powerenforcer
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Location: Wheeling, IL Joined: 09.24.2009
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Blog hit 1000 posts......
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hawks2010
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Location: Madison, WI Joined: 07.13.2009
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A large amount of serviceable 3rd pair Dmen on this UFA/RFA list....
Who do you like as an option for Stanbo? - EnzoD
I'd try and trade TT for Sami Vatanen. Addresses a glaring need for both teams.
If that couldn't be accomplished, I'd look HARD at trading for Hamonic, although it would probably take TT and Pokka to get it done.
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I'd try and trade TT for Sami Vatanen. Addresses a glaring need for both teams.
If that couldn't be accomplished, I'd look HARD at trading for Hamonic, although it would probably take TT and Pokka to get it done. - hawks2010
I dont see either team agreeing to trade impact pieces like that.
ANA will have no shortage of suitors out East that they dont need to risk loading up Chicago as another roadblock to the cup |
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TommyHawk
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Joined: 05.23.2013
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I dont see either team agreeing to trade impact pieces like that.
ANA will have no shortage of suitors out East that they dont need to risk loading up Chicago as another roadblock to the cup - hawkeytalkman
Never understood this logic/mentality.
A trade is meant to help both teams out. You're giving up something, but you're getting something in return. A need for a need. Doesn't matter where it's coming from.
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tyweb69
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Never understood this logic/mentality.
A trade is meant to help both teams out. You're giving up something, but you're getting something in return. A need for a need. Doesn't matter where it's coming from. - TommyHawk
Agree 100%. I guess if they had the same type of offer one in the west and one in the east I can see ANA trading with the east team, otherwise a team will take the best offer EVERY time. |
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savvyone-1
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Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL Joined: 03.04.2011
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Never understood this logic/mentality.
A trade is meant to help both teams out. You're giving up something, but you're getting something in return. A need for a need. Doesn't matter where it's coming from. - TommyHawk
Unless you have a coach that refuses to play said received subject of said trade. In which case, you are better off looking East. |
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StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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Unless you have a coach that refuses to play said received subject of said trade. In which case, you are better off looking East. - savvyone-1
Wow - you can turn any post into an anti-Q response.
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Florida just re-signed Erik Gudbranson to a 1 year $3.5 million deal today. I thought they would have locked him up long term. |
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Florida just re-signed Erik Gudbranson to a 1 year $3.5 million deal today. I thought they would have locked him up long term. - DarthKane
Was just going to write about this...
I'm thinking it's some kind of bridge deal or something. Maybe resign him long-term during the season or shortly afterwards. Sounds odd, but only thing I can think of.
I really like the Panthers and follow them, so this surprised me. I know Dale said a while back that he sees Gudbranson with a "C" on his sweater at some point, but maybe things have changed. |
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savvyone-1
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Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL Joined: 03.04.2011
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Wow - you can turn any post into an anti-Q response. - StLBravesFan
Sometimes the truth is hard to stomach. Even for me.
So many have railed on the Sharp trade with Daley coming and Johns going the other way.
Perfect example and there are many others.
So many bummed by Johns getting sent off -- but in reality, he likely had no place in Chicago at the UC playing for Q. Never got so much as as sniff here - how could someone not even getting 1 game here ever be thought of having a future here. Surely Stan ran this past Q or already knew Johns would never see the roster on the big club.
It's more about calling out what happens here, calling a spade a spade as it were.
Pretty obvious it is Q calling the shots regardless of whether he has title of GM.
He's not going to have a stacked team forever, so the challenge will be whether he is here then or not. Those 3 Cups rest as much on the shoulders of 88/19/2/4/7 as anything.
As a juxtaposition to this, let's see what happens with Tampa and Cooper. So far, he's done a good job of guiding the Stamko-less and Stralman-less Bolts to the ECF. Q couldn't get the Keith-less for 1 game Hawks to the 2nd round. Just saying. |
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(this) - John Jaeckel
Sorry I just don't see it and completely disagree.
Show me the numbers that back it up, and if you or Wiz want to play the PK card then also play the Blues PP success in round 1 which is Kruger's bread and butter and that was exposed, and a cause of why the Hawks didn't advance.
4th line guys are replaceable. Especially those with limited flexibility in their game.....Kruger is never going to be the offensive gem everyone keeps hyping him to be, if so we would have seen it by now. Fact is, we haven't.
I look no further then game 7 when Shaw steps in for Kruger at center between Ladd and Hossa late in the 3rd......if that's not a clear message of a coaches trust in his offensive upside I dont' know what is.
Kruger's a great role player for a cup contending team AT the right cost.....at 3 million on a team with limited cap flexibility he isn't that man any longer. |
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Sometimes the truth is hard to stomach. Even for me.
So many have railed on the Sharp trade with Daley coming and Johns going the other way.
Perfect example and there are many others.
So many bummed by Johns getting sent off -- but in reality, he likely had no place in Chicago at the UC playing for Q. Never got so much as as sniff here - how could someone not even getting 1 game here ever be thought of having a future here. Surely Stan ran this past Q or already knew Johns would never see the roster on the big club.
It's more about calling out what happens here, calling a spade a spade as it were.
Pretty obvious it is Q calling the shots regardless of whether he has title of GM.
He's not going to have a stacked team forever, so the challenge will be whether he is here then or not. Those 3 Cups rest as much on the shoulders of 88/19/2/4/7 as anything.
As a juxtaposition to this, let's see what happens with Tampa and Cooper. So far, he's done a good job of guiding the Stamko-less and Stralman-less Bolts to the ECF. Q couldn't get the Keith-less for 1 game Hawks to the 2nd round. Just saying. - savvyone-1
The reason people (myself included) are bummed about the Johns trade is because of hindsight. He never even got a shot in a Hawks sweater...now, we see him in Dallas, doing a good job and it sucks knowing that talent could have been on the blue line in Chicago.
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TheTrob
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Location: Oak Park, IL Joined: 04.14.2010
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I wish we could get Johns back from Dallas...or, I should say, have never had to move him.
I think he looks good in this St. Louis series. - Hank3Henshaw
I think that Johns has looked OK. Good some games, really poor others. He maybe projects out ok, but realistically he would have been a 6/7 on the Hawks this year, with maybe an outside chance to be a 4/5 next season and moving forward.
People here tend to overvalue the prospects that have been moved. Olsen, Clendening, Dahlbeck, Lalonde, all moved and all left with various degrees of pining for them as they were going to be the next coming. In reality, none of them have made much of an impact whatsoever.
Is Johns better than what is currently available? That is still to be seen. Other than to definitively state that Rundblad sucks, It's really too early to say Gustafsson, Svedberg or Johns is viable NHL D-man or a bust yet. |
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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Anybody who thinks Marcus Kruger is not a 3 million dollar player is wrong.
Anybody who thinks he doesn't move extremely well and have a terrific short term burst, great vision and set up skills needs to look again.
I won't say I am the definitive expert on every one of their prospects from what I watched for my junior player mock draft, but again, find it laughable on how any Blackhawk fan who has seen Danault in these limited viewing on TV and the UC to already have a clear evaluation and comparison between Kruger and Danault.
Take a swipe at Kruger if you want, but don't argue beyond your level of evaluation or link any past comments about how Danault might be a future replacement for him, b/c it at this juncture is not a playing field you can stand on without holes, slopes and bare spots. - wiz1901
Disagree....I recall so many people claiming how Shaw or Kruger couldn't step in for what Bolland did.....and this team hasn't missed a beat.
Shaw gives you lineup flexibility, tough goals, and plays with an edge. Kruger offers no depth scoring and is a glorified PK player....the numbers don't lie.
Kruger is a what could have been, and the Bowmans and hawks are really banking on him still finding that offensive game that probably will never come, because if it were on a consistent level, we as fans would have seen it by now.
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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Not a damn thing I can disagree with here except maybe first paragraph. Yes the Daley deal got you an Oduya type player but it was unknown exactly how he'd fit whereas if no salary came back you could resign a known player in JO. But I get what you're saying. - tyweb69
Thanks Ty....
na-na-na-na-na.............. |
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I think that Johns has looked OK. Good some games, really poor others. He maybe projects out ok, but realistically he would have been a 6/7 on the Hawks this year, with maybe an outside chance to be a 4/5 next season and moving forward.
People here tend to overvalue the prospects that have been moved. Olsen, Clendening, Dahlbeck, Lalonde, all moved and all left with various degrees of pining for them as they were going to be the next coming. In reality, none of them have made much of an impact whatsoever.
Is Johns better than what is currently available? That is still to be seen. Other than to definitively state that Rundblad sucks, It's really too early to say Gustafsson, Svedberg or Johns is viable NHL D-man or a bust yet. - TheTrob
I've never really over-valued the prospects. I'm one of the guys who is down for trading away prospects if it helps improve your team, because realistically, they're unproven and may never pan out.
I think with more time, Johns will only get better. He's a bigger body and can throw it around. In my opinion, he would have been a better option than Rundblad/Gust and maybe even Rozy in the playoffs. Just my opinion, though.
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TheTrob
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Location: Oak Park, IL Joined: 04.14.2010
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Sometimes the truth is hard to stomach. Even for me.
So many have railed on the Sharp trade with Daley coming and Johns going the other way.
Perfect example and there are many others.
So many bummed by Johns getting sent off -- but in reality, he likely had no place in Chicago at the UC playing for Q. Never got so much as as sniff here - how could someone not even getting 1 game here ever be thought of having a future here. Surely Stan ran this past Q or already knew Johns would never see the roster on the big club.
It's more about calling out what happens here, calling a spade a spade as it were.
Pretty obvious it is Q calling the shots regardless of whether he has title of GM.
He's not going to have a stacked team forever, so the challenge will be whether he is here then or not. Those 3 Cups rest as much on the shoulders of 88/19/2/4/7 as anything.
As a juxtaposition to this, let's see what happens with Tampa and Cooper. So far, he's done a good job of guiding the Stamko-less and Stralman-less Bolts to the ECF. Q couldn't get the Keith-less for 1 game Hawks to the 2nd round. Just saying. - savvyone-1
Savvy, your love for Leddy and your anti-Q bias are always readily apparent, but until you show me the case where someone that Q has supposedly run out of town goes elsewhere and lights up the league, its a little off-base. Please don't bring up the Leddy argument either. Regardless of how he was treated by Q, whether real or perceived, he was a cap casualty and nothing more.
As in the bolded above, the failure to advance this year out of the first round is as much on their shoulders (if not more) as it is Q's. |
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EnzoD
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Location: Denver, CO Joined: 02.19.2014
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Disagree....I recall so many people claiming how Shaw or Kruger couldn't step in for what Bolland did.....and this team hasn't missed a beat.
Shaw gives you lineup flexibility, tough goals, and plays with an edge. Kruger offers no depth scoring and is a glorified PK player....the numbers don't lie.
Kruger is a what could have been, and the Bowmans and hawks are really banking on him still finding that offensive game that probably will never come, because if it were on a consistent level, we as fans would have seen it by now. - SteveRain
And a shattered wrist certainly doesn't help with puck skills or shooting, his two weakest attributes..... |
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StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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Sometimes the truth is hard to stomach. Even for me.
So many have railed on the Sharp trade with Daley coming and Johns going the other way.
Perfect example and there are many others.
So many bummed by Johns getting sent off -- but in reality, he likely had no place in Chicago at the UC playing for Q. Never got so much as as sniff here - how could someone not even getting 1 game here ever be thought of having a future here. Surely Stan ran this past Q or already knew Johns would never see the roster on the big club.
It's more about calling out what happens here, calling a spade a spade as it were.
Pretty obvious it is Q calling the shots regardless of whether he has title of GM.
He's not going to have a stacked team forever, so the challenge will be whether he is here then or not. Those 3 Cups rest as much on the shoulders of 88/19/2/4/7 as anything.
As a juxtaposition to this, let's see what happens with Tampa and Cooper. So far, he's done a good job of guiding the Stamko-less and Stralman-less Bolts to the ECF. Q couldn't get the Keith-less for 1 game Hawks to the 2nd round. Just saying. - savvyone-1
Too bad we couldn't see how Cooper would have done without (in 10 games) Kucherov's 9 goals, Johnson's 4, Killorn's 3 - that's 1.6 per game from their top line.
Q's top 2 lines had less than 1 GPG (in 7 games). |
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TheTrob
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Location: Oak Park, IL Joined: 04.14.2010
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I've never really over-valued the prospects. I'm one of the guys who is down for trading away prospects if it helps improve your team, because realistically, they're unproven and may never pan out.
I think with more time, Johns will only get better. He's a bigger body and can throw it around. In my opinion, he would have been a better option than Rundblad/Gust and maybe even Rozy in the playoffs. Just my opinion, though. - Hank3Henshaw
I think with more time Gustafsson and Svedberg get better also. Rundblad will always be garbage and Rozy gave it all he had, but is just done. Johns may have been a better option than Gus/Rozy, but either way, I don't think having Johns necessarily means the Hawks advance. |
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Blog hit 1000 posts...... - powerenforcer
6 day old blog. Milestones happen when things go on long enough. Just like the Hall of Fame for players and even coaches. |
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SimpleJack
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Location: Chicago , IL Joined: 05.23.2013
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Sometimes the truth is hard to stomach. Even for me.
So many have railed on the Sharp trade with Daley coming and Johns going the other way.
Perfect example and there are many others.
So many bummed by Johns getting sent off -- but in reality, he likely had no place in Chicago at the UC playing for Q. Never got so much as as sniff here - how could someone not even getting 1 game here ever be thought of having a future here. Surely Stan ran this past Q or already knew Johns would never see the roster on the big club.
It's more about calling out what happens here, calling a spade a spade as it were.
Pretty obvious it is Q calling the shots regardless of whether he has title of GM.
He's not going to have a stacked team forever, so the challenge will be whether he is here then or not. Those 3 Cups rest as much on the shoulders of 88/19/2/4/7 as anything.
As a juxtaposition to this, let's see what happens with Tampa and Cooper. So far, he's done a good job of guiding the Stamko-less and Stralman-less Bolts to the ECF. Q couldn't get the Keith-less for 1 game Hawks to the 2nd round. Just saying. - savvyone-1
Yeah, I'm sure the fact that the Hawks had to face the Blues and the Bolts got the Wings and Islanders has absolutely nothing to do with those results, right?
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SimpleJack
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Location: Chicago , IL Joined: 05.23.2013
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STL probably would have swept these Lightning. 5 games maybe.
And we would have steamrolled the Wings and Isles. |
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Wow - you can turn any post into an anti-Q response. - StLBravesFan
I can't stand basketball. You seem to make a lot of references to it which I don't care for but I just skip the post rather than bring it up. There's a couple of guys here I won't even start to read because of stuff I've seen them post in the past. Just saying. |
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EnzoD
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Location: Denver, CO Joined: 02.19.2014
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6 day old blog. Milestones happen when things go on long enough. Just like the Hall of Fame for players and even coaches. - 6628
We need something hot off the press from JJ!! Us Fanatics need our Hawks' fix!! |
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