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Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

May 4 @ 2:44 PM ET
It was interference.. and it was a lot worse than some of the calls they are making on Casey C... but no Islander fan is blaming that non call in OT on this loss. In OT they don't make a lot of calls... We should have won the game in Regulation.
- niteislander


I guess I don't understand the interference. You can hit guys with the puck and a second after they release the puck which, looking at the replay, is what happened. Mind you I don't even think the Islanders were complaining it was late, they were complaining it was a headshot.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 4 @ 2:44 PM ET
How was it plain and simple interference? The NHL allows you to hit the guy about a second after he releases the puck which is what Boyle did. If you think that was interference I bet you can go back and watch other hits both teams put on and find many more that happened after the puck was moved.
- Kucherovski

Come on man please just go away. You made enough of a fool of yourself last night. Even your own fan base hates you and finds you irritating. Hickey didn't have the puck and was interfered with. You're not going to change my mind in fact I firmly believe you're a (frank)ing idiot at this point and I don't really care what you have to say and I think I speak for everyone else when I say they don't care what you have to say either. You're like a Pittsburgh fan but almost more annoying.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 4 @ 2:46 PM ET
I guess I don't understand the interference. You can hit guys with the puck and a second after they release the puck which, looking at the replay, is what happened. Mind you I don't even think the Islanders were complaining it was late, they were complaining it was a headshot.
- Kucherovski

No you don't. Shocker
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

May 4 @ 2:47 PM ET
Come on man please just go away. You made enough of a fool of yourself last night. Even your own fan base hates you and finds you irritating. Hickey didn't have the puck and was interfered with. You're not going to change my mind in fact I firmly believe you're a (frank)ing idiot at this point and I don't really care what you have to say and I think I speak for everyone else when I say they don't care what you have to say either. You're like a Pittsburgh fan but almost more annoying.
- Cptmjl


At least you make logical arguments with facts to back up your points. Boyle did not hit Hickey too late, they showed it with slow motion time and it was within the, unwritten 0.6 seconds after he passed the puck. Based on facts you're wrong but you can keep saying it was interference, maybe if you type it enough it will be true.

Go look at the Drouin hit then, Drouin moves the puck, trying to slide it between Hickeys legs, THEN gets hit so according to you that is interference because Drouin did not have the puck on his stick at the time of contact.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

May 4 @ 2:49 PM ET
Boyle was already committed to the hit and followed through within the parameters of 0.6 seconds that the league has apparently considered a legal time frame for contact. Apparently Letang's hit was 0.63 seconds, and he took a sharp change in angle to finish contact, Boyle was constant through.

I figured many people (Tampa fans) would complain for the Drouin hit because he did get his face smacked and was leaking, but Hickey came through the body and Drouin while making a move lowered his face/head for incidental contact.

I have enjoyed the Islanders push this playoff, I didnt think they would win in the first round but your team is very scrappy and I like the intensity

Good breakdown of the hits here too: http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...legal-bodychecks-1.483549

- WhiteLie


http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en...es/2014-2015-rulebook.pdf It was interference.. and they don't call it in OT. Let's move on.. the only ones who are talking about it is the Non-Islanders fans. No where in the rule book does it say .6 seconds.. but it sounded good.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 4 @ 2:49 PM ET
It was interference.. and it was a lot worse than some of the calls they are making on Casey C... but no Islander fan is blaming that non call in OT on this loss. In OT they don't make a lot of calls... We should have won the game in Regulation.
- niteislander

Exactly. I can care less about the hit but the moron you are responding too will force a debate whether you want to or not. Probably one of the more draining posters on this site.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 4 @ 2:50 PM ET
At least you make logical arguments with facts to back up your points. Boyle did not hit Hickey too late, they showed it with slow motion time and it was within the, unwritten 0.6 seconds after he passed the puck. Based on facts you're wrong but you can keep saying it was interference, maybe if you type it enough it will be true.

Go look at the Drouin hit then, Drouin moves the puck, trying to slide it between Hickeys legs, THEN gets hit so according to you that is interference because Drouin did not have the puck on his stick at the time of contact.

- Kucherovski

OK you big hockey fan you. I've learned so much from you today. I've never seen a legit interference penalty before I stand corrected.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 4 @ 2:51 PM ET
Boyle was already committed to the hit and followed through within the parameters of 0.6 seconds that the league has apparently considered a legal time frame for contact. Apparently Letang's hit was 0.63 seconds, and he took a sharp change in angle to finish contact, Boyle was constant through.

I figured many people (Tampa fans) would complain for the Drouin hit because he did get his face smacked and was leaking, but Hickey came through the body and Drouin while making a move lowered his face/head for incidental contact.

I have enjoyed the Islanders push this playoff, I didnt think they would win in the first round but your team is very scrappy and I like the intensity

Good breakdown of the hits here too: http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...legal-bodychecks-1.483549

- WhiteLie



To me, with the exception of it being in different areas of the ice, and at different angles, the Letang and Boyle hit are the same. Both are interference too
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

May 4 @ 2:53 PM ET
OK you big hockey fan you. I've learned so much from you today. I've never seen a legit interference penalty before I stand corrected.
- Cptmjl


If you ever have facts post them, otherwise if you throw enough out it will stick. Hey what happened to the link you posted last night or this morning that was crying about Boyle giving a headshot? You quickly removed it but why??
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

May 4 @ 2:53 PM ET
I guess I don't understand the interference. You can hit guys with the puck and a second after they release the puck which, looking at the replay, is what happened. Mind you I don't even think the Islanders were complaining it was late, they were complaining it was a headshot.
- Kucherovski


The puck was gone. .. Boyle turned into him and layed him out. If it was not OT it would have been a penalty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQH0OQSo7mw
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 4 @ 2:54 PM ET
I guess I don't understand the interference. You can hit guys with the puck and a second after they release the puck which, looking at the replay, is what happened. Mind you I don't even think the Islanders were complaining it was late, they were complaining it was a headshot.
- Kucherovski



Hickey didnt have the puck, and the hit interfered with him getting into the play. Thats plain and simple interference.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
If you ever have facts post them, otherwise if you throw enough out it will stick. Hey what happened to the link you posted last night or this morning that was crying about Boyle giving a headshot? You quickly removed it but why??
- Kucherovski

The link wouldn't post properly that's why I removed it you (frank)ing moron. I didn't write the article you (frank)ing dip shat it was the hockey news that did. Why don't you read it maybe you'll learn something?
I have a fact for you. Nobody likes you not even your fellow Tampa fans that's why you post here. There's a fact. Nobody likes you there it is. How does that feel?
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

May 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2014-2015-rulebook.pdf It was interference.. and they don't call it in OT. Let's move on.. the only ones who are talking about it is the Non-Islanders fans. No where in the rule book does it say .6 seconds.. but it sounded good.
- niteislander


NHL said, based on Letang hit, the NHL provides a "brief window during which a player who initiates a hit while the opponent is in possession of the puck can legally finish the hit." No they do not specifically say a amount of time but it is exactly what happened last night.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
The puck was gone. .. Boyle turned into him and layed him out. If it was not OT it would have been a penalty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQH0OQSo7mw
- niteislander



I dont think its a coincidence that the hit happened. The minute Hickey steamrolled Drouin, he had a target on his back. As soon as Boyle realized who it was it turned right into him and took him out.
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

May 4 @ 2:57 PM ET
The link wouldn't post properly that's why I removed it you (frank)ing moron. I didn't write the article you (frank)ing dip shat it was the hockey news that did. Why don't you read it maybe you'll learn something?
I have a fact for you. Nobody likes you not even your fellow Tampa fans that's why you post here. There's a fact. Nobody likes you there it is. How does that feel?

- Cptmjl


Keep trying, the link posted fine, I clicked on it and read it. Anytime you're ready to post interference facts that would be great.
slapshot018
New York Islanders
Location: 4, NY
Joined: 08.04.2011

May 4 @ 2:59 PM ET
At least you make logical arguments with facts to back up your points. Boyle did not hit Hickey too late, they showed it with slow motion time and it was within the, unwritten 0.6 seconds after he passed the puck.



i would love to see this video. i find it very very hard to believe that the hit came within .6 after the puck was passed.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 4 @ 2:59 PM ET
Keep trying, the link posted fine, I clicked on it and read it. Anytime you're ready to post interference facts that would be great.
- Kucherovski

OK it didn't it wasn't highlighted. Why do you think I would take it down? For fear of retribution from you? Oh I'm so scared. You're so (frank)ing stupid

Did you read the article that The Hockey News wrote. You know the professional writers who write about hockey. You know more than them to don't you?
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 4 @ 3:00 PM ET
C'mon now, he's a Rags fan, gotta make allowances.

Having said that, I am still trying to dissect this sentence in the blog: "...His decision of putting his top line out there with under a minute was a first guess...." I'm thinking the word "guess" was inserted by autocorrect and not the word intended by Noel? At least that would be my first guess.

- JohnScammo



I only attack the stragglers who never really come here or anywhere else, at least he could come with some logic..???
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
At least you make logical arguments with facts to back up your points. Boyle did not hit Hickey too late, they showed it with slow motion time and it was within the, unwritten 0.6 seconds after he passed the puck.



i would love to see this video. i find it very very hard to believe that the hit came within .6 after the puck was passed.

- slapshot018

He's going to show you a still frame gif. He's so smart.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
Clean hit? he had already release the puck and the point of contact was the head? The puck was by the far blueline by the time Boyle laid into hickey.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2014-2015-rulebook.pdf It was interference.. and they don't call it in OT. Let's move on.. the only ones who are talking about it is the Non-Islanders fans. No where in the rule book does it say .6 seconds.. but it sounded good.
- niteislander


I didn't pull the numbers out of thin air, its been established through precedence. Bob Mackenzie and the others on TSN and Sportsnet have commented saying it was borderline interference based on previous discipline issued by the NHL, it was very very close to late and like you said in OT they aren't going to call something that close. I'm not trying to start anything, just commenting that it wasnt as clear to being interference
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
Keep trying, the link posted fine, I clicked on it and read it. Anytime you're ready to post interference facts that would be great.
- Kucherovski



Ur funny, u seem to come back for more.....
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
At least you make logical arguments with facts to back up your points. Boyle did not hit Hickey too late, they showed it with slow motion time and it was within the, unwritten 0.6 seconds after he passed the puck.



i would love to see this video. i find it very very hard to believe that the hit came within .6 after the puck was passed.

- slapshot018



WTF is this .6 second nonsense?
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

May 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
OK it didn't it wasn't highlighted. Why do you think I would take it down? For fear of retribution from you? Oh I'm so scared. You're so (frank)ing stupid
- Cptmjl


I don't know why, that's why I asked. Why not post it again then, fix it and post it? Again interference facts please. Based on real life, based on what the NHL said about the Letang hit, based on the fact at least 15 times during the game yesterday players were getting hit after moving the puck. If you get called for interference everytime you go hit someone and they pass the puck there is going to be an awful lot of penalties.
WhatAboutBawb
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.20.2013

May 4 @ 3:03 PM ET
I thought it was clean. Tough to say it was embellished, as it would sting like a b*tch to get rocked like that.

Some great hockey going on in this series. Best of luck to NYI.
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