You just described Kruger. Except Danault is a better skater than Kruger.
- bhawks2241

That's kinda debtable. Kruger has a funny looking stride but people who are in skating "for a living" have told me he is one of the Hawks top skaters.

Jagr signs on-year extension with Florida. So awesome. he's great for that organization and the legend continues for another year

What I took from his interview was that he needs to get paid. Hawks let Panarin walk and they officially have 1 Top 6 winger. If Panarin walks next summer, Hawks will be a lottery team.
- EnzoD

Hossa's a top 6 guy on most teams in the league. Again, the Hossa=3rd liner narrative may be running amok a bit at this point. But point taken overall about winger depth.

I'm sure Daley plays a part in that blame, but is it "blame" per say? Perhaps Daley ultimately just didn't fit in Q's scheme? I think that's part of the problem.
- EKB13

I find this Daley is now the greatest player on Earth and I wish in my heart he could have reappeared for playoff game one"...and a bunch of delusional whiners basing their opinion on a few daley outings where he has been impressive offensively.

Did you say something along this line when he wore the Indianhead and he impressed you THEN?

Has he lead his current team for the Finals and and Cup yet?

Then, you can retrospective realign the past and "wrong move it."

Me things after talking to the entire staff and viewing production mid season, there were clear misgivings about having THAT 3.3 million that the hawks expected to a reasonable salaried #4 defender but when he simply was UNABLE to adjust and play their up ice push style where he wasn't the lead riverboat gambler, who got to hold the cards on what happened to the puck, when it would be passed, and where it would be thrown, the Blackhawk thought...we can move on and get ready for the playoff run with having Cap space for rental adds.

Believe me I am not attempting to be disrespectful, but when Daley is able to be a solid defender in the Stanley Cup Finals for a Pens win, then I will start re-adjusting me view from what MY EYES see.
In big team wins, guys look really good in general (I know the hawk role guys always do to me), but I keep noticing in losses he is on the ice a whole lot.

There will be lot of Swedes in Rockford if Gustav won´t be heading back to Sweden next fall.
- MjulQvist

There will be lots of Swedes in Rockford backline anyway...and one WOn'T BE Forsling, as that is a Panarin type deal where if he doesn't work his way in , or looks to need more time, he gets to play Swedish pro.

He's not coming to show he can let the cannon go in the AHL...

On the flipside...the core has played the most games ever for NHLers in a 7 year span. So he has to let them rest, especially as the playoffs are nearing. Which was why Ladd was a good pickup...didn't need the practice time. If you are the coach, who do you support? Your core or new players? Not sure there's a good answer. Also, I saw this in the Q&A:



Thought that was real telling and since AA needed that surgery, might be part of the reason why Kane didn't have a great post season.

Finally, this:


I took it as Panarin isn't upset with the Hawks, he's doesn't like the salary cap. But that could just be how I interpret it.
- CanOCorn

Wellllll.,just speculating playing Hockeycard GM, IIFFF he wants to be with his buddy in St. Louie, and DupaYoshu can't sign him , Hmmmm, Well Dougie, Start by puttingColton Parayko and Jake Allen on the table for starters, then let's see where it goes. III don't know about this summer,but it doesn't sound good. And I cringe when I see some of these dream rosters withRockford slugs being inserted in some spots , not a good recipe, we Had 5house league players (Mashintor, Svedberg, Gusteffsson, Runblad, and Rassmusson) on our playoff team, what did we expect? And Panik, all thee eggs reaching for straws going there? Kid had a nice little run and that is IT! Notthe next coming of Hossa, Stevie Y is a good hockey man, there is a reason he sent him packing, he's nothing !
We will know by the 4th of July what our prognosis is for next season. I'm thinking we will get a top ten draft pick for 2017 when we host the draft.

Wiz,

I have maintained from the day he inked his extension that Marcus Kruger has an NHL Market Value of about $2.5-$3mil/year. On this Salary Cap strapped team, I do not think the Hawks can afford to pay a glorified 4C $3mil/year. We will see what Stan decides to do with the rest of the roster this year, but Kruger for a longer term at $2mil would have been ideal.
- EnzoD

I don't care what you call him...1st line C, 2nd line C, 3rd line C or 4th line C...but he is the 2nd best CENTER on this team, and he was the 2nd best CENTER on two teams that won the Stanley Cup...worth 3mil...at least...Kruger is a stud and I'm glad he is here to stay

Not good enough in the playoff games-- they had multiple chances to put games away and deflate the Blues-- didn't do it--
- jb3333

It would be great to score on every PP opportunity, but we know that never happens. The Hawks were 6 for 19 on the PP against the Blues. As a point of comparison, the Stars have had 11 PP chances against the Blues so far and have yet to score. With more PP goals the Hawks would have won series, but they lost series with their 5v5 play if that makes sense.

You just described Kruger. Except Danault is a better skater than Kruger.
- bhawks2241

Nope

I don't care what you call him...1st line C, 2nd line C, 3rd line C or 4th line C...but he is the 2nd best CENTER on this team, and he was the 2nd best CENTER on two teams that won the Stanley Cup...worth 3mil...at least...Kruger is a stud and I'm glad he is here to stay
- captainserious

So Kruger is a better player than Anisimov? Highly questionable, IMO.

I don't care what you call him....Kruger is a stud and I'm glad he is here to stay
- captainserious

and if anyone this the Flash, Danault could in any shape replace Kruger in 2016-2016
is so incorrect.

We get to see don't we with Danault and Habs role...

So you want to wait wait wait for him, and he no longer is a luxury bury in the minor item...

So there is a lot of REAL things to consider, not just a projection of a players speediness...

Hossa's a top 6 guy on most teams in the league. Again, the Hossa=3rd liner narrative may be running amok a bit at this point. But point taken overall about winger depth.
- John Jaeckel

I would like to see this top 6 forward group to start the year....

Panik-Toews-Kane
Panarin-Anisimov-Hossa


Let 72+88 create on their own lines and let 15, 81, + 19 do the dirty work for them. Hossa was the best Hawk forward in games 5-7 of the STL series, and hopefully he changes his shooting/finishing approach next year bc the quick snap shot on the ice isn't working.....

So Kruger is a better player than Anisimov? Highly questionable, IMO.
- EnzoD

Kruger is better defensively, and waaaay better at the dot...Anisimov scores more goals, but he also gets PP time, and gets to play with Panarin and the MVP of the league Patrick Kane...IF Kruger played with them two he'd have a 20 goal season to show for it as well.

Don't get me wrong, I think Anisimov is very good 2nd line C...I just think people don't give Kruger enough credit

Trade Crawford and Rundblad for Niemi, Oduya, and Johns.
- DMChi2010

Yeah, since they are the single reason Dallas will win their series?


NOPE

So Kruger is a better player than Anisimov? Highly questionable, IMO.
- EnzoD

If you go by salary...no. The Hawks think more of AA. Probably because he scores more. BUT...Kruger is one of those guys, that the FO and Q trust and know what he can do. He's important to THIS TEAM.

I find this Daley is now the greatest player on Earth and I wish in my heart he could have reappeared for playoff game one"...and a bunch of delusional whiners basing their opinion on a few daley outings where he has been impressive offensively.

Did you say something along this line when he wore the Indianhead and he impressed you THEN?

Has he lead his current team for the Finals and and Cup yet?

Then, you can retrospective realign the past and "wrong move it."

Me things after talking to the entire staff and viewing production mid season, there were clear misgivings about having THAT 3.3 million that the hawks expected to a reasonable salaried #4 defender but when he simply was UNABLE to adjust and play their up ice push style where he wasn't the lead riverboat gambler, who got to hold the cards on what happened to the puck, when it would be passed, and where it would be thrown, the Blackhawk thought...we can move on and get ready for the playoff run with having Cap space for rental adds.

Believe me I am not attempting to be disrespectful, but when Daley is able to be a solid defender in the Stanley Cup Finals for a Pens win, then I will start re-adjusting me view from what MY EYES see.
In big team wins, guys look really good in general (I know the hawk role guys always do to me), but I keep noticing in losses he is on the ice a whole lot.
- wiz1901

Don't think some of us are delusional whiners, for me, it was questioning if he would have been better than the #5 or #6 Dmen they put out on the ice in the playoffs, that's all.

On the Danault thing, again out of context a bit, it was more that you traded him for guys who you didn't dress.

That just doesn't make any sense to me

Anyone itching for cross-town World Series this year?
- DMChi2010

Hoping for an I-55 series here.

Correct, well-played.

Obscure NW Suburb references for a thousand, Alex!!
- John Jaeckel

Ha. I may be one of the other handful that got it too.

Wiz,

I have maintained from the day he inked his extension that Marcus Kruger has an NHL Market Value of about $2.5-$3mil/year. On this Salary Cap strapped team, I do not think the Hawks can afford to pay a glorified 4C $3mil/year. We will see what Stan decides to do with the rest of the roster this year, but Kruger for a longer term at $2mil would have been ideal.
- EnzoD

A players market value and what the team can afford to pay him often don't align in the cap environment imho.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(this)
- John Jaeckel

of course, healthy Kruger that is.

Pretty sure 90% of this board wanted Daley gone.....

A players market value and what the team can afford to pay him often don't align in the cap environment imho.
- Jason Millen

I have kept my same position on Kruger since the extension. He is a very valuable player, but do the Hawks HAVE to have him?? Do they need to have him over a top 6 winger, or a winger in Shaw that can play effectively on ANY line? I don't think so. However, once Danault was traded, the need for Kruger increased exponentially. He is great in his role, but on this team, that role can only be paid about $2mil, IMO.

This is becoming one of those things . . .

Whispers coming from around the team that they "could have used Daley in the playoffs but Q made up his mind about him after one practice."

Ouch.
- John Jaeckel

Q is starting to sound like this guy:

Q is starting to sound like this guy:


- gifman

What is this? An image for ants?

and if anyone this the Flash, Danault could in any shape replace Kruger in 2016-2016
is so incorrect.

We get to see don't we with Danault and Habs role...

So you want to wait wait wait for him, and he no longer is a luxury bury in the minor item...

So there is a lot of REAL things to consider, not just a projection of a players speediness...
- wiz1901

Gotta agree and have to take into account we only had a small sample size of him and had limited playing time. Kid could be a good player - the potential is there, but Kruger provides many intangibles.