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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Apr 27 @ 5:23 PM ET
Does it matter ?
- belcherbd

yes, because if he can put up those numbers why isn't he taken 1st round?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 5:25 PM ET
yes, because if he can put up those numbers why isn't he taken 1st round?
- Retinalz


Most sites have him predicted to go late first so he very likely will be gone by then but is a talent like that a no brainer at 33?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 27 @ 5:28 PM ET
Most sites have him predicted to go late first so he very likely will be gone by then but is a talent like that a no brainer at 33?
- belcherbd

OK I'll bite..................yes?
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Apr 27 @ 5:30 PM ET
OK I'll bite..................yes?
- A_SteamingLombardi

His shooting % is 0.1% . Ha! got em!
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 5:36 PM ET
His shooting % is 0.1% . Ha! got em!
- pker2theend


Ya but that means he would of had over 5000 shots in a season
WhiteLie
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Apr 27 @ 5:41 PM ET
His shooting % is 0.1% . Ha! got em!
- pker2theend

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 5:46 PM ET
OK I'll bite..................yes?
- A_SteamingLombardi


http://thehockeywriters.c...s-2016-nhl-draft-profile/

Didn't know much about him before reading this today and was shocked to see how productive he has been.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 27 @ 5:55 PM ET
Ya but that means he would of had over 5000 shots in a season
- belcherbd

In liquor , possible

In hockey, not possible
WhiteLie
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Apr 27 @ 5:57 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/alex-debrincat-the-next-ones-2016-nhl-draft-profile/

Didn't know much about him before reading this today and was shocked to see how productive he has been.

- belcherbd


(I think I am thinking of the same guy here...) He had a little hype at the WJC's before he was injured, big point producer but small guy. I think Bob Mac had good things to say about his build and expectations heading into the draft, to me he's an intriguing case. Playing with McDavid and Strome in the OHL would help numbers, (though I expect a better career than someone like Dane Fox ) but I am concerned with size in the West. If the Canucks haven't taken a Defenseman by then, I would rather take that shot I think
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 11.29.2011

Apr 27 @ 5:58 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/alex-debrincat-the-next-ones-2016-nhl-draft-profile/

Didn't know much about him before reading this today and was shocked to see how productive he has been.

- belcherbd

I want him
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
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Apr 27 @ 5:59 PM ET
(I think I am thinking of the same guy here...) He had a little hype at the WJC's before he was injured, big point producer but small guy. I think Bob Mac had good things to say about his build and expectations heading into the draft, to me he's an intriguing case. Playing with McDavid and Strome in the OHL would help numbers, (though I expect a better career than someone like Dane Fox ) but I am concerned with size in the West. If the Canucks haven't taken a Defenseman by then, I would rather take that shot I think
- WhiteLie

He's at 50 games this year too without them
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Apr 27 @ 6:02 PM ET
I have the Predators winning a close one in OT 2-1

2nd Round Predictions:

- Washington running away against Pittsburg in 5 games (OV wants this one)
- Islanders in 7 (Momentum is everything sometimes)
- St. Louis in 6 (See Islanders)
- Nashville in 6 (San Jose last gasp gets choked off)

3rd Round:

- Washington in 6 (Islanders aren't there yet)
- Nashville in 7 (Nashville and St. Louis are due for a breakthrough but Nashville has the better defense and a slight edge in goal.

Cup Finals:

- Nashville in 7 (This one would be a pickem on the Las Vegas sports books, Washington looks like the uncrowned kings of the NHL with how they ran away with the President's Trophy, but I see this like the 2011 Final where Boston ended up taking advantage of a soft group that was riddled with injuries due to physical play, great goaltending and intimidation in their own building.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 6:04 PM ET
He's at 50 games this year too without them
- pker2theend


Goals? but Strome is still on the team, other than though I don't believe they had a really stacked team.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
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Apr 27 @ 6:05 PM ET
Goals? but Strome is still on the team, other than though I don't believe they had a really stacked team.
- belcherbd

Yes.
WhiteLie
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Apr 27 @ 6:05 PM ET
He's at 50 games this year too without them
- pker2theend


He's apparently still riding shotgun to Strome this year

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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 6:10 PM ET
(I think I am thinking of the same guy here...) He had a little hype at the WJC's before he was injured, big point producer but small guy. I think Bob Mac had good things to say about his build and expectations heading into the draft, to me he's an intriguing case. Playing with McDavid and Strome in the OHL would help numbers, (though I expect a better career than someone like Dane Fox ) but I am concerned with size in the West. If the Canucks haven't taken a Defenseman by then, I would rather take that shot I think
- WhiteLie


I think all things being equal a defenseman makes the most sense in that spot but there are a few forwards who could end up there that would change that for me.

He is definitely a risk but very few players have put those numbers up. I would prefer to risk a 2nd on a player who scored 50 as 16 year old rookie over a 23 year old AHL allstar.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/alex-debrincat-the-next-ones-2016-nhl-draft-profile/

Didn't know much about him before reading this today and was shocked to see how productive he has been.

- belcherbd

5'7, and we whine about Subban being 5'9.
WhiteLie
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Apr 27 @ 6:21 PM ET
I think all things being equal a defenseman makes the most sense in that spot but there are a few forwards who could end up there that would change that for me.

He is definitely a risk but very few players have put those numbers up. I would prefer to risk a 2nd on a player who scored 50 as 16 year old rookie over a 23 year old AHL allstar.

- belcherbd


It would be a hard choice for me. I don't downplay how impressive back to back 50 goal seasons are in any league, and especially doing it at his age. I just really would be hesitant on his size. If it turns out he was a good athlete but reliant on McDavid or Stome passes and cant score on his own, he may struggle playing bottom 6. Whereas picking someone with more size (like Gaunce for a bad example) can be utilized as a forechecker be effective physically. He could also turn into a Gaudreau and be the player that drives production on his line.

If the Canucks grab Cagguilia, then I say pass, but if he remains there at 33 I would think hard about which D are available
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 6:21 PM ET
5'7, and we whine about Subban being 5'9.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Some do.... I agree he is small but while 2 inches important in some applications..... I don't buy that there is a difference between 5'7 and 5'9 when talking about hockey players.

pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Apr 27 @ 6:21 PM ET
I'd like JB to go hard for another 1st rounder. I feel like a good player will fall in the draft
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
It would be a hard choice for me. I don't downplay how impressive back to back 50 goal seasons are in any league, and especially doing it at his age. I just really would be hesitant on his size. If it turns out he was a good athlete but reliant on McDavid or Stome passes and cant score on his own, he may struggle playing bottom 6. Whereas picking someone with more size (like Gaunce for a bad example) can be utilized as a forechecker be effective physically. He could also turn into a Gaudreau and be the player that drives production on his line.

If the Canucks grab Cagguilia, then I say pass, but if he remains there at 33 I would think hard about which D are available

- WhiteLie


I hear you but I think we need more high risk/ high reward players.

We haven't swung for the fences with an early pick since Grabner.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 27 @ 6:29 PM ET
I have the Predators winning a close one in OT 2-1

2nd Round Predictions:

- Washington running away against Pittsburg in 5 games (OV wants this one)
- Islanders in 7 (Momentum is everything sometimes)
- St. Louis in 6 (See Islanders)
- Nashville in 6 (San Jose last gasp gets choked off)

3rd Round:

- Washington in 6 (Islanders aren't there yet)
- Nashville in 7 (Nashville and St. Louis are due for a breakthrough but Nashville has the better defense and a slight edge in goal.

Cup Finals:

- Nashville in 7 (This one would be a pickem on the Las Vegas sports books, Washington looks like the uncrowned kings of the NHL with how they ran away with the President's Trophy, but I see this like the 2011 Final where Boston ended up taking advantage of a soft group that was riddled with injuries due to physical play, great goaltending and intimidation in their own building.

- DariusKnight

That would be a great series.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 6:30 PM ET
I'd like JB to go hard for another 1st rounder. I feel like a good player will fall in the draft
- pker2theend


Don't think we have the assets.

Shink and the 33rd might of been able to swing a late first.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
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Apr 27 @ 6:37 PM ET
Don't think we have the assets.

Shink and the 33rd might of been able to swing a late first.

- belcherbd

Hansen or hamhuis rights + pick come to mind for a late first rounder
WhiteLie
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Apr 27 @ 6:39 PM ET
Hansen or hamhuis rights + pick come to mind for a late first rounder
- pker2theend


I really hope they try to make Hansen for a mid to late 1st a real possibility, seems like the perfect time to sell high and for a team wanting to contend next season to add a guy like him to their lineup
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