish him all the best on this playoff run. Takes for your years of service and best of luck!
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 12 @ 11:41 AM ET
The leafs should have gotten Maata or Murray or the likes in this Kessel deal or not have taken any of his salary. I understand if the penguins didn't want to give up a great prospect but there getting a top 20 in the league point production guy with a wicked shot! He lacks work ethic and is afraid to go in the corners on defense but teams still need his dynamic offensive abilities.
They should have gotten more, harrington is never going to pan into anything, spaling is a middle of the road lower end player that they did get draft picks for but still no real loss to pittsburgh. And Kapanen has improved since joining the leafs but chances are he'll be a third line player at best. He's not cracking the top 6 on a contender. As for the draft pick that's hit or miss but the leafs put in the clause that if the penguins didn't make the playoff's they wouldn't even get that. A first round pick was a know brainer in this deal, just look at the other players over the past couple years that have been traded with 1st round picks included. Kessel is definitely as good as if not better then anyone on this list. If they were going to include silly conditions like this there should have also been one that says if they make the stanley cup finals they get next years 1st round pick as well.
To put in perspective people are saying okposo is going to get upwards of 6 million plus for 6-7 years. If some team is crazy enough to do that then getting a player as dynamic offensively as Kessel for 5.5 million a year is a steal for the pens.
No hard feelings to Phil he was a liability at times and definitely wasn't cut out to be the face of the franchise with all the pressures in Toronto but I still really like the guy and wish him all the best on this playoff run. Takes for your years of service and best of luck!

- Chardcore709


You can't say they should of gotten more. Don't you think they tried?? Kessel gave them a list of teams he was willing to be traded to and they were all teams in cap hell. Retaining salary was a must in any deal. For all we know the pens may have been the only one with serious interest.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 12 @ 11:41 AM ET
Mcdavid
Mathews
Eichel
Hanifan
Strome
Puljijarvi
Laine
Marner

- orienbrady22


LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
Eichel dominated the entire universe.

He is looking for new dimensions of reality to dominate, as we speak.

- Aetherial

Should easily win the Calder...oh wait...
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 12 @ 11:45 AM ET

- Santo_44

yeah, WTF
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 12 @ 11:45 AM ET
AHL suspends Dan Kelly 10 games for his hit on Johnson

http://theahl.com/ahl-announces-suspension-p202515
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 12 @ 11:45 AM ET
Pretty sure his Corsi was over 50

I'm driving and can't really look it up right now

- Garnie


(frank)ING PUT DOWN YOUR PHONE AND PUT YOUR EYES ON THE (frank)ING ROAD!!!
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
You can't say they should of gotten more. Don't you think they tried?? Kessel gave them a list of teams he was willing to be traded to and they were all teams in cap hell. Retaining salary was a must in any deal. For all we know the pens may have been the only one with serious interest.
- Santo_44


22 days after Kyle "I don't have enough experience yet to be an NHL GM" Dubas made that deal Lou Lams was hired to be GM.

In retrospect, it may have been a good idea to be a little more patient. I guess the argument was that since the deal was made Jul. 1st, Pitt needed it done so they could focus on the vast talent available as UFA instead?

It reminds me of when the Jays needed to trade the best pitcher in the game during the offseason, so they promoted a 30 something former mailroom worker to do it. They received a number of prospects, all of which amounted to next to nothing.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 12 @ 11:48 AM ET
Eichel dominated the entire universe.

He is looking for new dimensions of reality to dominate, as we speak.

- Aetherial



That would explain why he's not with the USA team
orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

May 12 @ 11:49 AM ET

- Santo_44




All great prospects.

I see Marners game having the most difficulty transitioning to the NHL level, he doesn't have great speed for a guy his size and i don't see the stuff he pulls off in Junior working in the NHL. I also see his stock being inflated this year by playing on one of the best lines in OHL history. Dvorak and Tkachuk are future studs in there own right.

That said he could go on to be the second best player of the group behind Mcdavid if he can transition well. His vision and hands are off the charts good.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
AHL suspends Dan Kelly 10 games for his hit on Johnson

http://theahl.com/ahl-announces-suspension-p202515

- lumlums




Good.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

May 12 @ 11:51 AM ET
(frank)ING PUT DOWN YOUR PHONE AND PUT YOUR EYES ON THE (frank)ING ROAD!!!
- lumlums

auto pilot
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 12 @ 11:51 AM ET
22 days after Kyle "I don't have enough experience yet to be an NHL GM" Dubas made that deal Lou Lams was hired to be GM.

In retrospect, it may have been a good idea to be a little more patient. I guess the argument was that since the deal was made Jul. 1st, Pitt needed it done so they could focus on the vast talent available as UFA instead?

- 1979AD


You guys focus too much on stats

That value of the culture change that occurred once kessel was moved is what was worth the most to the leafs. They needed to make a immediate trade to show players, staff, sponsors, and fans that the shanahan rebuild was real.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 12 @ 11:51 AM ET
Should easily win the Calder...oh wait...
- LeafMan

The NHL has announced the Hodgson Award.

Awarded annually to the guy most deserving of rookie of the year, but didn't win it because the NHL are a bunch of mean poopy-heads.

Winner will be selected annually by secret ballot of Hockeybuzz voters, which will then be ignored, and Wedgie will decide.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
You guys focus too much on stats

That value of the culture change that occurred once kessel was moved is what was worth the most to the leafs. They needed to make a immediate trade to show players, staff, sponsors, and fans that the shanahan rebuild was real.

- Dozzer

DID YOU JUST CALL US TANNERISTS?!?!?

SCREW YOU, ICE-HOLE!!!!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 12 @ 11:54 AM ET
All great prospects.

I see Marners game having the most difficulty transitioning to the NHL level, he doesn't have great speed for a guy his size and i don't see the stuff he pulls off in Junior working in the NHL. I also see his stock being inflated this year by playing on one of the best lines in OHL history. Dvorak and Tkachuk are future studs in there own right.

That said he could go on to be the second best player of the group behind Mcdavid if he can transition well. His vision and hands are off the charts good.

- orienbrady22


Babcock will teach Marner what does and what does not work in the NHL.

The kid most certainly has the skill.... The concern here is will he be strong enough to absorb the physicalality of the NHL. This summer will be all about getting stronger for Marner, not bigger, but stronger.
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