RonPielep
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Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer Joined: 08.21.2014
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Do you have access to youtube? (ie: are you on a work computer that blocks it?), if so I'll post the video for you to decide.
i) I don't think I'd consider Condra "defenseless", although it depends on your interpretation of that term. He had just chipped the puck up the boards and Casey came in and nailed him.
ii) I would not say Cizikas tried to minimize contact
ii) Was the hit unavoidable? I guess not? But in that sense, isn't any hit avoidable?
I don't think it's as much poorly defined as it is "loosely" defined so that referees can exercise some degree of judgement based on the players intent. Did Casey intend to hit him? Sure. But I think the room for judgement exists to penalize plays in which the player executing the hit manages to do something blatantly illegal during the act. The hit itself was completely clean, but unfortunately Condra flew back and the boards happened to be there. - eichiefs9
Yeah I just saw it. I think it all hinges on i) and I think i) is debatable in this case. But like I said earlier I think with boarding being such an extreme judgement call the NHL should stand by the refs choice for something as hair-splitting as arguing defenselessness in this case.
I don't think yourself not being prepared to take a hit should be sold as defenseless but then again I'm a victim blamer... |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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I like how Greiss is involved in this game. Deflecting the puck away from the net. He's doing a good job. |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Isles have slipped into the 40 min Cappy Prevent mode |
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Yeah I just saw it. I think it all hinges on i) and I think i) is debatable in this case. But like I said earlier I think with boarding being such an extreme judgement call the NHL should stand by the refs choice for something as hair-splitting as arguing defenselessness in this case.
I don't think yourself not being prepared to take a hit should be sold as defenseless but then again I'm a victim blamer... - RonPielep
I agree about the difference on not being prepared vs. being defenseless. To me, the simple fact that there's so much in question here is evidence enough that the correct (non) call was made.
I don't ever want to see anyone get a concussion and I hope Condra ends up OK. It was genuinely a terrible end result, but I can't find anything Casey did wrong. |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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I like how Greiss is involved in this game. Deflecting the puck away from the bet. He's doing a good job. - Pecafan Fan
He has been lights out thus far. Everything seems to be working for him right now |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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He has been lights out thus far. Everything seems to be working for him right now - keaner17
Yeah. Getting hot at the right time. Pretty cool. |
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NYI44
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 05.18.2013
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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JimmyP
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Location: Snow has melted! Joined: 02.12.2011
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Yeah. Getting hot at the right time. Pretty cool. - Pecafan Fan
He was pretty solid for them all year, though there was a drop off when he played to much. He seems to have worked out that issue. |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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How the hell does a goalie that tall give up a shot like that |
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JohnScammo
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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JT! |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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How the hell does a goalie that tall give up a shot like that - keaner17
(frank) Bishop. And the Bolts. |
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ses111
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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JT! - JohnScammo
Beautiful! |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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(frank) Bishop. And the Bolts. - Pecafan Fan
I think Bishop, himself, (frank)ed the bolts |
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ses111
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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How the hell does a goalie that tall give up a shot like that - keaner17
Sometimes a lot of rest is no good. |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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I think Bishop, himself, (frank)ed the bolts - keaner17
I love it. |
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JimmyP
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Location: Snow has melted! Joined: 02.12.2011
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I think Bishop, himself, (frank)ed the bolts - keaner17
Enjoy it now. You know they will bounce back. |
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jmo16
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Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only! Joined: 02.26.2011
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How the hell does a goalie that tall give up a shot like that - keaner17
Screened by the defenseman. It's tricky to pick up when a player releases the puck near the dman's skates.
Bishop done for the night. |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Isles look real loose now..things just flowing. Got to be careful not to let up. This is why they say the three-goal lead is the worst in hockey |
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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I love it. - Pecafan Fan
Going to go out on a limb here and say you're not the biggest Tampa fan |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Screened by the defenseman. It's tricky to pick up when a player releases the puck near the dman's skates.
Bishop done for the night. - jmo16
You're probably right. Tavares has a very deceptive release where he can pull the puck in and shoot which works great for using the dman as a screen. |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Going to go out on a limb here and say you're not the biggest Tampa fan - eichiefs9
I hate them. Mostly because of Callahan. (frank) I hate that player. And Ben Bishop. Biggest flopper in the league. |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Greiss is just making it look so easy right now |
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Always been a big Bishop fan. |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Always been a big Bishop fan. - Cptmjl
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