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Why ?
- bixll

Give it 20 years and you will see why.

Give it 20 years and you will see why.
- SolidGoldBricks

I will be lucky if I can see in 20 years..

I will be lucky if I can see in 20 years..
- bixll

To be honest, I have no clue why. All that I know is there are a handful of billionaires pumping a ton of money into Detroit and buying up a ton of real estate. They seem to be predicting a comeback.

It's really interesting if you ever find yourself in Detroit -- downtown is actually really nice now. It's just surrounded by filth and squalor. It's been getting better every year for the past decade though, largely in part because of these billionaires. All that I can think is that they have some sort of plan or prediction, because they certainly aren't doing it just because they are sick of Detroit jokes.

Couple of billionaires just announced they're going to build a $1billion MLS stadium in Detroit. Holy woah.
- SolidGoldBricks

The future of subsidised housing in Detroit

To be honest, I have no clue why. All that I know is there are a handful of billionaires pumping a ton of money into Detroit and buying up a ton of real estate. They seem to be predicting a comeback.

It's really interesting if you ever find yourself in Detroit -- downtown is actually really nice now. It's just surrounded by filth and squalor. It's been getting better every year for the past decade though, largely in part because of these billionaires. All that I can think is that they have some sort of plan or prediction, because they certainly aren't doing it just because they are sick of Detroit jokes.
- SolidGoldBricks

I sort of agree because it isn't likely a large city like Detroit can suck for another 2 decades.

I agree with those in the hockey circle comparing Marner to Kane. I think he will be as good as if not better than Kane, in a few years time.
Does anyone know for certain if Laine is a RW or LW? Some hockey draft prospect sites list him as RW, & others list him as LW.
Leafs are heavy on RW with their prospects (with Marner's size I think they will play him on RW), but light on LW & Centre.
- 1967_2015champs

Even Kane was not "as good if not better than Kane" - "in a few years time". Might have the talent. Transitioning the same level from the OHL to the NHL is a giant leap, so maybe tempered expectations might be a better approach.

I wanna see him for 1 year in the AHL with maybe 9 NHL games during the year, before he gets brought up fully.

I know a lot of people are assuming Puljujärvi goes #3, but I do wonder if that is a guarantee... Could Tkachuk go before we pick? I think things get pretty interesting if we're picking 3rd or 4th... if we're 3rd, do we go with Tkachuk? If we're 4th, will he still be there?
- --Lamp--

Be interesting i could almost see the Leafs taking tkachuk over puljujarvi... Tkachuk brings a bit more grit to his game which this team could use.

Even Kane was not "as good if not better than Kane" - "in a few years time". Might have the talent. Transitioning the same level from the OHL to the NHL is a giant leap, so maybe tempered expectations might be a better approach.

I wanna see him for 1 year in the AHL with maybe 9 NHL games during the year, before he gets brought up fully.
- Buggy166

That's what sucks though. He can't go to the AHL for another year. So one more year in the O and then one in the A?

I sort of agree because it isn't likely a large city like Detroit can suck for another 2 decades.
- Aaron_85

Honestly, who knows. There are a lot of young people moving to/back to the city now. I even considered it when I moved apartments recently. The car insurance is still WAY too much there, among some other concerns. Some big companies like Quicken (owner is one of the new MLS owners, also owns the Cleveland Cavs) operating in Detroit making the place better and enticing young people there.

Even Kane was not "as good if not better than Kane" - "in a few years time". Might have the talent. Transitioning the same level from the OHL to the NHL is a giant leap, so maybe tempered expectations might be a better approach.

I wanna see him for 1 year in the AHL with maybe 9 NHL games during the year, before he gets brought up fully.
- Buggy166

Marner is going to have a hard time his first 30-40 games imo. Not going to be able to pull half the poop he does in the O in the big league. It will be a big adjustment for him. Bold prediction is 62GP 11G 21 A for the Leafs next year.

Marner is going to have a hard time his first 30-40 games imo. Not going to be able to pull half the poop he does in the O in the big league. It will be a big adjustment for him. Bold prediction is 62GP 11G 21 A for the Leafs next year.
- orienbrady22

That would be pretty good I think. I agree, I think it will take a couple of seasons for his game to translate before we will see if he's going to be a big time star or not.

Marner is going to have a hard time his first 30-40 games imo. Not going to be able to pull half the poop he does in the O in the big league. It will be a big adjustment for him. Bold prediction is 62GP 11G 21 A for the Leafs next year.
- orienbrady22

Tough to say, I think at the start of the season the rookies out perform the vets as they are not training as hard/as hungry in the early goings...+ rookie camp, and proving their worth. So younger guys like Larkin for example, come out flying, then they get a bit tired/beat up and the veteran players get in their groove and production soars. guys like Giroux are a good example of that.

anyhow, wel see - im always hoping for the best outcome!

To be honest, I have no clue why. All that I know is there are a handful of billionaires pumping a ton of money into Detroit and buying up a ton of real estate. They seem to be predicting a comeback.

It's really interesting if you ever find yourself in Detroit -- downtown is actually really nice now. It's just surrounded by filth and squalor. It's been getting better every year for the past decade though, largely in part because of these billionaires. All that I can think is that they have some sort of plan or prediction, because they certainly aren't doing it just because they are sick of Detroit jokes.
- SolidGoldBricks

The City is broke ass.. For real.. Really broke. I have been there and and have seen it go from busy to empty, back to where it is today. Has a long way to go.

Tough to say, I think at the start of the season the rookies out perform the vets as they are not training as hard/as hungry in the early goings...+ rookie camp, and proving their worth. So younger guys like Larkin for example, come out flying, then they get a bit tired/beat up and the veteran players get in their groove and production soars. guys like Giroux are a good example of that.

anyhow, wel see - im always hoping for the best outcome!
- Lucas.Neilson

If Marner makes the Leafs in October and stays the year, he is not going to the AHL the following season, that's nonsense.

If Marner makes the Leafs in October and stays the year, he is not going to the AHL the following season, that's nonsense.
- LeafMan

complete hogwash

I'll be honest with you Lucas. I'd prefer Laine to Matthews so we can ice:

Laine Nylander Marner.


- walshyleafsfan

could be called the LMN line.

If Marner makes the Leafs in October and stays the year, he is not going to the AHL the following season, that's nonsense.
- LeafMan

But he is allowed his opinion on the matter.

If Marner makes the Leafs in October and stays the year, he is not going to the AHL the following season, that's nonsense.
- LeafMan

Any alternatives? Could he go play in the Swiss league for a year like Matthews?

But he is allowed his opinion on the matter.
- bixll

hockeybuzz is not a democracy, the servers are in Russia

If Marner makes the Leafs in October and stays the year, he is not going to the AHL the following season, that's nonsense.
- LeafMan

Yeah it would be quite unrealistic to think that would happen.

If he makes the Leafs next year, he would be sticking around for good I would imagine...it may hurt his confidence badly to have him up for a year in the N then send him to the A...unless of course a small conditioning stint if he got hurt or whatever.

Any alternatives? Could he go play in the Swiss league for a year like Matthews?
- RonPielep

Nope, he was drafted into the CHL.

NHL or OHL, only options.

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- WingmanWillie

Didn't think it could get any worse.

Tough to say, I think at the start of the season the rookies out perform the vets as they are not training as hard/as hungry in the early goings...+ rookie camp, and proving their worth. So younger guys like Larkin for example, come out flying, then they get a bit tired/beat up and the veteran players get in their groove and production soars. guys like Giroux are a good example of that.

anyhow, wel see - im always hoping for the best outcome!
- Lucas.Neilson

I'm thinking in Marners case a big part of his game is his vision and how he's able to set things up. Him Dvorak and tkachuk seem to have great chemistry. Playing with new line mates for the first time will likely be an adjustment that will take Marner ( like any player tho) some time to get used too. I'm hoping for the best but kind of expecting a frustrating first year from him.

Didn't think it could get any worse.
- weirdoh

just wait for the 1st of May