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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 10 @ 2:02 PM ET
I think I would rather us use our first to try to get Nichushkin from Dallas
- dominik7777


How about just keeping it and drafting a superior player instead?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 10 @ 2:08 PM ET
How about just keeping it and drafting a superior player instead?
- Tomahawk



They could.

I guess I am not a huge fan of this draft after the top 3 guys.

If I could get someone like Trouba I am all for using the first in that situation.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 10 @ 2:14 PM ET
They could.

I guess I am not a huge fan of this draft after the top 3 guys.

If I could get someone like Trouba I am all for using the first in that situation.

- J35Bacher


I personally would like to hold onto our picks. I forget who exactly said it here, but someone here said a couple of times this draft could be a year where a lot of "steals" or "hidden gems" may be in the later 1st round to mid 2nd round with the drop off in talent after the big names. And that has intrigued me since. Having said that, my mind could change come draft day what to do with our picks. If we move any picks, I hope it involves moving up in the draft.

NOTE: If you are the poster who commented what I am referring to, please confirm I am quoting you correctly. And even explain why you think/said this
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 10 @ 2:17 PM ET
I understand the thinking but I think Trouba has top pair skills which is something hard to find. Add him to Provorov and you have a potential top all situations pair.
- J35Bacher



Why are they going to trade him then?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 10 @ 2:19 PM ET
I personally would like to hold onto our picks. I forget who exactly said it here, but someone here said a couple of times this draft could be a year where a lot of "steals" or "hidden gems" may be in the later 1st round to mid 2nd round with the drop off in talent after the big names. Having said that, my mind could change come draft day what to do with our picks. If we move any picks, I hope it involves moving up in the draft.

NOTE: If you are the poster who commented what I am referring to, please confirm I am quoting you correctly. And even explain why you think/said this

- arichardson22



Wasn't me.

I think after the top 3 there are a lot of interchangeable guys depending on the teams needs at that point in the draft.

It's why I would use the 1st in a chance to get Trouba if it presented itself.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 10 @ 2:21 PM ET
Why are they going to trade him then?
- MJL



Lots of reports of him wanting close to 7 million and WPG having trouble with the new Buff deal and other things.

My feeling is it is kind of the same thing Hamilton did. Reports of wanting a large number so he could be moved. Remember things said about Hamilton and then he signed for like 5.75 cap hit.

That's my feeling. I think it is a US kid saying pay me x amount to stay. I know he is RFA this year.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
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May 10 @ 2:26 PM ET
Wasn't me.

I think after the top 3 there are a lot of interchangeable guys depending on the teams needs at that point in the draft.

It's why I would use the 1st in a chance to get Trouba if it presented itself.

- J35Bacher


I think if I'm moving the 1st I rather acquire a forward RFA, but that's mainly because of our d prospects and lack of scoring. I personally don't know an actual trade that would get Trouba in terms of fair value, but if the deal involved one of Morin or Sanheim with our 1st, I guess I would put my desire for a forward over a dman aside since we would be losing one.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 10 @ 2:30 PM ET
I think if I'm moving the 1st I rather acquire a forward RFA, but that's mainly because of our d prospects and lack of scoring. I personally don't know an actual trade that would get Trouba in terms of fair value, but if the deal involved one of Morin or Sanheim with our 1st, I guess I would put my desire for a forward over a dman aside since we would be losing one.
- arichardson22



I understand.

I am not sure Nichushkin is worth a first right now. He hasn't really blown up like some have thought.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
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May 10 @ 2:35 PM ET
I understand.

I am not sure Nichushkin is worth a first right now. He hasn't really blown up like some have thought.

- J35Bacher


Perhaps we could entertain with a deal involving prospect and our 2nd(s) for him? I do like his size and him being 21.

The two obvious RFA forwards I like are Schwartz and Hoffman. Both older and smaller, but are both LWS and certainly know how to put the puck in the back of the net.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 10 @ 2:39 PM ET
I know a lot of people arent a fan of Gary Bettman but that speech was as good as anything I have read in a long time.

Powerful, detailed and in general evocative.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 10 @ 2:40 PM ET
on one hand I really like the blues. respect them. and root for hitch and several of their players are very likable. On the other hand...if they lose this round I think all hell could break loose on their roster. it is a perfect storm with all the work they have to do to get people signed. could throw the NHL for a loop if they want to shake things up
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 10 @ 2:43 PM ET
I think I would rather us use our first to try to get Nichushkin from Dallas
- dominik7777


I've watched pretty much every game of Nichushkin's NHL career to this point. He could put all the pieces together at some point, but he's a bit of a frustrating player at times so far.

Also, he has not always responded well to Lindy Ruff's tough-love approach; doesn't understand that it's being done not to pick on him but to push him to be a more consistent player.

arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
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May 10 @ 2:44 PM ET
on one hand I really like the blues. respect them. and root for hitch and several of their players are very likable. On the other hand...if they lose this round I think all hell could break loose on their roster. it is a perfect storm with all the work they have to do to get people signed. could throw the NHL for a loop if they want to shake things up
- YuenglingJagr


This is part why I posted on the earlier blog why STL could be a player for Stamkos. Could have some serious shake up and let some UFAs walk and trade Shatty. Could you imagine Stamkos and Tarasenko
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
This is part why I posted on the earlier blog why STL could be a player for Stamkos. Could have some serious shake up and let some UFAs walk and trade Shatty. Could you imagine Stamkos and Tarasenko
- arichardson22


there is only 1 puck to shoot
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

May 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
How about just keeping it and drafting a superior player instead?
- Tomahawk


Sorry. All picks must be spent on overrated, under achieving NHLers.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
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May 10 @ 2:46 PM ET
there is only 1 puck to shoot
- YuenglingJagr


If one of them shoots it hard enough, perhaps it could split into 2
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 10 @ 2:46 PM ET
Wasn't me.

I think after the top 3 there are a lot of interchangeable guys depending on the teams needs at that point in the draft.

It's why I would use the 1st in a chance to get Trouba if it presented itself.

- J35Bacher


Wait, so you want to trade for Trouba and sign Stamkos?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 10 @ 2:46 PM ET
Sorry. All picks must be spent on overrated, under achieving NHLers.
- PhillySportsGuy


it speeds up the process of having to develop them into that ourselves
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 10 @ 2:48 PM ET
I've watched pretty much every game of Nichushkin's NHL career to this point. He could put all the pieces together at some point, but he's a bit of a frustrating player at times so far.

Also, he has not always responded well to Lindy Ruff's tough-love approach; doesn't understand that it's being done not to pick on him but to push him to be a more consistent player.

- bmeltzer


No hockey sense. Ponikarovsky 2.0
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

May 10 @ 2:49 PM ET
it speeds up the process of having to develop them into that ourselves
- YuenglingJagr


I hear Eminger is available
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 10 @ 2:49 PM ET
Wait, so you want to trade for Trouba and sign Stamkos?
- PhillySportsGuy



Sure.

But I understand that if one happens the other probably can't.

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 10 @ 2:51 PM ET
Sure.

But I understand that if one happens the other probably can't.

- J35Bacher


depends what gets traded
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 10 @ 2:57 PM ET
depends what gets traded
- YuenglingJagr


I think on top of Read and Streit being moved, that one of Schenn and Simmonds would have to go too. Obviously Amac but that aint happening
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 10 @ 3:02 PM ET
I think on top of Read and Streit being moved, that one of Schenn and Simmonds would have to go too. Obviously Amac but that aint happening
- arichardson22



I think MacDonald could be moved if your willing to eat some salary. Just depends on how much your looking to eat.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 10 @ 3:03 PM ET
Sure.

But I understand that if one happens the other probably can't.

- J35Bacher


Don't understand why you're so obsessed with Trouba. He's not really special in any way and he'd cost the team a bunch in terms of money and draft picks to acquire.
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