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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
I am. But don't tell me trading Mcdonagh for Draisaitl and Kid that is 2 years away isn't blowing it up. Blow the whole thing up than.
- tomburton99

Gotcha.

I think McD is the probably the only untouchable player we have to be honest so it's kind of a moot discussion
Mr.Honcho
New Jersey Devils
Location: Something I want to get off my chest. Its about that summer, when you went away to community college, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2016

Apr 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Or Joe's Crab Shack
- eichiefs9



MayPax
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Apr 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
No, no, no. The guy that owns the Wings also owns the Detroit Tigers...... and Little Ceasers pizza.

Edit: I'm L8. Pulled RD.

- tomburton99

I'll let it slide.
Okay, that makes it even worse!
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
I'll let it slide.
Okay, that makes it even worse!

- Fenrir

Little Caesers net worth.... 1.5 billion. Thank goodness I live in NJ were you can go north or south and get good pizza. Idk if you've tried Pizza in the Carolina's Georgia, Florida etc. It's terrible.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
Little Caesers net worth.... 1.5 billion. Thank goodness I live in NJ were you can go north or south and get good pizza. Idk if you've tried Pizza in the Carolina's Georgia, Florida etc. It's terrible.
- tomburton99

I live next to the pizza place that was in The Sopranos. It's closed down now though
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Anybody excited for the NFL draft tonight
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
do any of these Corsi bloggers have a Master's Degree in Mathematics?

http://www.indeed.com/vie...reios&jk=e8266ce21250d9a4
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Apr 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
Anybody excited for the NFL draft tonight
- tomburton99


Only excited to see Mel Kipers hair
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
Anybody excited for the NFL draft tonight
- tomburton99

Honestly? No.



I'll check to see who the Giants drafted about, oh...8 hours after the draft starts and then I will agree or disagree with the pick based on my extensive football knowledge, which many experts have described as "none".
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
No, I don't know what it is, this is my opinion. But, after watching 2 seasons I think I know the type of player he is and producing or no, I don't think we need him as much as the other two. Everyone swoons over his magic mitts, but he NEVER plays tough and doesn't bust his ass to cover his guy. We need more players that have a complete game, which I think JT will have and Kreider is closer to having (i.e. toughness).
- Tonybere


Miller right now is the best of the bunch. Kreider has had enough time to figure it out. Apparently its ok he takes the regular season off. Hayes is a center. We need a center. You say Hayes isn't physical yet when he has the puck the opposing team almost never steals it from him. I guess if Hayes just ran around hitting people he would be a favorite.

You say he doesn't cover his guys, yet his rookie year everyone was impressed by his defense.

I'm not going to defend anything he did this year, but the fact people want him gone after 2 years, one of them being a good rookie year, is so (frank)ing mind boggling to me. Lets get rid of every young player who doesn't do well after their 2nd year.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
Only excited to see Mel Kipers hair
- Slimtj100

Does it ever change?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
Miller right now is the best of the bunch. Kreider has had enough time to figure it out. Apparently its ok he takes the regular season off. Hayes is a center. We need a center. You say Hayes isn't physical yet when he has the puck the opposing team almost never steals it from him. I guess if Hayes just ran around hitting people he would be a favorite.

You say he doesn't cover his guys, yet his rookie year everyone was impressed by his defense.

I'm not going to defend anything he did this year, but the fact people want him gone after 2 years, one of them being a good rookie year, is so (frank)ing mind boggling to me. Lets get rid of every young player who doesn't do well after their 2nd year.

- mdw7413

Blow it up.


mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 28 @ 12:03 PM ET
Blow it up.



- tomburton99

nyrsucks
Florida Panthers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Apr 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
Afternoon Brethren, Yawn... don't mind me, just peeking in and catching up on all the extremely interesting comments....
nyrsucks
Florida Panthers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Apr 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
Afternoon Brethren, Yawn... don't mind me, just peeking in and catching up on all the extremely interesting comments....
Anthony5967
New York Rangers
Location: “The heart of the team beats through the Blueshirts’ Blue Line Big Three — Ryan McDonagh, Dan , NY
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
2 days till Buchnevich's KHL deal is over . Can't wait till its official.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 28 @ 12:07 PM ET

- mdw7413

Seriously If I had my way, I'd trade one of Kreider or Hayes to Boston along with Yandle's Right for for Senshyan, Kocklachev and a like a 4th.

The other of Kreider or Hayes to PHX for Hanzel

Brassard to MTL for Desharnes and prospect or a pick

Nash to whoever wants him.

Lundqvist to Dallas

The Rangers would stink but they'd restock are barren prospect pool, get a couple of more picks and better the 1st round pick in 2017.

Edit: The Bruins don't have a 4th this year so it'd have to be a 5th or a 4th next year.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
2 days till Buchnevich's KHL deal is over . Can't wait till its official.
- Anthony5967


the other day Brassard was quoted as saying we are gonna get that Russian kid, so, hopefully it's done ASAP
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
Seriously If I had my way, I'd trade one of Kreider or Hayes to Boston along with Yandle's Right for for Senshyan, Kocklachev and a like a 4th.

The other of Kreider or Hayes to PHX for Hanzel

Brassard to MTL for Desharnes and prospect or a pick

Nash to whoever wants him.

Lundqvist to Dallas

The Rangers would stink but they'd restock are barren prospect pool, get a couple of more picks and better the 1st round pick in 2017.

Edit: The Bruins don't have a 4th this year so it'd have to be a 5th or a 4th next year.

- tomburton99



You definitely want to blow this poop up Tom.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 28 @ 12:12 PM ET
Seriously If I had my way, I'd trade one of Kreider or Hayes to Boston along with Yandle's Right for for Senshyan, Kocklachev and a like a 4th.

The other of Kreider or Hayes to PHX for Hanzel

Brassard to MTL for Desharnes and prospect or a pick

Nash to whoever wants him.

Lundqvist to Dallas

The Rangers would stink but they'd restock are barren prospect pool, get a couple of more picks and better the 1st round pick in 2017.

Edit: The Bruins don't have a 4th this year so it'd have to be a 5th or a 4th next year.

- tomburton99

(frank)ing Hiroshima over here
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
You definitely want to blow this poop up Tom.
- mdw7413

I know it's impossible but what are we doing discussing trading Mcdonagh, Hayes, Kreider, Nash etc. Get Buchnevich over here, get some draft picks and hopefully find a few gems.

Look at what the Flyers are doing? They drafted a ton of D-men and have 5 picks in the first 3 round this year. So you gotta they think they'll spend a few of them on some forwards.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
(frank)ing Hiroshima over here
- rangerdanger94

Go full rebuild or die with mediocrity,.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Apr 28 @ 12:15 PM ET
Blow it up.



- tomburton99


I would not say that I want him gone, but change has to come from somewhere. I am saying I feel that he is the one that gives the best combination of return and being able to live without him.
And when I say toughness, it isn't just about throwing the body with reckless abandon. It's about being difficult to play against, in all aspects. I would swear sometimes I heard Hayes apologize to people out there! Except he's not Canadian.
And believe me, I wish we had more Canadians on the team!
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
Go full rebuild or die with mediocrity,.
- tomburton99

You know how GMs always say they want to take some time to assess the situation so they don't make any knee jerk decisions? I think your plan kind of qualifies as a knee jerk decision
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 28 @ 12:19 PM ET
In the blow it up scenario I think it really only pays off to move:

1) players who can net more than they offer which is rare and usually at the deadline

2) players who are aging and won't be around long enough to be productive when the team returns to contention

3) players who do not perform up to their cap value

McD, Stepan, Brassard, Zucc, and presumably Miller are all young enough and perform at or above than their contracts. Makes no sense to entertain it unless some GM loses their mind and offers a ransom

Unfortunately the guys who meet those criteria all have NTC/NMC making it tough to move them...funny how it works out that the only guys you would want to move are the same ones who have clauses preventing it
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