Boudreau is over-rated? Isn't he like the hightest winning % coach in league history lol
- AlfieisKing

That's why I feel he's overrated (sorry if that's difficult for you to figure out?). He hasn't coached teams of the Sens calibre in the NHL. Winning percentage isn't everything. A lot of guys would have pretty successful years given the rosters he has been given.

The guy has 8 divisional titles and 0 conference titles or Stanley Cups. I just don't fully understand the parade to bring him to Ottawa so fast.

With all of this said, I do think he'd be an improvement from Cameron. He does have a good history of playing his best players in the best situations, which Cameron mishandled. I think he is a good coach, but not a great coach as many people on here seem to believe.

Maybe an Ottawa situation would be a good fit. Who knows. But people throwing out the winning percentage argument should look at the Sens current roster compared to the Caps and Ducks rosters he was coaching. We most likely won't be winning divisional titles unless some big roster moves are made with him at the helm.

I wouldn't jump off a bridge if he was named head coach, don't get me wrong, I just don't think he's miles better than other guys available.

I would stay FAR AWAY from Bruce, not because he is 0-4 in the last 4 years in Game 7's. That could happen to even the best coaches based on hot goalie, puck luck etc.

What scares me about him is that in all 4 of those 7 game series his team was the team up 3 games to 2. So not only has he lost all the game 7's...he has also lost all 4 of those Game 6's. That to me is a coaching issue and it is buyer beware on Bruce!

Avoid the re-treads and hire a young up and coming coach from the minors. It's working very well for likes of the Flyers and Devils (although the Devs record wasn't great this year, it did exceed expectations).
- Crushers68

Agree with the first half but disagree with the second half. Rookie coaches and Ottawa make a bad mixed drink.

That's why I feel he's overrated (sorry if that's difficult for you to figure out?). He hasn't coached teams of the Sens calibre in the NHL. Winning percentage isn't everything. A lot of guys would have pretty successful years given the rosters he has been given.

The guy has 8 divisional titles and 0 conference titles or Stanley Cups. I just don't fully understand the parade to bring him to Ottawa so fast.

With all of this said, I do think he'd be an improvement from Cameron. He does have a good history of playing his best players in the best situations, which Cameron mishandled. I think he is a good coach, but not a great coach as many people on here seem to believe.

Maybe an Ottawa situation would be a good fit. Who knows. But people throwing out the winning percentage argument should look at the Sens current roster compared to the Caps and Ducks rosters he was coaching. We most likely won't be winning divisional titles unless some big roster moves are made with him at the helm.

I wouldn't jump off a bridge if he was named head coach, don't get me wrong, I just don't think he's miles better than other guys available.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Ottawa and many other teams need to stop with the coaching carousel. It's not all ways the head coaches fault when a team fails. Give the man some more tools to work with. Scotty bowman couldn't do much with the sens roster. Is Boudreau a better coach then Dave Cameron? Winning percentage says yes, but Dave Cameron hasnt coached tip tier teams for the past decade like Boudreaux has. I do know he's not the best defensive coach and that's where the sens need the most help.

I'm still bent on bb getting axed - just FYI he took a ducks team from Carlyle that was 29th or 30th and total tire fire - won division - he has had to transition players, young goalies / young D and managed it superbly -
As far as playoffs go - against D that douche abdelkakter took out Tony Lydman no suspension and that was a big blow - Perry has gone Ofer in 2 of the last 4 yrs playoffs - that's Bruces fault ???? Manson got smoked this yr game 1 by forsberg - late / head shot / no suspension ... I mean come on -
Ottawa should hire him and don't look back - be the best thing they did since making the finals -

I see it said alot but still man I can't believe Sens weren't willing to move Ceci in any deal for Drouin..

I see it said alot but still man I can't believe Sens weren't willing to move Ceci in any deal for Drouin..
- ClarksonDavid

I brought up Drouin and his playoff performance on this thread before. No one seemed interested in discussing it, which I found odd. He is surely worth the higher end prices that where being thrown around. The kid can play.

I brought up Drouin and his playoff performance on this thread before. No one seemed interested in discussing it, which I found odd. He is surely worth the higher end prices that where being thrown around. The kid can play.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Yeah his skill is undeniable. Be interesting to see what happens with him and the lightning after the season. Depends with Stamkos too I suppose.

Yeah his skill is undeniable. Be interesting to see what happens with him and the lightning after the season. Depends with Stamkos too I suppose.
- ClarksonDavid

Ya. I'm sure Stamkos plays a part. Would be unlikely to see him and Drouin both go.

I'd offer up Chabot and 1st for Drouin to get talks started. I can understand why the Sens won't move Ceci. Looks like Stevey Y was smart to hold onto him rather than letting him go for less than market value at the time.

Ya. I'm sure Stamkos plays a part. Would be unlikely to see him and Drouin both go.

I'd offer up Chabot and 1st for Drouin to get talks started. I can understand why the Sens won't move Ceci. Looks like Stevey Y was smart to hold onto him rather than letting him go for less than market value at the time.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

That'd be a good package you would think. Chabot looks pretty nice, be interesting to see how he translates to the NHL.

Ottawa and many other teams need to stop with the coaching carousel. It's not all ways the head coaches fault when a team fails. Give the man some more tools to work with. Scotty bowman couldn't do much with the sens roster. Is Boudreau a better coach then Dave Cameron? Winning percentage says yes, but Dave Cameron hasnt coached tip tier teams for the past decade like Boudreaux has. I do know he's not the best defensive coach and that's where the sens need the most help.
- cburgess

Coming from guy who supports a team coached by Therrien. LOL

Ya. I'm sure Stamkos plays a part. Would be unlikely to see him and Drouin both go.

I'd offer up Chabot and 1st for Drouin to get talks started. I can understand why the Sens won't move Ceci. Looks like Stevey Y was smart to hold onto him rather than letting him go for less than market value at the time.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

i'd offer that and if it wasn't enough i'd walk away. Drouin has had a nice playoff for sure, but his career leading up to that.........2 mid-rd 1st's should be enough IMO.

if chabot and the 12th pick isn't enough then i don't want Drouin

I see it said alot but still man I can't believe Sens weren't willing to move Ceci in any deal for Drouin..
- ClarksonDavid

because moving Ceci for Drouin would be creating a bigger hole then it would be filling.

the sens don't NEED drouin, they're already one of the highest scoring teams in the league. The sens NEED a Ceci because they literally have NOBODY that is ready to take his place.

Ottawa and many other teams need to stop with the coaching carousel. It's not all ways the head coaches fault when a team fails. Give the man some more tools to work with. Scotty bowman couldn't do much with the sens roster. Is Boudreau a better coach then Dave Cameron? Winning percentage says yes, but Dave Cameron hasnt coached tip tier teams for the past decade like Boudreaux has. I do know he's not the best defensive coach and that's where the sens need the most help.
- cburgess

Boudreau didn't exactly have a "top tier" team in Washington. He had a couple of great players, and then basically a team of filler. The reason washington wasn't successful in the playoffs was because they were a 1 line team with almost no depth......plus they had a completely incompetent GM running the show for years.

Coming from guy who supports a team coached by Therrien. LOL
- TheCalSen

1. What the (frank) does that have to do with the conversation? 2. I don't support Terrien for future reference.

because moving Ceci for Drouin would be creating a bigger hole then it would be filling.

the sens don't NEED drouin, they're already one of the highest scoring teams in the league. The sens NEED a Ceci because they literally have NOBODY that is ready to take his place.
- sensarmy_11

Ottawa can score goals. They need to improve on their puck possession and they need to cut down on the goals against. We saw great improvement in Ceci as soon as he was partnered with Phaneuf at the end of the season. I like the look of an Ottawa top 5 going into next year.

Karlsson
Methot
Ceci
Phaneuf
Chabot

Huge mistake to delay Chabot's progression. He was named to team Canada tryout camp originally, he was an injury call up and ended up being far and away Canada's best Dman at both ends of the rink. He will replace Wiercioche in the opening night line up and will get his 10 games. He will stick. Like to see Ottawa deal for a veteran physical Dman that can give you 10 good minutes a night including killing penalties.

1. What the (frank) does that have to do with the conversation? 2. I don't support Terrien for future reference.
- cburgess

Therrien is not the problem. The team is undersized. Far too many passengers and Subban has become a modern day side show Bob. It is not and never was a coaching issue. Bergevin is the guy with the issue and needs to change the mix.

Therrien is not the problem. The team is undersized. Far too many passengers and Subban has become a modern day side show Bob. It is not and never was a coaching issue. Bergevin is the guy with the issue and needs to change the mix.
- spatso

I agree with 100% of this. I don't want to turn this into a habs forum tho. I just didn't get the habs reference from that calsens guy

Ottawa can score goals. They need to improve on their puck possession and they need to cut down on the goals against. We saw great improvement in Ceci as soon as he was partnered with Phaneuf at the end of the season. I like the look of an Ottawa top 5 going into next year.

Karlsson
Methot
Ceci
Phaneuf
Chabot

Huge mistake to delay Chabot's progression. He was named to team Canada tryout camp originally, he was an injury call up and ended up being far and away Canada's best Dman at both ends of the rink. He will replace Wiercioche in the opening night line up and will get his 10 games. He will stick. Like to see Ottawa deal for a veteran physical Dman that can give you 10 good minutes a night including killing penalties.
- spatso

I think signing a guy like Hamhuis to play on the bottom pair would be good.....especially if Chabot makes the team. cant' imagine he'd be terrible expensive, probably under 3 mil

karlsson - methot
ceci - phaneuf
hamhuis - chabot
boro

I was talking about the coaching situation in Ottawa with an older friend of mine who was an NHL scout for the St. Louis Blues for a number of years, and I asked him if he thought Boudreau was a slam dunk for the vacancy. To my surprise, he said that Hartley would be a better fit in terms of what the Sens need now. He believes that Boudreau is too soft on his players, and is not a systems/details guy. Hartley on the other hand is a tyrant that will impose a system and get guys to perform. He might grate on players, but he'll bring the stability that the Sens need. He also mentioned the same thing the Gord_Wilson 2.0 did when he talked about Boudreau being successful with teams that were more talent-laden.

Interesting....

I was talking about the coaching situation in Ottawa with an older friend of mine who was an NHL scout for the St. Louis Blues for a number of years, and I asked him if he thought Boudreau was a slam dunk for the vacancy. To my surprise, he said that Hartley would be a better fit in terms of what the Sens need now. He believes that Boudreau is too soft on his players, and is not a systems/details guy. Hartley on the other hand is a tyrant that will impose a system and get guys to perform. He might grate on players, but he'll bring the stability that the Sens need. He also mentioned the same thing the Gord_Wilson 2.0 did when he talked about Boudreau being successful with teams that were more talent-laden.

Interesting....
- jaz258

Ottawa needs to be built around their talent. Karlsson is an all world player and the team needs to be shaped to play in his image.

When it comes to Drouin, I still wouldn't trade Ceci. Sens REALLY REALLY need a decent 2LD and Ceci is able to fill that role. There isn't anyone else in the organization to do that. Drouin has been playing well in the playoffs, but he is playing for his job atm. His holdout / trade request really hurt his value and he's working his butt off to try and build up some interest.

The Sens don't really NEED him. I'd argue Hoffman is just as valuable. Chances are that getting Drouin would mean losing Hoffman because of salary. So Sens would be losing Hoffman and Ceci for Drouin.

I'd like Drouin for the Right price, but 8 playoff points doesn't mean he will be what you'd hope in the long run. I still think there is risk there.

For me, Boudreau is the guy. The way he was able to make a systematic change this year with the ducks, which sent them on their run speaks volume to not only his coaching ability, but flexibility in terms of working with what he's got, and making the most of it.

Now for this team leading into next season. They signed wide man to an extension, and one has to believe that was Dorions doing. And I think boro stays leaving boro and wideman on our bottom pair with claesson being the 7th dman. Wiercoch is traded for a bag of pucks and chabot plays most of the season in bingo where he is a top dman running the power play and maybe even the pk.
The forwards are tricky with Mac bring the biggest question mark. Solid down the middle with turris, zbad, and pageau and adequate on the right side. Some left side reinforcement might be in the cards. In all honesty, a guy like Brooks laich, might not be a bad idea. Lucic is ideal, but we're going to have to settle for someone less skilled, aggressive and cheaper of course.
I really just hope this Damn carousel of coaches will stop playing it's poopty tune soon.

For me, Boudreau is the guy. The way he was able to make a systematic change this year with the ducks, which sent them on their run speaks volume to not only his coaching ability, but flexibility in terms of working with what he's got, and making the most of it.

Now for this team leading into next season. They signed wide man to an extension, and one has to believe that was Dorions doing. And I think boro stays leaving boro and wideman on our bottom pair with claesson being the 7th dman. Wiercoch is traded for a bag of pucks and chabot plays most of the season in bingo where he is a top dman running the power play and maybe even the pk.
The forwards are tricky with Mac bring the biggest question mark. Solid down the middle with turris, zbad, and pageau and adequate on the right side. Some left side reinforcement might be in the cards. In all honesty, a guy like Brooks laich, might not be a bad idea. Lucic is ideal, but we're going to have to settle for someone less skilled, aggressive and cheaper of course.
I really just hope this Damn carousel of coaches will stop playing it's poopty tune soon.
- toult

wideman's contract is a 2-way deal.....he has to earn his spot, and if someone is better (which i strongly suspect will be the case) then he goes back to bingo.

wiercioch won't be traded, he has zero trade value. he won't receive a qualifying offer and he'll become a UFA.

not sure i'd want lucic.......i hate the sideshow aspect of his game. we don't need another forward, we need the forwads we have to get healthy. unless hoffman is traded, then we obviously need anohter forward.

wideman's contract is a 2-way deal.....he has to earn his spot, and if someone is better (which i strongly suspect will be the case) then he goes back to bingo.

wiercioch won't be traded, he has zero trade value. he won't receive a qualifying offer and he'll become a UFA.

not sure i'd want lucic.......i hate the sideshow aspect of his game. we don't need another forward, we need the forwads we have to get healthy. unless hoffman is traded, then we obviously need anohter forward.
- sensarmy_11

You really don't think we need another legit top 6 or 9 forward Our issue this year was a severe lack of depth on both forward and D. No team is ever 100% healthy through an eighty two game season. We need a quality nhler to play in our forward ranks. As for wideman, maybe it's a two way deal, but I'm sure he'd get scooped up on waivers the minute we try to send him down. He's old enough and has enough games to have to clear.

If my favorite team finished dead last in the league this year the LAST thing I'd be doing is trolling onto other teams blogs and chirping other teams. Growing up in the 70's and 80's I cheered for the blue team, but around the millineum their team and fans were so pathetic and embarrassing (like you) I had to find anther team. Christ! You haven't made a final in 49 years nor won a playoff series in 12. Please back to your parents basement and shut the F up.
- jimrobin

Unlike you my friend, the Leafs will be around for another 49 years. The Sens ? they will have switched ownership, cities and arena naming rights more times than I can probably count to. Have fun with your team FAIRWEATHER fan.