Arctic_AARDVARK
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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Get the (frank) out - twiztedmike
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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He got Schneider - NHL ready number one on almost any team - for a number 7 pick - he can get one of the two Duck goalies for cheaper. - winsix
You don't get credit for fleecing the Canucks of a goalie.
Anyone can do it.
Even Florida. |
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WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone Joined: 04.17.2015
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And it's asinine, naive and incomprehensible to think that Atomic Wedgie does not want Carrie Underwood in his bed, naked and tipsy.
See what I did there? - Atomic Wedgie
I did.
So, if Lou has as much of a shot of acquiring a starting goalie as you do of getting Fisher's wife in the sac, then 2013 draft day must have been a fantastic time for you |
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t_leafs21
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Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON Joined: 07.26.2010
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Back to the D conversation:
What about Nielsen (righty) and Desrocher (lefty)? Both have size. Wondering what is their max potential?
Saw a bit of Desrocher in some O games online, he looked good. Haven't seen any of Nielsen though.
Side note: I really like Harrington when he was up. Can't put my finger on it exactly but I have a feeling we are under rating him.
Carrick is going to be a good one.
Reilly, Harrington
Gardiner, Carrick
Nielsen, Zaitsev
Desrocher
???? - underhill14
Nielsen is a big left-handed d-man that can skate and score. I'd project him as a very good 2nd or 3rd pairing d-man in the end
Dermott is the same way but a little more creative offensively. We have two very good prospects there
Harrington will never be a top pairing guy. He's got less potential then the two above mentioned
I don't think Desrocher has a future in the NHL. He looked good cause he was a 20 year old playing against younger kids. He'll have alot to prove on the Marlies
If I had to do a long term projection Id say
Dermott - Rielly
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Nielsen - Carrick
Harrington - Valiev
Were also going to be drafting ALOT of d-men in the next two drafts as well |
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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jimi james
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Location: Somewhere Between Joined: 07.17.2010
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You don't get credit for fleecing the Canucks of a goalie.
Anyone can do it.
Even Florida. - Atomic Wedgie
speaking of recycling |
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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And it's asinine, naive and incomprehensible to think that Atomic Wedgie does not want Blair Underwood in his bed, naked and tipsy.
See what I did there? - Atomic Wedgie
Fixed for accuracy!
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WingmanWillie
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Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone Joined: 04.17.2015
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Fixed for accuracy!
- .HOHO.
And this is why Wedgie does not set men straight |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Fixed for accuracy!
- .HOHO.
He was so hot in L A Law.
Ummm, I mean, how dare you, .HoHo.?!?! |
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underhill14
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Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool Joined: 06.02.2010
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Nielsen is a big left-handed d-man that can skate and score. I'd project him as a very good 2nd or 3rd pairing d-man in the end
Dermott is the same way but a little more creative offensively. We have two very good prospects there
Harrington will never be a top pairing guy. He's got less potential then the two above mentioned
I don't think Desrocher has a future in the NHL. He looked good cause he was a 20 year old playing against younger kids. He'll have alot to prove on the Marlies
If I had to do a long term projection Id say
Dermott - Rielly
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Nielsen - Carrick
Harrington - Valiev
Were also going to be drafting ALOT of d-men in the next two drafts as well - t_leafs21
Very nice analysis and appreciated. Thanks.
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lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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I hope he didn't get recycled. - Atomic Wedgie
I think that he got an extended visit from the banhammer... |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I think that he got an extended visit from the banhammer... - lumlums
Really?
Freaky?
He didn't strike me as the super-troll type. |
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sloppyseconds2
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: cambridge, ON Joined: 01.02.2012
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Really?
Freaky?
He didn't strike me as the super-troll type. - Atomic Wedgie
The only thing he is banned from is the buffet. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I think that he got an extended visit from the banhammer... - lumlums
his account isnt banned... just checked |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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his account isnt banned... just checked - Dozzer
Fountain_san ate him. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Some one on here was saying this the other day
James Mirtle (@mirtle)
2016-05-05, 4:27 PM
The Leafs could also try to own two AHL teams. I was told this would be theoretically be permitted. More ice time for prospects?
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lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Really?
Freaky?
He didn't strike me as the super-troll type. - Atomic Wedgie
(frank), no sorry... I'm getting my wires crossed.
It's okay. I've just procured another coffee |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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The only thing he is banned from is the buffet. - sloppyseconds2
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Some one on here was saying this the other day
James Mirtle (@mirtle)
2016-05-05, 4:27 PM
The Leafs could also try to own two AHL teams. I was told this would be theoretically be permitted. More ice time for prospects? - burn
That doesn't seem legal... |
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Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL Joined: 08.14.2010
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It's the forwards fault for not supporting the D's, it's the goalies fault for allowing weak goals. - Symba007
No one's fault, just an unfortunate set of circumstances. |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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That doesn't seem legal... - AdamFrench
If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tyrin’ |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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That doesn't seem legal... - AdamFrench
Neither does robidas island,But Lou....... |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Lou's recent record of drafting goalies:
2013, 7th round: Anthony Brodeur (!)
2010, 6th round: Maxime Clermont
2005, 2nd round: Jeff Frazee
2004, 6th round: Josh Disher
2003, 6th round: Jason Smith
2000, 5th round: Matus Kostur
1999, 1st round: Ari Ahonen
1997: 1st round Jean-Francois Damphousse
1997, 8th round: Scott Clemmensen
So for the past 20 years, the best goalie Lou selected was Clemmensen - in the 8th round.
Any chance we are over-rating Lou's mystic abilities to select goalies? - Atomic Wedgie
Drafting goalies is generally a crap shoot - Just ask the Islanders who drafted DiPietro 1st overall and gave him a lifetime contract - that was a smelly one.
Top 11 goalies (modern era and an arguable list - draft began in 1963)
Price (5th overall) 2005 ROUND 1
Dryden (14th overall) 1964 ( by Boston) six team league - ROUND 3
Hasek (199th overall) 1983 ROUND 10 (by Chicago)
Brodeur (20th overall) 1990 ROUND 1
Roy (54th overall) 1984 ROUND 3
Fuhr (8th overall) 1981 ROUND 1
Esposito (undrafted) 1968
Parent (undrafted) 1969
Vachon (undrafted) 1968
Lunquist (205th overall) ROUND 7
Belfour (undrafted) 1989
Not a high percentage move to take a goalie high. And in they develop slow in general. I would judge too many GM's on their goalie drafting abilities from the above list.
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Fountain_san ate him. - AdamFrench
with fava beans no doubt |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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That doesn't seem legal... - AdamFrench
hard to ice 3 teams with a 50 contract limit
or does a one way AHL contract not count against that? |
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