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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 29 @ 1:15 PM ET


Can we just get him playing full time 1st?

- mdw7413

As we discussed yesterday, playing progression is linear. McIlrath's game improved 200% year over year, therefore he will improve 200% each year for the next 8 years.

He will likely be the NHL's first defenseman to score 400 points.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
General Fanager
‏@generalfanager

51 players currently have NMCs that would have to be protected for a possible 2017-18 expansion draft. Full list:
http://www.generalfanager...m/clauses?clauseyear=2017


this is wrong, nevermind this list, I know Stepan doesn't have one

http://www.nydailynews.co...on-deal-article-1.2305283

Stepan said the contract includes a full no-trade clause in years three and four and a 15-team limited no-trade clause for years five and six. He is not eligible for a no-trade clause in years one and two, which would have been restricted free agency years.

- jimbro83

There's no doubt only MStaal, G and Henrik got NMC's going forward... Agree?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
As we discussed yesterday, playing progression is linear. McIlrath's game improved 200% year over year, therefore he will improve 200% each year for the next 8 years.

He will likely be the NHL's first defenseman to score 400 points.

- rangerdanger94

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 29 @ 1:16 PM ET
There's no doubt only MStaal, G and Henrik got NMC's going forward... Agree?
- 21peter


yeah, agreed
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
As much of a pain in the ass as this cap stuff is, it does add parity to the league...outside of the poopshow that is the Oilers front office.

...and the Snow/Wang era...that was quality entertainment.

Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
It's my understanding that they have already cleared a wing in the HoF for him
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
yeah, agreed
- jimbro83

So, have you decided yet who's gonna leave...?

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
So, have you decided yet who's gonna leave...?
- 21peter


I was just thinking that this NMC expansion rule not only should guarantee a buyout of Girardi, but maybe even Marc Staal.

They can't be forced to protect Marc Staal and leave someone better exposed IMO
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 29 @ 1:24 PM ET
I was just thinking that this NMC expansion rule not only should guarantee a buyout of Girardi, but maybe even Marc Staal.

They can't be forced to protect Marc Staal and leave someone better exposed IMO

- jimbro83

What are the protection rules exactly?
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 29 @ 1:25 PM ET
But on the flip side a team that purposely pays someone who will never play again should have it count.
- mdw7413



Can't buy out an injured player. Devils have no options, he is there until the contract runs out.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 29 @ 1:26 PM ET
Ran out to lunch and caught RD taking his GF and his buddy for a ride in his new "Infiniti"

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
I was just thinking that this NMC expansion rule not only should guarantee a buyout of Girardi, but maybe even Marc Staal.

They can't be forced to protect Marc Staal and leave someone better exposed IMO

- jimbro83

Who would pick him up at 5.7M per the next 4 though...? After all he's a pirate
Edit: Reading your comment again, - please explain jimbo
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Apr 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
Who would pick him up at 5.7M per the next 4 though...? After all he's a pirate
Edit: Reading your comment again, - please explain jimbo

- 21peter



If the Rangers were to buy Staal out another team can sign him for significantly less.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
What are the protection rules exactly?
- rangerdanger94



http://sports.yahoo.com/b...nhl--nhlpa-153933538.html

You know what, reading that, it seems teams can ask players to waive NMCs before the draft. No one is taking Staal or Clowe Or Girardi, so I think some teams would be in the clear. They only use the term "involuntary relocation"
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Apr 29 @ 1:32 PM ET
Can't buy out an injured player. Devils have no options, he is there until the contract runs out.
- smellmyfinger



Can a player be bought out that plays like he's injured?

smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 29 @ 1:34 PM ET
Can a player be bought out that plays like he's injured?


- MidnightMarauder



Yes. They call that the Girardi rule I believe.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
If the Rangers were to buy Staal out another team can sign him for significantly less.
- MidnightMarauder

Just like always...?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
Who would pick him up at 5.7M per the next 4 though...? After all he's a pirate
Edit: Reading your comment again, - please explain jimbo

- 21peter


the rules seem to be if a player has a NMC the team is required to protect them in the expansion draft, you only get a limited number of players to protect

so, the Rangers could be in a position where they have to protect Dan Girardi and Marc Staal while leaving a significant player exposed because they run out of protected slots
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
the rules seem to be if a player has a NMC the team is required to protect them in the expansion draft, you only get a limited number of players to protect

so, the Rangers could be in a position where they have to protect Dan Girardi and Marc Staal while leaving a significant player exposed because they run out of protected slots

- jimbro83

If the Rangers took the option where you protect 7F, 3D, and 1G...they'd have to burn two protected defenseman slots on 5/18. You'd have to figure the other would be used on McDonagh...leaving Skjei, McIlrath and Klein exposed.

They could go the 8 skaters and 1 goalie route too. Regardless, if I'm Gorton I'd be begging Dolan for permission to buy out Girardi and begging Staal to accept a trade to one of his brother's teams.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
the rules seem to be if a player has a NMC the team is required to protect them in the expansion draft, you only get a limited number of players to protect

so, the Rangers could be in a position where they have to protect Dan Girardi and Marc Staal while leaving a significant player exposed because they run out of protected slots

- jimbro83

I know the rules, just don't have the energy to look it up right now...
Hate this long f'n off season
Anyways jimbo... Thx for all the great info (specially the old stories ) this season.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
If the Rangers took the option where you protect 7F, 3D, and 1G...they'd have to burn two protected defenseman slots on 5/18. You'd have to figure the other would be used on McDonagh...leaving Skjei, McIlrath and Klein exposed.

They could go the 8 skaters and 1 goalie route too. Regardless, if I'm Gorton I'd be begging Dolan for permission to buy out Girardi and begging Staal to accept a trade to one of his brother's teams.

- eichiefs9


the weird thing is that Girardi turns into a NTC on July 1st, 2017, so another factor is exactly when an expansion draft would be held, would it be before the draft? after July 1?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 29 @ 2:03 PM ET
the weird thing is that Girardi turns into a NTC on July 1st, 2017, so another factor is exactly when an expansion draft would be held, would it be before the draft? after July 1?
- jimbro83

I'm sure bett?man wouldn't know
nyrsucks
Florida Panthers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Apr 29 @ 2:04 PM ET
Afternoon gents....
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 29 @ 2:08 PM ET
Afternoon gents....
- nyrsucks

smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 29 @ 2:13 PM ET

- 21peter



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