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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Bob Hartley Fired, More Caggiula, Giants Move to Langley
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 3 @ 3:01 PM ET
They are paid partners so they have to be onboard or no new contract
- VANTEL


Maybe TL and JB should partner up with 1040 so they can get a little support?

I think Bro Jake is best buddies with Toigo so I wasn't really surprised this morning, but was just listening to Sekeres and the love fest just rolls on...
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 3 @ 3:01 PM ET
From what I seen him play he could compete against Sven
- VANTEL

from what i've seen i think baertschi only gets better and overtakes daniel as the top LW on the team starting next season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 3 @ 3:06 PM ET
from what i've seen i think baertschi only gets better and overtakes daniel as the top LW on the team starting next season.
- kaptaan

Daniel had a good year 27 goals, slow second half though. I hope Sven scores close to that
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 3 @ 3:08 PM ET
Maybe TL and JB should partner up with 1040 so they can get a little support?

I think Bro Jake is best buddies with Toigo so I wasn't really surprised this morning, but was just listening to Sekeres and the love fest just rolls on...

- hillbillydeluxe

I wonder if there is an AHL team coming to play on Renfrew, maybe a Vegas or Seattle affilite
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 3 @ 3:09 PM ET


Letang only gets 1 Game.



Trotz is going to F'n explode when he finds out, knowing to the fact that Orpik got 3.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 3 @ 3:09 PM ET
I liked his initial comments, "we earned this"... what an embarrassment....
- kaptaan

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
I'm mixed on my opinion of this move. I'm not in Vancouver, so going to Giants games were low on my priority because of getting there wasnt very convenient, though I like the entertainment value of watching them play live. I also think that the communities are a little underserved in Surrey, Langley, Aldergrove for that kind of entertainment. BCHL does a decent job (Rivermen actually had top in-house production for that level because of the LEC), but the Giants will bring that next level and definitely bring more of these associations out to the rink on a regular basis. The downside is that its a smaller rink and well outside Vancouver. 5k attendance just seems small for the WHL and a steep drop for what has been a very successful franchise. I hope they maintain a regular schedule with the Coliseum and not just 2-3 games per year. Its really fun to go back in that rink from time to time despite commuting from Surrey
- WhiteLie


When I was listening earlier, there was a caller who spoke about his experience taking his wife to see a Langley Rivermen game and it being a great fan experience. Sekeres was all about it being a great move by the Giants but didn't really want to talk about the impact to the LRM team.

It is just interesting, hearing the different media spin. Different treatment to different organizations and sports.

I enjoy hearing callers that call the radio personalities on their inconsistencies.

I wish the Giants all the best.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 3 @ 3:15 PM ET
I wonder if there is an AHL team coming to play on Renfrew, maybe a Vegas or Seattle affilite
- VANTEL


The lease and expenses passed on to the main tenant doesn't sound too attractive if they are stuck paying for repairs caused by raves or other events.

Vancouver or a surrounding municipality needs a 10k (+/- a couple k) seat venue.

I do think an AHL club could be a better draw than the Giants tho, especially when the Comets come to play.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 3 @ 3:26 PM ET
If Vancouver did have a 7500 seat arena for the Comets I am sure it could sell out.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 3 @ 3:30 PM ET
If Vancouver did have a 7500 seat arena for the Comets I am sure it could sell out.
- VANTEL


If that arena was on a skytrain route, I think they would do well.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 3 @ 3:30 PM ET
If Vancouver did have a 7500 seat arena for the Comets I am sure it could sell out.
- VANTEL

i disagree. i think the notion that vancouver is a "hockey town," is greatly exaggerated.

vancouver has enough money and fans to support 2 professional teams as long as they are winning and playing an exciting brand of hockey.

unfortunately, that is not likely nor is it smart to business plan that expectation.

the problem is that vancouver is too expensive when things aren't going optimally, which in professional sports (as in life) is to be expected.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 3 @ 3:35 PM ET
i disagree. i think the notion that vancouver is a "hockey town," is greatly exaggerated.

vancouver has enough money and fans to support 2 professional teams as long as they are winning and playing an exciting brand of hockey.

unfortunately, that is not likely nor is it smart to business plan that expectation.

the problem is that vancouver is too expensive when things aren't going optimally, which in professional sports (as in life) is to be expected.

- RealityChecker

Usually when one team is doing bad (NHL) the other is doing well (AHL). Which mitigates risk for the franchise.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
From what I seen him play he could compete against Sven
- VANTEL


Best case scenario is he is able to translate his abilities to the NHL like Matt Read, Erik Condra or Matt Calvert but I think it is more likely he ends up as a AHL/NHL tweener. Very few college FA make an impact in the NHL.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
i disagree. i think the notion that vancouver is a "hockey town," is greatly exaggerated.

vancouver has enough money and fans to support 2 professional teams as long as they are winning and playing an exciting brand of hockey.

unfortunately, that is not likely nor is it smart to business plan that expectation.

the problem is that vancouver is too expensive when things aren't going optimally, which in professional sports (as in life) is to be expected.

- RealityChecker

There needs to be a 15,000 seat arena in the Surrey/ Langley area that would attract all kinds of entertainment acts. I'd suggest around the Surrey Central Skytrain station.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Letang only gets 1 Game.



Trotz is going to F'n explode when he finds out, knowing to the fact that Orpik got 3.

- classic321

Aaron Rome suspended for 4 SCF games on a marginal late hit.... Letang 1 game in the first round...
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
Usually when one team is doing bad (NHL) the other is doing well (AHL). Which mitigates risk for the franchise.
- pker2theend

i understand your point but i don't think that a "successful" ahl franchise would generate all that much profit. certainly not enough to come close to mitigating the risk to the parent franchise.

in terms of putting an ahl in the city (metro van not necessarily van proper), i think that the extraneous benefits i.e. sharing facilities/services/personnel/prospect tracking etc are good enough for the canucks to do so (while eating the losses).

in terms of a strictly financial decision, i don't think it's viable especially if it's not a vancouver canucks' affiliate.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 3 @ 3:53 PM ET
Best case scenario is he is able to translate his abilities to the NHL like Matt Read, Erik Condra or Matt Calvert but I think it is more likely he ends up as a AHL/NHL tweener. Very few college FA make an impact in the NHL.
- belcherbd

This.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 3 @ 3:53 PM ET
From what I seen him play he could compete against Sven
- VANTEL


I am all for competition in the summer for spots!
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
There needs to be a 15,000 seat arena in the Surrey/ Langley area that would attract all kinds of entertainment acts. I'd suggest around the Surrey Central Skytrain station.
- kaptaan

i don't necessarily disagree. the issue is going to be finding a sugar daddy who has a long term vision and can sustain the short term losses to build an arena and attract a jr/ahl team.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=2072245

Pretty accurate for our needs.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
i disagree. i think the notion that vancouver is a "hockey town," is greatly exaggerated.

vancouver has enough money and fans to support 2 professional teams as long as they are winning and playing an exciting brand of hockey.

unfortunately, that is not likely nor is it smart to business plan that expectation.

the problem is that vancouver is too expensive when things aren't going optimally, which in professional sports (as in life) is to be expected.

- RealityChecker

This is just me , but I would rather spend 40 bucks to take the wife to go see future hopefuls, than spending 200 for a game that I can watch in the comforts of my home
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
Best case scenario is he is able to translate his abilities to the NHL like Matt Read, Erik Condra or Matt Calvert but I think it is more likely he ends up as a AHL/NHL tweener. Very few college FA make an impact in the NHL.
- belcherbd

unless benning signs him and he turns into a top 6 impact forward, benning should be fired.

#assetmanagement #prospectdevelopment #freakout #riot #we'realldoomed
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
I hated watching Shanny, Chevy and Davidson standing there like they "earned" something. Your teams stunk. Still jealous though.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 3 @ 3:58 PM ET
This is just me , but I would rather spend 40 bucks to take the wife to go see future hopefuls, than spending 200 for a game that I can watch in the comforts of my home
- VANTEL

as would most of us on hockeybuzz. i'm not sure we're the representatives of the majority of "sports/hockey fans," around town. i just see the canucks as having 10-12k fans plus another 5-10K who will spend money for a fun night. those fans don't really care about the hockey but are there for the spectacle.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 3 @ 4:04 PM ET
Best case scenario is he is able to translate his abilities to the NHL like Matt Read, Erik Condra or Matt Calvert but I think it is more likely he ends up as a AHL/NHL tweener. Very few college FA make an impact in the NHL.
- belcherbd


True.

Remember when the top UFA NCAA prospects were Danny DeKeyser and Kellan Lain? Dekeysey has been a big part of the success in DET, so I think it is very much worth the risk.
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