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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 6 @ 4:51 PM ET
Sure, but since Pegula's taking over as owner, just off the top of my head

Richards
Parise
Suter
Babcock
That college guy Toronto signed

have all told us to suck it, and now we can add Caggiula to that list, and I'm sure there's more. After 4-5 years of Pegula's overhaul of the organization, it still seems like we're not much better a destination for UFA's.

- sskkoo1

Moulson signed here
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 6 @ 5:06 PM ET
Sure, but since Pegula's taking over as owner, just off the top of my head

Richards
Parise
Suter
Babcock
That college guy Toronto signed

have all told us to suck it, and now we can add Caggiula to that list, and I'm sure there's more. After 4-5 years of Pegula's overhaul of the organization, it still seems like we're not much better a destination for UFA's.

- sskkoo1

That has more to do with the city itself...
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 6 @ 5:07 PM ET
Food Truck Tacos...they are whats good today
- DDM-Coga



Nice to know you're still alive. Are you anywhere near the fires?
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 6 @ 5:11 PM ET

Heres the move:

Anaheim gets 2016 first round pick (8th overall), 2016 3rd, Tyler Ennis, Nick Baptiste and Mark Pysyk

Buffalo gets: Corey Perry, Cam Fowler

Buffalo signs Vesey

Vesey-Eichel-Perry
Kane-Oreilly-Reinhart
Foligno-Girgensons-Fasching
Moulson-Larsson-Gio/D-lo

Fowler-Risto
Mccabe-Bogo
Gorges-Nelson


(this is just for fun and I have no idea if this is even close to what it would take)




Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 6 @ 5:12 PM ET
Sure, but since Pegula's taking over as owner, just off the top of my head

Richards
Parise
Suter
Babcock
That college guy Toronto signed

have all told us to suck it, and now we can add Caggiula to that list, and I'm sure there's more. After 4-5 years of Pegula's overhaul of the organization, it still seems like we're not much better a destination for UFA's.

- sskkoo1


Richards wanted to play for the Rangers, Parise and Suter wanted to go home, Babcock is just a cock. I don't know the college guy you're speaking of.

You can't sign everyone. That's why you throw everything you can at everyone, and eventually something sticks.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 6 @ 5:17 PM ET
Heres the move:

Anaheim gets 2016 first round pick (8th overall), 2016 3rd, Tyler Ennis, Nick Baptiste and Mark Pysyk

Buffalo gets: Corey Perry, Cam Fowler

Buffalo signs Vesey

Vesey-Eichel-Perry
Kane-Oreilly-Reinhart
Foligno-Girgensons-Fasching
Moulson-Larsson-Gio/D-lo

Fowler-Risto
Mccabe-Bogo
Gorges-Nelson


(this is just for fun and I have no idea if this is even close to what it would take)

- MCGUIZZY


Not really even close, probably add another 1st from Buffalo, at least, and probably another 2nd or 3rd. Ennis is the enigma, what's his value? He's a proven 20 goal guy, but he's dealing with a concussion that made him miss 60 games. People say he sucked when he played, but he was right at his career average for points.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 6 @ 5:18 PM ET
Nice to know you're still alive. Are you anywhere near the fires?
- Wetbandit1


I'm alive and kicking it, just been busy, free time I have been golfing like a maniac.
Fires are very north of Calgary, but it still is crazy
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 6 @ 5:22 PM ET
Not really even close, probably add another 1st from Buffalo, at least, and probably another 2nd or 3rd. Ennis is the enigma, what's his value? He's a proven 20 goal guy, but he's dealing with a concussion that made him miss 60 games. People say he sucked when he played, but he was right at his career average for points.
- Wetbandit1



What is Fowlers value? Perry? Depends how down Anaheim is on them. Do they believe in Fowler? or do they believe hes replaceable with some of the young guys coming up. A top 10 pick may be very attractive to them if they love a player in that range
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

May 6 @ 5:23 PM ET
Heres the move:

Anaheim gets 2016 first round pick (8th overall), 2016 3rd, Tyler Ennis, Nick Baptiste and Mark Pysyk

Buffalo gets: Corey Perry, Cam Fowler

Buffalo signs Vesey

Vesey-Eichel-Perry
Kane-Oreilly-Reinhart
Foligno-Girgensons-Fasching
Moulson-Larsson-Gio/D-lo

Fowler-Risto
Mccabe-Bogo
Gorges-Nelson


(this is just for fun and I have no idea if this is even close to what it would take)

- MCGUIZZY

No thank you, Perry is soon to be 31 and with his style of play will decline quickly. He also makes 8.625 mil until he's 36. Fowler isn't bad but he's overrated and isn't the answer on our top pair. I'd rather have Lindholm. I'd be very unhappy if this deal ever happened.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 6 @ 5:29 PM ET
No thank you, Perry is soon to be 31 and with his style of play will decline quickly. He also makes 8.625 mil until he's 36. Fowler isn't bad but he's overrated and isn't the answer on our top pair. I'd rather have Lindholm. I'd be very unhappy if this deal ever happened.
- chilliard77



Understand the age concern on Perry. I just love him haha i think he and Eichel could be magic. Im not sure where the Lindholm talk has been coming from but I dont see him being moved at all. Fowler is our best bet I believe. Perry scored 34 goals last season at 30 years old...
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 6 @ 5:33 PM ET
Moulson signed here
- sbroads24


This sounds stupid at first..but if u think about it, he was KIND OF a big deal...i mean he's not stamkos...but he was a legit free agent at the time

EDIT: don't forget this was a guy who played on a line with Tavares
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 6 @ 5:34 PM ET
Understand the age concern on Perry. I just love him haha i think he and Eichel could be magic. Im not sure where the Lindholm talk has been coming from but I dont see him being moved at all. Fowler is our best bet I believe. Perry scored 34 goals last season at 30 years old...
- MCGUIZZY



A few months ago Friedman mentioned that the Ducks are likely to move whichever RFA d-man costs more to retain. That and the 89 of the other boards mentioned that he was "available".

They'd be nuts to move him, but we'd be even more nuts not to go after him.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

May 6 @ 5:35 PM ET
Understand the age concern on Perry. I just love him haha i think he and Eichel could be magic. Im not sure where the Lindholm talk has been coming from but I dont see him being moved at all. Fowler is our best bet I believe. Perry scored 34 goals last season at 30 years old...
- MCGUIZZY

I like Perry too, I just don't think he should be our main target at this point.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

May 6 @ 5:39 PM ET
Richards wanted to play for the Rangers, Parise and Suter wanted to go home, Babcock is just a cock. I don't know the college guy you're speaking of.

You can't sign everyone. That's why you throw everything you can at everyone, and eventually something sticks.

- Wetbandit1


Casey Bailey was the Toronto guy I was thinking of, but I think my point stands though. We have been pitching UFA's on Buffalo for a while now and have yet to land any. Sure, they might have personal reasons for signing with other towns, but hey we were sold that, "Pegula always gets his man," so fare he's at least 0-5.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 6 @ 5:40 PM ET
Casey Bailey was the Toronto guy I was thinking of, but I think my point stands though. We have been pitching UFA's on Buffalo for a while now and have yet to land any. Sure, they might have personal reasons for signing with other towns, but hey we were sold that, "Pegula always gets his man," so fare he's at least 0-5.
- sskkoo1



The beauty about this is that he only needs to land 1 and the rest will be forgotten. Just like Toronto and Babcock.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 6 @ 5:42 PM ET
I like Perry too, I just don't think he should be our main target at this point.
- chilliard77



Our main target should be an elite talent. Stamkos fits in that category but I dont know how likely that signing will be. Sure we can maybe sign a guy like Okposo but he is not an Elite player. Perry is elite and is up there in age but if we can get 3-4 more years of solid play out of him I would take that. (not saying hes necessarily avail)
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 6 @ 5:45 PM ET
A few months ago Friedman mentioned that the Ducks are likely to move whichever RFA d-man costs more to retain. That and the 89 of the other boards mentioned that he was "available".

They'd be nuts to move him, but we'd be even more nuts not to go after him.

- Sabresfan-365



Interesting. Makes sense that vatanen would be moved before lindholm. But if Fowler is moved then maybe both RFA's could be signed
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

May 6 @ 5:46 PM ET
Casey Bailey was the Toronto guy I was thinking of, but I think my point stands though. We have been pitching UFA's on Buffalo for a while now and have yet to land any. Sure, they might have personal reasons for signing with other towns, but hey we were sold that, "Pegula always gets his man," so fare he's at least 0-5.
- sskkoo1

Most of the time college free agent signings are pretty weak, so I'm not too worried about missing out on them.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 6 @ 5:47 PM ET
Casey Bailey was the Toronto guy I was thinking of, but I think my point stands though. We have been pitching UFA's on Buffalo for a while now and have yet to land any. Sure, they might have personal reasons for signing with other towns, but hey we were sold that, "Pegula always gets his man," so fare he's at least 0-5.
- sskkoo1



Casey Nelson was probably the most sought after college free agent d-man this season
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

May 6 @ 5:48 PM ET
The beauty about this is that he only needs to land 1 and the rest will be forgotten. Just like Toronto and Babcock.
- Sabresfan-365


True, maybe that one will be Stamkos, but guess I figured we'd be bigger players by this point.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

May 6 @ 5:51 PM ET
Casey Nelson was probably the most sought after college free agent d-man this season
- MCGUIZZY



I thought about Nelson, but I don't recall there being that big of a deal over him. I knew there were other teams interested, but it kind of seems like we signed him out of nowhere, we offered him the contract and he said okay.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 6 @ 5:52 PM ET
I'm alive and kicking it, just been busy, free time I have been golfing like a maniac.
Fires are very north of Calgary, but it still is crazy

- DDM-Coga


I remember now that you said you were from Calgary. I knew Alberta, but Alberta is huge, so I wasn't sure if you were near it or not. Golf season started pretty early here. We didn't get a whole hell of a lot of snow, so the courses are pretty dry already instead of the usual marshes until July. I hope to be able to get out this year, but with my back I'm not sure if I will... I bought a really nice set of brand new clubs 2 years ago and haven't been able to use them yet other than once at the range. I'm kind of trying to get rid of them, but don't really want to even though I know I probably should.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 6 @ 5:55 PM ET
I thought about Nelson, but I don't recall there being that big of a deal over him. I knew there were other teams interested, but it kind of seems like we signed him out of nowhere, we offered him the contract and he said okay.
- sskkoo1



I dont think you can really downplay that signing. He was definitely wanted by multiple teams. He chose the sabres. Hes a starting defenseman in the NHL that we didnt have to give up assets for. I consider that a win.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ielding-offers-nhl-teams/
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 6 @ 5:57 PM ET
Interesting. Makes sense that vatanen would be moved before lindholm. But if Fowler is moved then maybe both RFA's could be signed
- MCGUIZZY



Thing is, Fowler handles a lot of minutes for them at a pretty good price, doesnt make much sense for a budget team to want to move that.

My assumption is Vatanen as well but I don't know what his or Lindholms ask would be.

Edit: Years may be an issue as well
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

May 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
I dont think you can really downplay that signing. He was definitely wanted by multiple teams. He chose the sabres. Hes a starting defenseman in the NHL that we didnt have to give up assets for. I consider that a win.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ielding-offers-nhl-teams/

- MCGUIZZY


I also consider it a win, it's just that I personally don't recall a big contest for him, not that there wasn't teams interested. Caggiula and Vessy have been going on for a while now, Schulz in Edmonton was highly sought after, so was Blake Wheeler and Hayes. I just seems like Pegula and even the direction the Sabres are heading in doesn't hold the pull we all hoped for.
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