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RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
Like having 3rd liners play on the 2nd line, it's always been a problem here.

Man it would be nice to get a top pairing Dman in this draft if we don't pick top 3.

- golfingsince

it's the organization's white whale.

if they can get a solid 1st pairing Dman (even if he's not a true #1), it would stabilize the d unit as a whole. a 25 minute guy will make the rest of the d look "underrated."
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
Like having 3rd liners play on the 2nd line, it's always been a problem here.

Man it would be nice to get a top pairing Dman in this draft if we don't pick top 3.

- golfingsince

Or a coach who could turn 3rd pairing d-men into Lidstrom and Orr.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
About 14 cubits. Really, anything under 15 cubits isn't ideal.
- CubanBuffet

How's the new one doing?
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
it's the organization's white whale.

if they can get a solid 1st pairing Dman (even if he's not a true #1), it would stabilize the d unit as a whole. a 25 minute guy will make the rest of the d look "underrated."

- RealityChecker


I agree. I also believe finding and developing a true #1 could turn the blueline into a position of strength rather quickly.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Apr 28 @ 1:33 PM ET
Like having 3rd liners play on the 2nd line, it's always been a problem here.

Man it would be nice to get a top pairing Dman in this draft if we don't pick top 3.

- golfingsince

My guess is we're going to pick 5th overall, and we'll take Dubois. JB will start looking for defensemen in the second round and onwards. We need big forwards that can score just as much as mobile offensive minded defense.
golfingsince
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Apr 28 @ 1:33 PM ET
Or a coach who could turn 3rd pairing d-men into Lidstrom and Orr.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Rusty sword syndrome.
golfingsince
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Apr 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
My guess is we're going to pick 5th overall, and we'll take Dubois. JB will start looking for defensemen in the second round and onwards. We need big forwards that can score just as much as mobile offensive minded defense.
- we_are_all_canucks


If we keep grabbing forwards in the 1st round at some point we'll begin to look like the Oilers.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
If we keep grabbing forwards in the 1st round at some point we'll begin to look like the Oilers.
- golfingsince

drafting based on need seems great in theory but dangerous as fcuk when dealing with top 10 picks who could be franchise building blocks.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:48 PM ET
If we keep grabbing forwards in the 1st round at some point we'll begin to look like the Oilers.
- golfingsince


Tell that to Nashville, Montreal and Chicago
golfingsince
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Apr 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
drafting based on need seems great in theory but dangerous as fcuk when dealing with top 10 picks who could be franchise building blocks.
- RealityChecker


It's not like picking a D over somebody who's considered a much better prospect. The three D are rated 7,8,9.
golfingsince
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Apr 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
Tell that to Nashville, Montreal and Chicago
- Codes1087


The only team that won anything picked Seabrook in the 1st.

Also, LA.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:54 PM ET
The only team that won anything picked Seabrook in the 1st.

Also, LA.

- golfingsince


so all in all, you are hoping we draft a D-men if we select 4/5?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:54 PM ET
If we keep grabbing forwards in the 1st round at some point we'll begin to look like the Oilers.
- golfingsince


I'm probably starting to sound like Dragon...but, we need scoring more than anything else. We desperately need players with first line potential. D can come from anywhere. See Larson, Stetcher, Tree etc
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:55 PM ET
It's not like picking a D over somebody who's considered a much better prospect. The three D are rated 7,8,9.
- golfingsince

as long as benning picks the best guy in the long run, i'll be happy. otherwise, i'm going to pick every guy picked after us and say, "gee, why the eff didn't benning choose that guy???!?!?!?"

we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
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Apr 28 @ 1:56 PM ET
It's not like picking a D over somebody who's considered a much better prospect. The three D are rated 7,8,9.
- golfingsince

Who would you take at fifth?
golfingsince
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Apr 28 @ 1:57 PM ET
so all in all, you are hoping we draft a D-men if we select 4/5?
- Codes1087


Tkachuk would be intriguing....otherwise I'd like Chychrun even though I think Juolevi is a safer pick I think the big kid has the most potential to be a #1.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Apr 28 @ 1:58 PM ET
It's not like picking a D over somebody who's considered a much better prospect. The three D are rated 7,8,9.
- golfingsince


The top forwards are all considered a step ahead of the top D prospects. Dmen tend to take longer to develop and are harder to identify who will be a difference maker early in their careers. Keith, Weber, Chara are 2nd round picks. It's safer to take the know quality 1st round, pick up the greater variance picks in later rounds.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Apr 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
as long as benning picks the best guy in the long run, i'll be happy. otherwise, i'm going to pick every guy picked after us and say, "gee, why the eff didn't benning choose that guy???!?!?!?"


- RealityChecker


That's just being a good fan. I'd expect nothing less from any of us.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
drafting based on need seems great in theory but dangerous as fcuk when dealing with top 10 picks who could be franchise building blocks.
- RealityChecker


I think need should play a role, we need a dman but if a forward is available that is so much better, more of an impact player, higher ceiling, yada yada. you have to go with the forward. Top line centre would be great, but a sniper who plays the wing can have just as big an impact. I'd wonder if a dman moved up into the top 6 is if it is because of need or if the dman impressed in interviews or if the club always had the dman ranked higher?

With all the rankings from different sources/people made public, it is interesting when see deviations from consistent rankings. Lots of pressure to make the right pick after tanking for a year and see if the silver lining turns out to be a franchise building block or a big log.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:02 PM ET
as long as benning picks the best guy in the long run, i'll be happy. otherwise, i'm going to pick every guy picked after us and say, "gee, why the eff didn't benning choose that guy???!?!?!?"


- RealityChecker

Can't wait to see who this years Phucker is going to be.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
That's just being a good fan. I'd expect nothing less from any of us.
- micah555


Remember when Benning drafted Boeser, and the player comparable on the sportsnet broadcast said "Top 6 forward" and no one knew ANYTHING about him. I think we just need to trust his scouting skills. Whatever the Canucks choose, we cannot criticize until we have seen the player play 2/3 years as a NHL regular.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
as long as benning picks the best guy in the long run, i'll be happy. otherwise, i'm going to pick every guy picked after us and say, "gee, why the eff didn't benning choose that guy???!?!?!?"


- RealityChecker




it is hard not to do this when you watch the draft and the commentators will be saying for the picks after, stuff like, "we are surprised this kid fell this far", "who would have guessed this kid would be available at this pick"?

playing the long game if these guys need some developing so an even longer game with dmen.

top 3 could help now.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 28 @ 2:06 PM ET
Can't wait to see who this years Phucker is going to be.
- Marwood

I was thinking of throwing my hat into the ring.

A Steaming Phlombardi
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Apr 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
I was thinking of throwing my hat into the ring.

A Steaming Phlombardi

- A_SteamingLombardi

You can count on my vote
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
I was thinking of throwing my hat into the ring.

A Steaming Phlombardi

- A_SteamingLombardi


Subtle circle-back to the sombrero references. Nicely done.
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