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chriscornell
Location: free yan
Joined: 01.30.2011

May 9 @ 1:58 PM ET
big fan of the live through this album, eric.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 9 @ 2:30 PM ET
A lot of people are putting bishop in the top 5 goalies category. He's put together a string of great seasons now and he will be getting PAID in a couple years.

1. Price
2. Lundqvist
3,4,5 Holtby, Bishop, Quick

I'm sure I'm missing someone here.

- Njuice

Quick is not top 5 and yeah you missed Schneider.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 9 @ 2:42 PM ET
Bish please has been an amazing starter for us. He just keeps finding ways to elevate his game. In all honesty it could cause a problem in the future with Vasilevskiy.
- Artyukhin76

no vasy is yzermans guys long term
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

May 9 @ 2:50 PM ET
no vasy is yzermans guys long term
- todd1a

I'm not sure anymore
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

May 9 @ 3:19 PM ET
Congrats Double EE. Will be weird without the Tribune around anymore. Look forward to the content.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 9 @ 3:57 PM ET
I'm not sure anymore
- Artyukhin76

Yzerman will go with the younger guy
BobTrost
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 02.09.2010

May 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
A lot of people are putting bishop in the top 5 goalies category. He's put together a string of great seasons now and he will be getting PAID in a couple years.

1. Price
2. Lundqvist
3,4,5 Holtby, Bishop, Quick

I'm sure I'm missing someone here.

- Njuice

As long as you don't care about playoffs!
UN5CSpartan117
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Joined: 05.09.2016

May 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
Yzerman will go with the younger guy
- todd1a


I'm not so sure. The reason you draft Vasy is to hope he develops into a #1. He isn't there yet, but he looks good. Bishop is a #1. Why bail on Bishop for a "good chance to be a #1" when you already have one?

All I'm saying is goalies are hard to project and regardless of how good Vasy looks why risk it? If the Lightning didn't trade for Bishop this team would be in a very different place. Personally I think Vasy may be traded as early as this years draft. The Lightning will lose one at the expansion draft, best to keep the sure thing.
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

May 9 @ 5:31 PM ET
I'm not so sure. The reason you draft Vasy is to hope he develops into a #1. He isn't there yet, but he looks good. Bishop is a #1. Why bail on Bishop for a "good chance to be a #1" when you already have one?

All I'm saying is goalies are hard to project and regardless of how good Vasy looks why risk it? If the Lightning didn't trade for Bishop this team would be in a very different place. Personally I think Vasy may be traded as early as this years draft. The Lightning will lose one at the expansion draft, best to keep the sure thing.

- UN5CSpartan117


Technically I think they can give Bishop a No-Move clause before this year and then resign Vasy and protect him but I highly doubt this happens. If the money is tight they go with Vasy, if they feel the money is there they go with Bishop imo.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

May 9 @ 5:54 PM ET
Technically I think they can give Bishop a No-Move clause before this year and then resign Vasy and protect him but I highly doubt this happens. If the money is tight they go with Vasy, if they feel the money is there they go with Bishop imo.
- stammerman

Don't resign your namesake, trade Filppula (retain 1m), Carle (retain 2m) and bobs your uncle, we have lots-o-cap-space.

If we do keep Bishop, another two years would be the most I'd do it for and that way Vasy could have ample time to develop.
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

May 9 @ 6:05 PM ET
A lot of people are putting bishop in the top 5 goalies category. He's put together a string of great seasons now and he will be getting PAID in a couple years.

1. Price
2. Lundqvist
3,4,5 Holtby, Bishop, Quick

I'm sure I'm missing someone here.

- Njuice

Forgot a few...
- Rask
- Schneider
- Luongo
- Condon (jk)
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

May 9 @ 6:09 PM ET
Technically I think they can give Bishop a No-Move clause before this year and then resign Vasy and protect him but I highly doubt this happens. If the money is tight they go with Vasy, if they feel the money is there they go with Bishop imo.
- stammerman

NO t sure it works that way... although nobody really knows as of yet.
Since Vasi has played two season by the time the expansion draft rolls around he would be eligible and if they were both signed to NMC i think they'd likely get slapped with tampering. IDK... can't see the League allowing such a loophole.
Ty Anderson
Editor
Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 9 @ 6:26 PM ET
Welcome, Erik.
TheConsiglierre
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 12.24.2011

May 9 @ 9:18 PM ET
no vasy is yzermans guys long term
- todd1a

todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 9 @ 11:52 PM ET
Don't resign your namesake, trade Filppula (retain 1m), Carle (retain 2m) and bobs your uncle, we have lots-o-cap-space.

If we do keep Bishop, another two years would be the most I'd do it for and that way Vasy could have ample time to develop.

- Artyukhin76

Depends if yzerman lets Stamkos walk he could sign bishop and trade vasy to the flames or oilers
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 10 @ 3:57 AM ET
Yzerman will go with the younger guy
- todd1a


For a franchise that has not had a true #1 goalie since Khabi it would really suck to trade a top5 goalie in the league. Vasy has been the plan all along, but how big are the chance that he really becomes better then Bishop?

The only thing in Vasys favour is that hes younger and cheaper. If we keep Stammer, i guess Bishop is gone.
Nolanders
New York Islanders
Location: Canada
Joined: 08.24.2007

May 10 @ 9:26 AM ET
Great goalie, no denying it. I remember when T-Bay snagged him up...great pick up.
UN5CSpartan117
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Joined: 05.09.2016

May 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
NO t sure it works that way... although nobody really knows as of yet.
Since Vasi has played two season by the time the expansion draft rolls around he would be eligible and if they were both signed to NMC i think they'd likely get slapped with tampering. IDK... can't see the League allowing such a loophole.

- mlindsay


I asked that question to both Erik and Joe Smith and if I recall correctly they both thought that one would be moved before the expansion draft anyway.

I really think that Bishop took money from Stamkos this year and he may now be the most important player to sign with Stamkos getting an offer with what's "leftover"
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

May 10 @ 12:20 PM ET
I asked that question to both Erik and Joe Smith and if I recall correctly they both thought that one would be moved before the expansion draft anyway.

I really think that Bishop took money from Stamkos this year and he may now be the most important player to sign with Stamkos getting an offer with what's "leftover"

- UN5CSpartan117

Stamkos is a great player, but he's not the more important player. Hedman, Bishop, Kucherov and Stralman.
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