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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Drop to 5th Pick In Draft Lottery, Raising New Questions
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 1 @ 6:36 PM ET
I don't know much about Dubois admittedly...but (today) i go
Tkatchuk
Juloevi
Chychrun
Dubois
Sergachev

- dbot


That is a pretty good order. Too bad we don't really need wingers.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 1 @ 6:38 PM ET
Rather keep McCann. He's going to get better and better and has an attitude too.
- bazz



I would hope that he would continue to improve, but not many believe he will develop into a 1C.

RNH should be able to be a 1C, especially with the right linemates (boesser, JV)
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 1 @ 6:42 PM ET
That is a pretty good order. Too bad we don't really need wingers.
- Nighthawk

Dubois plays centre
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 1 @ 6:45 PM ET
Dubois plays centre
- A_SteamingLombardi

I hope dubois droos to 5th.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 1 @ 6:54 PM ET
I hope dubois droos to 5th.
- Retinalz

Me too.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 6:57 PM ET
Dubois plays center and wing Carol. Benning said he would groom him into a center if chosen. Great blog!
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 1 @ 6:58 PM ET
With the Oilers in the 4 spot it wouldn't really matter if there were a clear cut #1 D in the draft, he wouldn't get by them.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 7:01 PM ET
Tyson Jost could end up being one of the better players past the top three?
- LeftCoaster


Yes. He is playing with Boeser next year. Going to kill it
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 1 @ 7:13 PM ET
Dubois plays centre
- A_SteamingLombardi


He's listed as LW. Can play center and plays centre is a pretty big difference when you're looking for a #1 Center.

We need LW as well, but if we are picking between lw and d , shouldn't we go with high end dman?
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

May 1 @ 7:20 PM ET
Didn't the odds have us picking 5th all along?

Don't we usually talk about Top5 when discussing the draft?

We'll get a good player.

- dbot


That's what kills me... The new system is supposed to discourage tanking... Canucks did not tank and were punished.

Toronto tanked on purpose and walked away with the ace.

Either the NHL is corrupt or extremely inept.

As much as I used to be convinced it was the former... It's definitely the latter.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 7:24 PM ET
Any idea if the 2017 draft will be good and have a couple of franchise players? Hopefully we can at least win that one
- mauryballstein


It's a soft draft. No Matthews or Laine. That being said, things can change in a hurry as it's difficult to project 16 year olds
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 1 @ 7:26 PM ET
That's what kills me... The new system is supposed to discourage tanking... Canucks did not tank and were punished.

Toronto tanked on purpose and walked away with the ace.

Either the NHL is corrupt or extremely inept.

As much as I used to be convinced it was the former... It's definitely the latter.

- rugdnit

I was thinking the same thing
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 1 @ 7:28 PM ET
Id like to trade hansen, mccann for firsts if we could get in the 10-20 range and grab a dman and big c/LW assuming we take dubois at 5.
- mauryballstein

which is why I suggested Habs #9 to take sergachev. J Subban may have big value to the habs in a package....

Theres so many intangibles....depends on who oilers pick....if its Joulevi then do we take tkachuk at 5....Maybe they take Tkachuk and we take dubouis or chychrun...maybe they pick chychrun and we have the pick of all 4 of them.

Personally I would like an extra pick or 2... 6-15 range. Take a forward and a D or 2.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 1 @ 7:29 PM ET
He's listed as LW. Can play center and plays centre is a pretty big difference when you're looking for a #1 Center.

We need LW as well, but if we are picking between lw and d , shouldn't we go with high end dman?

- Scooby_Doo

Take best player if all things are equal in the 1st, dubois is ranked higher by almost everyone over the dmen. Majority of good forwards are all 1st rounders where as a good dman can come from any round it seems.

Hopefully he is still there
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 7:30 PM ET
That is a pretty good order. Too bad we don't really need wingers.
- Nighthawk

We don't need wingers? Pardon?
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 1 @ 7:33 PM ET
which is why I suggested Habs #9 to take sergachev. J Subban may have big value to the habs in a package....

Theres so many intangibles....depends on who oilers pick....if its Joulevi then do we take tkachuk at 5....Maybe they take Tkachuk and we take dubouis or chychrun...maybe they pick chychrun and we have the pick of all 4 of them.

Personally I would like an extra pick or 2... 6-15 range. Take a forward and a D or 2.

- SMBDragon

I think we can still get a quality dman in the 2nd round.

I want dubois at 5 or trade back a few spots and grab brown and hopefully get an extra 2nd.

Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 1 @ 7:34 PM ET
That's what kills me... The new system is supposed to discourage tanking... Canucks did not tank and were punished.

Toronto tanked on purpose and walked away with the ace.

Either the NHL is corrupt or extremely inept.

As much as I used to be convinced it was the former... It's definitely the latter.

- rugdnit


Sucks because last year's format and we are picking 3rd. We totally got screwed. (frank) bettman.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 1 @ 7:36 PM ET
Dubois, nylander, Tkachuk, juolevi, brown. Still tons of talent available at number 5.
If edm takes juolevi then we have a potential future number 1 in Dubois (who might be in the top 3 most all around 'ready' of the kids). If edm takes Dubois and sells some of their younger forwards in the summer, we get a damn good defenceman in juolevi. No need to be sad people =)

- Codes1087

cant see anyone picking nylander over tkachuk dubois brown.... hes too light n weak.

I really think our best bet is to take multiple picks if JB can swing it. We have some assets that wouldnt be such a big loss if the return is premium players...
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 1 @ 7:36 PM ET
Take best player if all things are equal in the 1st, dubois is ranked higher by almost everyone over the dmen. Majority of good forwards are all 1st rounders where as a good dman can come from any round it seems.

Hopefully he is still there

- mauryballstein


So we are either getting Tkachuk or Dubois it would seem.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 7:38 PM ET
So we are either getting Tkachuk or Dubois is would see.
- Scooby_Doo


We are taking a D. Benning said so
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 1 @ 7:39 PM ET
I think we can still get a quality dman in the 2nd round.

I want dubois at 5 or trade back a few spots and grab brown and hopefully get an extra 2nd.

- mauryballstein

while I like players like Hanson adn Mcann if in the case of Hanson they get a premium D in the draft do it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 7:44 PM ET
Just got back from the park with our two grandsons. It's hard telling a 4 yr old he can't play baseball with the 12 year olds. I needed some of Scoobys wine.

Beautiful day
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 1 @ 7:44 PM ET
He's listed as LW. Can play center and plays centre is a pretty big difference when you're looking for a #1 Center.

We need LW as well, but if we are picking between lw and d , shouldn't we go with high end dman?

- Scooby_Doo


Boils down to offense in my books.
Still a fan of trading down & pick 1 of the 3 D or Brown or Jost.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 1 @ 7:46 PM ET
We don't need wingers? Pardon?
- CanuckDon


Boesser & a log jam already. Who plays or is traded?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 1 @ 7:47 PM ET
That's what kills me... The new system is supposed to discourage tanking... Canucks did not tank and were punished.

Toronto tanked on purpose and walked away with the ace.

Either the NHL is corrupt or extremely inept.

As much as I used to be convinced it was the former... It's definitely the latter.

- rugdnit


So. Toronto should have held onto Phaneuf, Clarkson, Kessel? Not traded spare parts at the deadline? Played their #1 Goalie with the sub .900 save percentage? Magically avoided injury to JVR... or was the surgery fake also? Maybe the Lupul injury was faked, except that, he has been injured pretty much every year of his career.

I love how people spent years telling us how Kessel and Phaneuf were overrated and overpaid.

So, we finally get a management group that recognizes the roster was horrible and going nowhere and they made changes. Now they are guilty of tanking.

Sorry, that they didn't consciously decide to make a run at 12th and continue to be the laughing stock of the league.

I can't think of one move Toronto made that was not wholly justified. Can you name one?
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