Remember that the Stemp and Liles trades cost us picks over the next couple seasons.

Best bet would be to simply try a straight trade for Dumba.........

Let them know we will sign him for $6.5 plus and give them a couple first (this season and next) for it.

That's the tricky part............no smart GM, will trade a top 10 pick for less than a "kimg's ransom"..............unless you are Don Sweeney. Ugh....."
- JIwasinskiJr

I wonder if we can pry away someone from St. Louis. Backes is going to get a raise, Scwartz is going to get PAID, they already have statsny, tarasenko and steen totalling just over 20 million. Plus Lehtera's contract and Berglund another 7 million. ANd Brower, Ott, paajarvi, brodziak, upshall to resign.

PLus at D there's Pie, Shat and Bou. Maybe they are forced to move Shattenkirk?

Boston's first, Morrow and some forward prospect?

I wonder if we can pry away someone from St. Louis. Backes is going to get a raise, Scwartz is going to get PAID, they already have statsny, tarasenko and steen totalling just over 20 million. Plus Lehtera's contract and Berglund another 7 million. ANd Brower, Ott, paajarvi, brodziak, upshall to resign.

PLus at D there's Pie, Shat and Bou. Maybe they are forced to move Shattenkirk?

Boston's first, Morrow and some forward prospect?
- Videoj

Stl makes sense to trade with cus they're cap strapped and have D to spare. It's gonna take a helluva lot more than some spare parts and a pick to get Shattenkirk though. People will probably say it's too much but I think it would take something like Spooner CMiller and a 1st to get it done. Maybe they could even get the rights to Backes and sign him?

Stl makes sense to trade with cus they're cap strapped and have D to spare. It's gonna take a helluva lot more than some spare parts and a pick to get Shattenkirk though. People will probably say it's too much but I think it would take something like Spooner CMiller and a 1st to get it done. Maybe they could even get the rights to Backes and sign him?
- Shaundre93

I was going to mention getting backes but thought everyone would hate me trying to fill forward depth instead of defense lol

I was going to mention getting backes but thought everyone would hate me trying to fill forward depth instead of defense lol
- Videoj

Lol, nah, they need to replace loui and wanna get heavier on the right side. Can't think of a better (available) guy than Backes to fill that spot. He's definitely a Bruin type

Lol, nah, they need to replace loui and wanna get heavier on the right side. Can't think of a better (available) guy than Backes to fill that spot. He's definitely a Bruin type
- Shaundre93

If they don't have the money to sign Louie, do they have the money for backes though? Can't imagine backes signs for under 6million. Would love him though

Stl makes sense to trade with cus they're cap strapped and have D to spare. It's gonna take a helluva lot more than some spare parts and a pick to get Shattenkirk though. People will probably say it's too much but I think it would take something like Spooner CMiller and a 1st to get it done. Maybe they could even get the rights to Backes and sign him?
- Shaundre93

The Shattenkirk idea works. That's where I would wonder if Rask would make sense.

The other thing about Shatty is that he only has one season remaining on his deal and becomes a UFA.

Would think a Lucic type deal for him would work if Rask or Krejci wasn't on the table.

A 1st and Spooner or C. Miller and a lesser prospect like a Morrow or Trotman might work.........

So what you said would probably be along the same lines I would think. Although Spoons and C. Miller are RFA and under control, unlike Shatty will be.

The Shattenkirk idea works. That's where I would wonder if Rask would make sense.

The other thing about Shatty is that he only has one season remaining on his deal and becomes a UFA.

Would think a Lucic type deal for him would work if Rask or Krejci wasn't on the table.

A 1st and Spooner or C. Miller and a lesser prospect like a Morrow or Trotman might work.........

So what you said would probably be along the same lines I would think. Although Spoons and C. Miller are RFA and under control, unlike Shatty will be.
- JIwasinskiJr

Unless Elliot or Allen comes back, Rask makes no sense. Plus Blues don't have the cap space for Rask. Unless they trade the rights to Backes or something. But I doubt Boston does something that monumental.

More I think about it, more that Rask to Blues makes no sense. They have two good goalies at 3 million each. Why would they add a 7 million dollar goalie...

Unless Elliot or Allen comes back, Rask makes no sense. Plus Blues don't have the cap space for Rask. Unless they trade the rights to Backes or something. But I doubt Boston does something that monumental.

More I think about it, more that Rask to Blues makes no sense. They have two good goalies at 3 million each. Why would they add a 7 million dollar goalie...
- Videoj

Rask to Calgary for a 1st and 2nds

OEL puts wasabi in his cocaine because Jarret Stoll doesnt even lift.


---glove_was_stuck
- dothedougie

I was going to mention getting backes but thought everyone would hate me trying to fill forward depth instead of defense lol
- Videoj

The Flyers did that for years. Worked great.

A little bird mentioned that Dougie wanted out of Boston because of Something to do with Kelly Olynyk. Thoughts anyone?

A little bird mentioned that Dougie wanted out of Boston because of Something to do with Kelly Olynyk. Thoughts anyone?
- shoreorrpark

Lets get drunk?

Lets get drunk?
- dothedougie

Nah. I'm more of a weekend binge kinda guy.

Nah. I'm more of a weekend binge kinda guy.
- shoreorrpark

- dothedougie

Fantastic! I watched Animal House on Saturday night, after the games

On a side note, I think Jagr should receive the Masterson trophy every year starting this year until he retires in 2026.

Lets get drunk?
- dothedougie

YES! Booger sugar?!

Unless Elliot or Allen comes back, Rask makes no sense. Plus Blues don't have the cap space for Rask. Unless they trade the rights to Backes or something. But I doubt Boston does something that monumental.

More I think about it, more that Rask to Blues makes no sense. They have two good goalies at 3 million each. Why would they add a 7 million dollar goalie...
- Videoj

Backes is an UFA isn't he?

And it looks like maybe the Blues want to go in a different direction.

It was more of an example of the type of player the Bs should be looking to grab and one of the players they may need to trade.

Rask may not work, but maybe Krejci would? Blues need offense and maybe a "clutch" playoff performer would be something the Blues would jump at.......maybe a Marchand.........

In the end, if the Bs improve there D considerably, then they will likely need to send a player like Rask, Krejci, Pasta, Spooner and maybe even a Marchand the other way.

Just don't see them getting a top pair guy for couple picks and some lesser prospects (Koko, Morrow, Trotman, etc. are not worth much at this point, probably a 3-4th round pick at the most.)

Just spitballing, as there isn't much Bs hockey to watch right now.

Backes is an UFA isn't he?

And it looks like maybe the Blues want to go in a different direction, since they fired there coach.

It was more of an example of the type of player the Bs should be looking to grab and one of the players they may need to trade.

Rask may not work, but maybe Krejci would?

In the end, if the Bs improve there D considerably, like they need to then a player like Rask, Krejci, Pasta, Spooner and maybe even a Marchand will be moved.

Just don't see them getting a top pair guy for couple picks and some lesser prospects (Koko, Morrow, Trotman, etc. are not worth much at this point, probably a 3-4th round pick at the most.)

Just spitballing, as there isn't much Bs hickey to watch right now.
- JIwasinskiJr

Probably a better chance of finding a trade partner in Anaheim. Fowler has some tremendous upside as does Theodore. Again, they may not get us over the hump next year, but looking forward...

Probably a better chance of finding a trade partner in Anaheim. Fowler has some tremendous upside as does Theodore. Again, they may not get us over the hump next year, but looking forward...
- shoreorrpark

Ugh.........hence the importance of young potential stud D-men.

Needles in haystacks. Most are drafted with the top 10 overall picks.........

Fowlers and Shatterkirks are more offensive defenseman too aren't they? Better defensively than Krug, but still more in line with him than the Seidenberg's or Chara's or Boychucks............

I wouldn't mind it, but wonder how they would workout with Clode Vader?

Ugh.........hence the importance of young potential stud D-men.

Needles in haystacks. Most are drafted with the top 10 overall picks.........

Fowlers and Shatterkirks are more offensive defenseman too aren't they? Better defensively than Krug, but still more in line with him than the Seidenberg's or Chara's or Boychucks............

I wouldn't mind it, but wonder how they would workout with Clode Vader?
- JIwasinskiJr

Claude seems hesitant to roll the kids out, but you never know, he has been forced to evolve into a more of a run and gun style offense.
I like the idea of matching a guy like Krug with a bruising stay at home type of defender. Then do the same with the other 2 pairings. Offense kills. The Bruins have the right idea, they're just short on talent. C. Miller is the same type of player as Krug, he just needs more games under his belt in order to develop. I'm still hoping Morrow can be the same kind of guy but, I'm not that optimistic anymore.

I don't know why we aren't counting c. Miller as a young stud defender. I think he has the speed and skill to be a number 2 at least. He can't be ruled out as such

I don't know why we aren't counting c. Miller as a young stud defender. I think he has the speed and skill to be a number 2 at least. He can't be ruled out as such
- Videoj

Under CLOAD he is a number two guy that looks good in a suit from the pressbox, or in Providence.

I don't know why we aren't counting c. Miller as a young stud defender. I think he has the speed and skill to be a number 2 at least. He can't be ruled out as such
- Videoj

I think he's gonna be a solid top 2-4 guy. He already has the talent. Just needs to round out his game and that comes with experience.

Exactly. That's why I believe unloading SO much for Dumba is unnecessary. Yes he is probably going to be better than Miller (and is now), but I think all they really should be targeting is one #1 or 2 defender. Getting a Shattenkirk, Scandella, Josi (yeah right, I know) will give us the "rebuild on the fly" presence we need. They can help Miller and Morrow develop into key players while Chara and Seids's contracts expire.

The top 9 hopefully remain intact and grow together during this time as well. Or send Spooner or whoever it is away for Shatty, and fill that spot with Debrusk or Senyshen.