Pixote Andolini
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Location: South Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.23.2007
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Maybe, maybe not. If they can move Streit and Read, even if they have to give them away, they may be able to keep Schenn too. - BiggE
I may have said this before - I don't think Streit is moveable at all. Maybe bundled with 1st round pick(s) possibly. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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I may have said this before - I don't think Streit is moveable at all. Maybe bundled with 1st round pick(s) possibly. - Pixote Andolini
1 year of Streit needs to be bundled with a first? You're mixing him up with AMac I think. I don't think they should trade him because he was not as bad as people made him out to be, even if his offense declined. And I think/hope several months of recovery can bring him back to where he was earlier in the year. And then you package him at the deadline for a nice chunk of change. No point selling low when there's a chance to sell higher. Not to mention he actually does provide a lot of leadership for the younglings. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I may have said this before - I don't think Streit is moveable at all. Maybe bundled with 1st round pick(s) possibly. - Pixote Andolini
I didn't think that Lecavalier or Pronger were moveable, either, but they moved both without including a 1st or 2nd rounder. Even got good return on the Pronger deal. |
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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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I may have said this before - I don't think Streit is moveable at all. Maybe bundled with 1st round pick(s) possibly. - Pixote Andolini
He is probably moveable if the Flyers take back salary or if he goes to a team seeking the floor (there are still teams trying to make the salary floor, right?), I'm just not sure that the terms of such a deal would be noticeably beneficial to the Flyers.
How important is it in the grand scheme of things to get out from under this last year of Streit's contract?
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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He is probably moveable if the Flyers take back salary or if he goes to a team seeking the floor (there are still teams trying to make the salary floor, right?), I'm just not sure that the terms of such a deal would be noticeably beneficial to the Flyers.
How important is it in the grand scheme of things to get out from under this last year of Streit's contract? - Doc_Sarcasm
It's not, unless they want to make a splash in UFA, which I doubt they will. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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1 year of Streit needs to be bundled with a first? You're mixing him up with AMac I think. I don't think they should trade him because he was not as bad as people made him out to be, even if his offense declined. And I think/hope several months of recovery can bring him back to where he was earlier in the year. And then you package him at the deadline for a nice chunk of change. No point selling low when there's a chance to sell higher. Not to mention he actually does provide a lot of leadership for the younglings. - Mononoke
I agree completely. The possibility of Streit rebounding, and coming back healthy exists.
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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It's fairly unlikely that a player like Stamkos (young, top goal scorer) will be available as a UFA in a few years. If you want one, now may be the only time this decade to get one.
I'm not advocating either way, but they probably won't have the option of adding a player like Stamkos in a couple of years. - jmatchett383
I agree and I'm torn about him. Imho, they're not ready to be able to take full advantage of having a guy like that. Even with him I don't think they'll truly be "Cup ready" for at least 3-4 years. However, it would probably be fun to watch him score like a bazillion goals, but is the cap hit worth it?
I'm torn, but if pressed I'd probably pass, thinking more could be done with the financial resources he'd require. |
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TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA Joined: 06.13.2013
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I hope they bury the hatchet if he doesn't become a Flyer, which is unlikely to happen. But for the sake of argument, in the 5% chance he doesn't come to Philly, it makes them all look better to have gotten over their nasty quarrel, and it probably gives Drouin a taste of humble pie. With Stamkos possibly gone to Philly, they will need some offensive help and a more mature Drouin can help.
Of course with Stamkos and Drouin coming to the Flyers, this is all hypothetical. - Mononoke
Goodbye 'King's East'. They just need to poach Stralman and a few of Cooper's assistants to become 'Lightning of the Mid-Atlantic'. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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It's fairly unlikely that a player like Stamkos (young, top goal scorer) will be available as a UFA in a few years. If you want one, now may be the only time this decade to get one.
I'm not advocating either way, but they probably won't have the option of adding a player like Stamkos in a couple of years. - jmatchett383
In some ways I disagree with that statement. The NHL is becoming a younger mans game and 18 year old rookies seem to becoming more popular. This could lead to more leaving after their 7 years of team control expire |
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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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Even with him I don't think they'll truly be "Cup ready" for at least 3-4 years. - Scoob
This is why I'm not concerned about shedding salary this upcoming season. If they have enough cap space to pay their core assets, sign their RFA's and enough to add useful pieces, I'm ok with that. I don't need to see the Flyers take a Moon Shot at getting the Cup this year. Help is on the way, and fiscal sanity has already taken root and its benefits will be reaped in the coming years.
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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This is why I'm not concerned about shedding salary this upcoming season. If they have enough cap space to pay their core assets, sign their RFA's and enough to add useful pieces, I'm ok with that. I don't need to see the Flyers take a Moon Shot at getting the Cup this year. Help is on the way, and fiscal sanity has already taken root and its benefits will be reaped in the coming years. - Doc_Sarcasm
Right. Stick with The Plan. |
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Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Goodbye 'King's East'. They just need to poach Stralman and a few of Cooper's assistants to become 'Lightning of the Mid-Atlantic'. - TobyFlenderson
I had a poached Stralman for lunch |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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In some ways I disagree with that statement. The NHL is becoming a younger mans game and 18 year old rookies seem to becoming more popular. This could lead to more leaving after their 7 years of team control expire - YuenglingJagr
I think you'll see more Schenn/Lucic type guys hit the UFA market, but the top tier guys like Stamkos/Crosby/Ovechkin/etc. will be few and far between. In my opinion. |
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TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA Joined: 06.13.2013
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I had a poached Stralman for lunch - Mononoke
How was it? My cafeteria tends to overcook the Hedman. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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I may have said this before - I don't think Streit is moveable at all. Maybe bundled with 1st round pick(s) possibly. - Pixote Andolini
How about Streit + Morin to Arizona for a 7th rounder? Think that would be enough? |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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How was it? My cafeteria tends to overcook the Hedman. - TobyFlenderson
I've had better. I was going to try the Cooked Carle, but my co-worker told me it gave him diarrhea |
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TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA Joined: 06.13.2013
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I've had better. I was going to try the Cooked Carle, but my co-worker told me it gave him diarrhea - Mononoke
Dude, the Carle expired like three years ago! Apparently some eccentric billionaire in Florida tried to transform it but ended up turning it into an expensive anchor. |
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I honestly remember watching that Leafs series and just thinking "this is why playoff hockey is the greatest thing" ..
Heavy, physical, fast, skilled, intense..everything that you want to watch as a fan. - opeth_pa
Everything that hockey use to be. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Excellent choice.
Questionable. Joe Hicketts was robbed. |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Love him.
LOVE him. - Mononoke
Hicketts was robbed. What a joke |
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Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Hicketts was robbed. What a joke - Just5
I edited my post just as you wrote that. I'm glad someone else thought so. |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Everything that hockey use to be. - MikesPillBottle
Yup..Times have changed for sure..
Letang gets 1 game for a hit that other than being a half second late you can argue wasnt dirty.
That hit on Kapanen now would have gotten Tucker 10+ games. |
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sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hoboken, NJ Joined: 01.28.2016
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Stamkos isn't the prototypical number 1 center in today's NHL anymore. I don't see the same leadership and prowess in the dot that I do with the likes of the Toews, Backstrom's, and Giroux's of the league. No doubt he can put the puck in the net. What he's going to get on this - the biggest payday of his career I want nothing to do with. - Pixote Andolini
it would however give you two centers, one who is a sniper/goal scorer/pp guy and another who does it all, scorer (albeit to a lesser extent)/playmaker/PK guy/1st unit PP guy/captain/heart and soul player. also would allow coots to slide back in 3rd center spot.
I know there a bunch of adages in hockey, build from the net out, having strong centers, etc. Having G, Stamkos, Coots down the middle of your team, already with Mason/Neuvy in your net, and Ghost/Provy/Sanheim/Morin/Hagg/Myers in the pipeline with MDZ and Gudas already up, and a Travis Konecny waiting in the wings. I think that makes us an instant contender and in a couple years, we have the veteran guys we need in their late 20's early 30's (G, Jake, Simmer, Stamkos, Raffl, Mason, MDZ), the second tier guys in their mid 20's (Coots, Schenn, Laughton, Cousins, Gudas, Ghost), and the new guys already with a season or two under their belt (Sanheim, Provy, Morin, Hagg, Konecny, Leier?, Fazleev?, Lindblom?).
seems like a perfect storm to me |
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