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bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 11:12 PM ET
Difference between 3rd and 5th is pretty significant. With the top 3 you know you're getting a game changer. Now they're more likely to end up with a player similar to Horvat. A quality player, really nice to have, but not necessarily dominant or a consistent threat that opposing coaches have to design special game plans to deal with.
- YeOldTimer


Exactly what I'm thinking. Also if the draft lottery was like last year, Canucks would have stayed at 3. That's why this stings a little more. They picked 6 two years ago. Virtanen is a nice player, but I'm not yet convinced he takes the team to another level.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Apr 30 @ 11:16 PM ET
You still need a #1C. Time is running out.
- VanHockeyGuy


Stamkos, not like toronto needs him
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 11:21 PM ET
Exactly what I'm thinking. Also if the draft lottery was like last year, Canucks would have stayed at 3. That's why this stings a little more. They picked 6 two years ago. Virtanen is a nice player, but I'm not yet convinced he takes the team to another level.
- bazz

Number one pick was compared to Jack Eichel . Nice pick 20 goal scorer, not a game changer. Buffalo improved but years away from being a contender.

Benning is doing a decent job at building a team .
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 30 @ 11:23 PM ET
Stamkos, not like toronto needs him
- phyllee

You would just be stepping into TB'S shoes and unable to keep your good young talent in a few years because you have 15% of your cap tied up in one player. Not that he would sign with the Canucks, but if they were like, you know, the only team offering him the numbers he's looking for.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 30 @ 11:24 PM ET
Number one pick was compared to Jack Eichel . Nice pick 20 goal scorer, not a game changer. Buffalo improved but years away from being a contender.

Benning is doing a decent job at building a team .

- VANTEL


He's playing with GM's who will eat him alive if he deals at this level.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 30 @ 11:25 PM ET
You still need a #1C. Time is running out.
- VanHockeyGuy


You do, but a #1C prospect like Matthews will play in the NHL next year and start growing, for the right timing the depth of the team needs to be ready for that player to join. I see Edmonton with that problem, their 1OA's are moving onto their big contracts but without the quality depth behind them haven't been able to make a playoff push. Plus you never know who can surprise
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 30 @ 11:28 PM ET
You do, but a #1C prospect like Matthews will play in the NHL next year and start growing, for the right timing the depth of the team needs to be ready for that player to join. I see Edmonton with that problem, their 1OA's are moving onto their big contracts but without the quality depth behind them haven't been able to make a playoff push. Plus you never know who can surprise
- WhiteLie


There is no 1C successor in the system.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Apr 30 @ 11:28 PM ET
You would just be stepping into TB'S shoes and unable to keep your good young talent in a few years because you have 15% of your cap tied up in one player. Not that he would sign with the Canucks, but if they were like, you know, the only team offering him the numbers he's looking for.
- YeOldTimer


But the difference between us and tampa, were going down in cap space year after year, with all the space this year, Burrows (if not bought out) and Miller next, the Sedins after that. And i cant see any of our current prospects actually getting paid more then 5 mill a season for awhile.
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 11:29 PM ET
Number one pick was compared to Jack Eichel . Nice pick 20 goal scorer, not a game changer. Buffalo improved but years away from being a contender.

Benning is doing a decent job at building a team .

- VANTEL


Eichel was a rookie, he will do even better next year. I agree that Benning has been building positively -- at least his drafts.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 30 @ 11:33 PM ET
I worked hard at being deliberately negative all day. Doing what I could to help the cause and all. But things didn't work out (surprise, surprise) and, after indulging in a little pointless nonsense here for a change of pace, I think it's time to go be bitter for a while. May all your evenings be more successful than the Canucks' day.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 30 @ 11:36 PM ET
There is no 1C successor in the system.
- VanHockeyGuy


We still have a few more high drafts to come, he'll be there
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 11:39 PM ET
I worked hard at being deliberately negative all day. Doing what I could to help the cause and all. But things didn't work out (surprise, surprise) and, after indulging in a little pointless nonsense here for a change of pace, I think it's time to go be bitter for a while. May all your evenings be more successful than the Canucks' day.
- YeOldTimer


Did the lottery machine take into account Corsi or Bo's plus/minus?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 30 @ 11:44 PM ET
We still have a few more high drafts to come, he'll be there
- WhiteLie

If healthy we will contend for the WC next season and probably pick 16th...the year after will be the tank year
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Apr 30 @ 11:52 PM ET
Is Logan brown actually the pick at 5?
Craig button says so.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Apr 30 @ 11:53 PM ET
I worked hard at being deliberately negative all day. Doing what I could to help the cause and all. But things didn't work out (surprise, surprise) and, after indulging in a little pointless nonsense here for a change of pace, I think it's time to go be bitter for a while. May all your evenings be more successful than the Canucks' day.
- YeOldTimer


This team makes me feel like crap a lot of the time. I'm getting sick of it. I need a new hobby.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

May 1 @ 12:13 AM ET
Number one pick was compared to Jack Eichel . Nice pick 20 goal scorer, not a game changer. Buffalo improved but years away from being a contender.

Benning is doing a decent job at building a team .

- VANTEL


He's a number one center as a rookie scoring 50+ points with McGinn and Girgensons as his two best regular wingers. That's amazing.

If you don't think that's a game changer for a franchise... well... I don't even really know man.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 1 @ 12:15 AM ET
This team makes me feel like crap a lot of the time. I'm getting sick of it. I need a new hobby.
- Scooby_Doo

You guy's will get a good player. Be interesting to see you guys draft the sexy Nylander. Would change a few opinions I'd imagine
iknowbest
Seattle Kraken
Location: I believe in unicorns, santa c
Joined: 08.28.2012

May 1 @ 12:37 AM ET
You guy's will get a good player. Be interesting to see you guys draft the sexy Nylander. Would change a few opinions I'd imagine
- walshyleafsfan


No way Nylander goes top 5.

Was here yesterday saying Nucks would get 5th or 6th. No idea why you guys would think you'd get a top 3. Nucks are the Cubs of the NHL. Just not gonna happen for you guys. You've got a few decent 2nd and 3rd liner prospects in Horvat and Virtanen but it's going to be a long, long time before you compete again. 5th pick this year will be another decent but not high end prospect. A long road ahead.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 1 @ 12:39 AM ET
No way Nylander goes top 5.

Was here yesterday saying Nucks would get 5th or 6th. No idea why you guys would think you'd get a top 3. Nucks are the Cubs of the NHL. Just not gonna happen for you guys. You've got a few decent 2nd and 3rd liner prospects in Horvat and Virtanen but it's going to be a long, long time before you compete again. 5th pick this year will be another decent but not high end prospect. A long road ahead.

- iknowbest


Well I hope everything you say is true.
iknowbest
Seattle Kraken
Location: I believe in unicorns, santa c
Joined: 08.28.2012

May 1 @ 12:45 AM ET
Well I hope everything you say is true.
- walshyleafsfan


Well, as a Leafs fan I'm sure you can appreciate the Nucks situation. Leafs and Nucks seem destined for perennial failure. Though the Leafs now with Matthews ad Marner seem positioned to finally be getting it together. Nucks are the most unlucky team in NHL history. Every league has one.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 1 @ 12:49 AM ET
Well, as a Leafs fan I'm sure you can appreciate the Nucks situation. Leafs and Nucks seem destined for perennial failure. Though the Leafs now with Matthews ad Marner seem positioned to finally be getting it together. Nucks are the most unlucky team in NHL history. Every league has one.
- iknowbest

Hopefully we'll be lucky enough one day for our owner to die
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 12:50 AM ET
This team makes me feel like crap a lot of the time. I'm getting sick of it. I need a new hobby.
- Scooby_Doo

What you talking about PHooby
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 1 @ 12:51 AM ET
Well, as a Leafs fan I'm sure you can appreciate the Nucks situation. Leafs and Nucks seem destined for perennial failure. Though the Leafs now with Matthews ad Marner seem positioned to finally be getting it together. Nucks are the most unlucky team in NHL history. Every league has one.
- iknowbest

They do remind me a lot of what the Leafs have been through this past decade yes. But, as you say Leafs future is starting to look up a bit. A long way to go but Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Rielly is a decent start. Supporting pieces like Brown, Johnson, Hyman, Soshnikov look like they can help out. Maybe (doubtful) they can add Stamkos, Zaitsev and/or Vesey to the mix as well. The 2015 draft has quite a number of PPG or close to guys, so that's intriguing. Nielson, Bracco, Dermott, Timashov may become something and a slew of picks the next two years. Long road ahead though
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 1 @ 12:51 AM ET
What you talking about PHooby
- VANTEL

iknowbest
Seattle Kraken
Location: I believe in unicorns, santa c
Joined: 08.28.2012

May 1 @ 12:55 AM ET
They do remind me a lot of what the Leafs have been through this past decade yes. But, as you say Leafs future is starting to look up a bit. A long way to go but Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Rielly is a decent start. Supporting pieces like Brown, Johnson, Hyman, Soshnikov look like they can help out. Maybe (doubtful) they can add Stamkos, Zaitsev and/or Vesey to the mix as well. The 2015 draft has quite a number of PPG or close to guys, so that's intriguing. Nielson, Bracco, Dermott, Timashov may become something and a slew of picks the next two years. Long road ahead though
- walshyleafsfan



Ya, I really like Marner. Very similar to Kane.
But it was funny seeing the history of guys drafted 1st overall and how so many of them have never won a Cup.
Really curious to see who goes 4th, 5th and 6th in this draft. Would think:
4: Tkachuck
5: Dubois
6: Nylander OR Juoleleivooilevi or whatever the (frank)

Seems 4 and 5 is Dubois vs Tkachuk
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