sure, whatever. we did this for two days last time, I'm not wasting time on you again.
- Isles_since_6

Oh... so I'm right then.

So whats up with Maatta? He had the one bad game against the Rags... then looked fine since. Is this simply his conditioning not being back and he just was a bit fortunate during the Rangers series due to them being slower?

If so... gotta sit him one game and have him working out a bit extra, need him back to his real self, so he doesn't cost us a game when its more vital.

http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2016/04/16/three-examples-of-brayden-schenn-trying-to-hurt-caps-players-last-game/
http://www.russianmachine...o-evgeny-kuznetsovs-knee/
Show me stuff like that from Wilson, other than the knee on knee.

Hitting people along the boards when you shouldn't is one thing. Leaving your feet, cross checking people into the boards, into the net is an entirely different thing.

So again, I'm not sure how Wilson, who hits hard and at every opportune, is a dirtier player than one who targeted heads, left his feet, cross checked a knee. But no matter what, Wilson will always have his reputation.

I'm just defending him against the accusation that he is a bring nothing plug, when I see him as more as a agitator 4th liner..like Clutterbuck., who had a far worst reputation in his early years in Minn.
- Blackstrom2

The richards check was illegal and the cross check was POS...everyone has acknowledged that, even Schenn himself. Players make mistakes all the time...theres just only some that continue to do the same poop all the time

I'll try and care about your opinion.
- Isles_since_6

then calling people and fanbases idiots shouldn't affect them either

sure, whatever. we did this for two days last time, I'm not wasting time on you again.
- Isles_since_6

Excuse me, two-day female dog-fests need to proceed to the Oiler's thread.

This is a laughable statement. Letang lets his emotions get the best of him which leads him to do the occasional stupid poop. The stick whack on Stalberg was really bad. He is by no means a dirty player. If Letang is a dirty player Staal deserves to be suspended half the year.
- Victoro311

The fact that you continue to defend him is what's laughable he's a little punk and what goes around comes around. Only harder. His day will come.

The fact that you continue to defend him is what's laughable he's a little punk and what goes around comes around. Only harder. His day will come.
- Bobd62

not really little: 1.83 m
little would be MSL

sure, whatever. we did this for two days last time, I'm not wasting time on you again.
- Isles_since_6

oh grand, this crap again

The fact that you continue to defend him is what's laughable he's a little punk and what goes around comes around. Only harder. His day will come.
- Bobd62

HEEEEEE HAWWWWW

The richards check was illegal and the cross check was POS...everyone has acknowledged that, even Schenn himself. Players make mistakes all the time...theres just only some that continue to do the same poop all the time
- YuenglingJagr

But my point is, where is Wilson's evidence of all this intent to injure shenanigans?

We saw the Schenn hit, and I said that he is bad about hitting along the boards. And now there is the Sheary knee on knee, which admittedly, looks really bad. Clutterbuck used to hit everything his first few years, and he was cited as a dirty player who wouldn't fight. Now, playing the same style pretty much but evolving it, he's considered an above-average 4th-liner. Why can't Wilson be given the chance to take out the questionable hits around the boards and obviously skating at people's knees, and become an above average 4th liner?

Let's not forget this gem....

https://twitter.com/Evgen...status/718229193729904641

Here's how I look at Wilson. he isn't very good, but he's big and strong. So he's going to use that to his advantage, and routinely goes for the hit rather than the puck. But, like I said, he doesn't intentionally target heads or leave his feet. He's just big and strong and he hits in most situations, whether the receiver is in a good position to take it or not.

The knee on knee on Sheary looks bad. Really bad. But most prior incidences is just him imposing his will on people, and like I said, he needs to be far better about it along the boards. He doesn't have a laundry list or skating at people's knees or leaving his feet.
- Blackstrom2

Wilson is a kid that has ECHL on him. He brings little value to the table, absent he's big and strong. People bagged Matt Cooke for a long time for his antics. However, Cooke, when he played right, was a solid NHL player. Wilson, nope. He does intentionally target people. We all have seen the tape. How you can defend him is beyond me.

Wilson is a kid that has ECHL on him. He brings little value to the table, absent he's big and strong. People bagged Matt Cooke for a long time for his antics. However, Cooke, when he played right, was a solid NHL player. Wilson, nope. He does intentionally target people. We all have seen the tape. How you can defend him is beyond me.
- Oneonta Penguin

Show me the tape.

Let's not forget this gem....

https://twitter.com/Evgen...status/718229193729904641
- madmike71

All the evidence points to him not letting up along the boards, pretty much. It's assumed that's intent to injure, and him just not getting it yet?


Anyways, I think if we see any questionable stuff from him, he'll get suspended after the missed knee on knee. And it's probably inevitable that he is going to board someone.

HEEEEEE HAWWWWW
- j.boyd919

Typical response from a hypocrite. I can here you crying now when someone takes him out. Could be this series

All the evidence points to him not letting up along the boards, pretty much. It's assumed that's intent to injure, and him just not getting it yet?


Anyways, I think if we see any questionable stuff from him, he'll get suspended after the missed knee on knee. And it's probably inevitable that he is going to board someone.
- Blackstrom2

Inevitable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLmX92SUuiM

Kinda my point. Watching people blame their teams loss on refs for missing a particular call is pathetic and despicable.
- RonPielep

I dont really think anyone is saying had Wilson gotten a penalty that the Pens would have won or even scored. The issue is that Wilsons knee was after the play, to a player not involved in the play and clearly was intended to injure.

To those bringing up Lovejoys slash, yeah it deserved a penalty, but you can make an argument that Lovejoy didnt intend to hit him with the stick (still a penalty because you got to have control of your stick) but there is no argument that Wilsons hit on Sheary was an accident.

Inevitable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLmX92SUuiM
- acdc1206

Do you know what that word means?

All the evidence points to him not letting up along the boards, pretty much. It's assumed that's intent to injure, and him just not getting it yet?


Anyways, I think if we see any questionable stuff from him, he'll get suspended after the missed knee on knee. And it's probably inevitable that he is going to board someone.
- Blackstrom2

Well... Let's just hope he doesn't ruin a career before he "get's it".

I dont really think anyone is saying had Wilson gotten a penalty that the Pens would have won or even scored. The issue is that Wilsons knee was after the play, to a player not involved in the play and clearly was intended to injure.

To those bringing up Lovejoys slash, yeah it deserved a penalty, but you can make an argument that Lovejoy didnt intend to hit him with the stick (still a penalty because you got to have control of your stick) but there is no argument that Wilsons hit on Sheary was an accident.
- stackthepads

I only brought up the slash when people are talking about the ref. I'm not really comparing the two. It's clear that the refs missed that and it's puzzling that he only got fined.

All the evidence points to him not letting up along the boards, pretty much. It's assumed that's intent to injure, and him just not getting it yet?


Anyways, I think if we see any questionable stuff from him, he'll get suspended after the missed knee on knee. And it's probably inevitable that he is going to board someone.
- Blackstrom2

Dude, seriously? Boarding someone from behind, and not even trying to get the loose puck! The guy is a POS. A kid in peewee hockey knows that's a dangerous play.

Well... Let's just hope he doesn't ruin a career before he "get's it".
- madmike71

Here's hoping.

Dude, seriously? Boarding someone from behind, and not even trying to get the loose puck! The guy is a POS. A kid in peewee hockey knows that's a dangerous play.
- JimmyP

Why did you bold the part where I acknowledged it was boarding?

I dont really think anyone is saying had Wilson gotten a penalty that the Pens would have won or even scored. The issue is that Wilsons knee was after the play, to a player not involved in the play and clearly was intended to injure.

To those bringing up Lovejoys slash, yeah it deserved a penalty, but you can make an argument that Lovejoy didnt intend to hit him with the stick (still a penalty because you got to have control of your stick) but there is no argument that Wilsons hit on Sheary was an accident.
- stackthepads

Like I said earlier, I wasn't directly condemning anyone of exactly what I said, but when you call the biggest turning point of the game a missed call against your team and then go on to say

As far as suspensions/fines (he was fined) go I don't really care because the damage was done. Pittsburgh is not going to get that five minute power play and that is really what they needed most.
- RW

that is getting a little too close to blaming the refs for your teams loss. That's not to say there isn't any truth to what RW is saying (especially in the 2nd sentence of his quote), but to me it comes across a little too close to making excuses for your teams loss based on a missed call by the refs. And my point was missed calls go both ways, so that kinda what-if logic is fundamentally flawed.

In other words no, RW is not explicitly saying that, but in my opinion he is insinuating it well enough.

fine, whatever. (frank) tom wilson. malkin, letang, or crosby should fight him every chance they get.