Thorny
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Location: OH Joined: 10.15.2011
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I would love to keep schultz. I am warming to the idea that Lovejoy is going to get an offer we can not afford to match. I prefer to keep schultz of we can and hope that a full year of competent coaching helps him reach his potential - sditulli
I think Lovejoy would actually take less to stay with the Pens, I get that feeling from him. Now, that doesn't mean he will take 800K next year. I just think if the Pens offer 1.5 and a team comes along and offers 1.9K, I think he would stay with the Pens. I would love to figure out a way to keep Schultz, for some reason, I think they will trade DP in the off season, perhaps at the draft. |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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I think Lovejoy would actually take less to stay with the Pens, I get that feeling from him. Now, that doesn't mean he will take 800K next year. I just think if the Pens offer 1.5 and a team comes along and offers 1.9K, I think he would stay with the Pens. I would love to figure out a way to keep Schultz, for some reason, I think they will trade DP in the off season, perhaps at the draft. - Thorny
If Pouliot is traded finding a way to keep Schultz is a must. |
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I think Lovejoy would actually take less to stay with the Pens, I get that feeling from him. Now, that doesn't mean he will take 800K next year. I just think if the Pens offer 1.5 and a team comes along and offers 1.9K, I think he would stay with the Pens. I would love to figure out a way to keep Schultz, for some reason, I think they will trade DP in the off season, perhaps at the draft. - Thorny
Yes I think lovejoy will take less to stay with us. But if we win the cup it's possible he gets Scuderi money. |
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sammy87
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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I read the Pens signed some Swede on a ELC today...anyone have any idea if he's any good or is like the swede they signed last season? |
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Thorny
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Location: OH Joined: 10.15.2011
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I read the Pens signed some Swede on a ELC today...anyone have any idea if he's any good or is like the swede they signed last season? - sammy87
I thought I read that they have signed two guys recently...I could be wrong. I think Elite prospects has info on them. |
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martox
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Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort." Joined: 09.25.2014
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I read the Pens signed some Swede on a ELC today...anyone have any idea if he's any good or is like the swede they signed last season? - sammy87
nah he is pretty good. and which other swede are you talking about? |
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Thorny
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Location: OH Joined: 10.15.2011
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If Pouliot is traded finding a way to keep Schultz is a must. - Victoro311
I don't think both will be on the team by the next trade deadline. I just hate the fact of giving up on DP, the position went from being very deep with prospects to nothing real fast. Letang, Maatta, Doums, Cole, DP and Daley under contract right? Is Schultz a RFA? I would hate for them to dump DP, unless the Pens have really soured on him. |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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I read the Pens signed some Swede on a ELC today...anyone have any idea if he's any good or is like the swede they signed last season? - sammy87
Niclas Andersen was much older and didn't have nearly this guy's level of production. Lukas Bengstsson is leagues higher than Andersen in terms of NHL potential. |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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I don't think both will be on the team by the next trade deadline. I just hate the fact of giving up on DP, the position went from being very deep with prospects to nothing real fast. Letang, Maatta, Doums, Cole, DP and Daley under contract right? Is Schultz a RFA? I would hate for them to dump DP, unless the Pens have really soured on him. - Thorny
Everyone assumes something along these lines. We don't have to dump DP. Hell, the kid is on an ELC. If we really wanted to we can still send him to the AHL throughout next season if we run out of roster spots. Say we sign Schultz and there's not a spot for DP on the roster. Fine. Now DP is expendable. If someone comes calling and gives us a great deal then we can take it without missing a beat. But if the market isn't bullish we hold onto him. Hell, Daley is gonna walk after next season. DP is pretty much guaranteed a spot in 2017 unless he is a legitimate bust. Tell me a world in which having DP as a 7th D man on an ELC for 2016 and having him step into a full time role in 2017 is a bad thing. Tell me a world in which we're able to trade DP for something we want more because we don't need him is a bad thing. There is nothing better in the realm of professional sports than an expendable asset that you don't need to get rid of. #leverage |
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Thorny
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Location: OH Joined: 10.15.2011
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Everyone assumes something along these lines. We don't have to dump DP. Hell, the kid is on an ELC. If we really wanted to we can still send him to the AHL throughout next season if we run out of roster spots. Say we sign Schultz and there's not a spot for DP on the roster. Fine. Now DP is expendable. If someone comes calling and gives us a great deal then we can take it without missing a beat. But if the market isn't bullish we hold onto him. Hell, Daley is gonna walk after next season. DP is pretty much guaranteed a spot in 2017 unless he is a legitimate bust. Tell me a world in which having DP as a 7th D man on an ELC for 2016 and having him step into a full time role in 2017 is a bad thing. Tell me a world in which we're able to trade DP for something we want more because we don't need him is a bad thing. There is nothing better in the realm of professional sports than an expendable asset that you don't need to get rid of. #leverage - Victoro311
I just feel like dumping DP would be a major mistake. It could go from a deep position for next year, to really thin the following year, if DP is dealt. I really hope they hold onto him, considering the new found forward depth with the young guys that have come up. I mean, are we 100% sold on OM being a top pairing dman? He has been injury prone and shaky lately...granted, I know he had cancer, but still. |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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I just feel like dumping DP would be a major mistake. It could go from a deep position for next year, to really thin the following year, if DP is dealt. I really hope they hold onto him, considering the new found forward depth with the young guys that have come up. I mean, are we 100% sold on OM being a top pairing dman? He has been injury prone and shaky lately...granted, I know he had cancer, but still. - Thorny
I mean my last post was a long winded way of saying we're not just going to dump Pouliot. We have no incentive to dump DP. I don't think its a worth while concern. |
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I mean my last post was a long winded way of saying we're not just going to dump Pouliot. We have no incentive to dump DP. I don't think its a worth while concern. - Victoro311
At some point, DP has to give the Pens incentive to keep him. For all we know, this new guy could replace DP easily. |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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At some point, DP has to give the Pens incentive to keep him. For all we know, this new guy could replace DP easily. - Oneonta Penguin
Even if he's been replaced in the organization which at best is questionable at this point, what in the world is our incentive to simply dump him? He's looked solid when he's played this last half of the season. It looks like his floor is bottom pairing offensive spark plug. His ceiling could be much higher. DP has value. If no one wants to poney up that value then why would we give him away? He's price controlled. |
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Heads will roll in Anaheim if this game ends the way it looks right now - Nashville up 2-0. |
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sammy87
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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Heads will roll in Anaheim if this game ends the way it looks right now - Nashville up 2-0. - Oneonta Penguin
Yeah I see Fowler or Vat gone if they lose. Bruce is a goner, he's a terrible coach. That Kesler contract is just stupid.
Sharks Nash could be a good series to watch. I think Blues Stars will be awesome as well. |
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madmike71
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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Two players that I do not miss in a Pens jersey. Neal and Perron. |
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Grinder47
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Location: Somerset, PA Joined: 10.20.2013
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Two players that I do not miss in a Pens jersey. Neal and Perron. - madmike71
Id take neal. just because hes dedicated enough to winning to hurt someone in the process. |
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pensfan024
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Location: somewhere in, VA Joined: 09.25.2012
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Nhl.com and nhl network's writers and contributers majority puck the craps. Oh boy. |
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dbell646
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.13.2009
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Nhl.com and nhl network's writers and contributers majority puck the craps. Oh boy. - pensfan024
Vegas has it even money. It's a great match up. The homer in me says we should win but who knows. Caps have a great team. |
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Aussiepenguin
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Location: Sydney Joined: 08.02.2014
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I mean my last post was a long winded way of saying we're not just going to dump Pouliot. We have no incentive to dump DP. I don't think its a worth while concern. - Victoro311
Where in the world is this trade DP talk coming from???
Why on earth would we trade him, especially considering we would be trading low??
I realise you aren't in that boat, but why are people saying they think we trade him?
If anything JR is marinating him so we get the goods when he's ready to roll full time. |
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MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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I only caught the 3rd period of the Isles/Bolts game last night, but if that period was indicative of how the series is going to look, there's no way Isles are coming out if that series. Pure domination by the Bolts. |
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MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Nhl.com and nhl network's writers and contributers majority puck the craps. Oh boy. - pensfan024
Pens are definitely the underdogs. Thats fine. |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Where in the world is this trade DP talk coming from???
Why on earth would we trade him, especially considering we would be trading low??
I realise you aren't in that boat, but why are people saying they think we trade him?
If anything JR is marinating him so we get the goods when he's ready to roll full time. - Aussiepenguin
There's a big difference between trading someone and dumping someone. Trading implies there's a game plan and you're targeting a specific return. Dumping implies that you're just getting rid of that player and you really don't care what the return is.
I'm not particularly against trading Pouliot. If we retain Schultz with term DP becomes expendable. As long as it's a good trade for us, I don't give a damn about Pouliot. Honestly im pretty sick of hearing people crying about him not playing so if he's not in the starting rotation next season I might be relieved if he gets traded in a good hockey trade.
What I am super against is dumping Pouliot. LW is still an area of concern but it's not as frightening as a hole anymore so really we have no major needs that absolutely have to be addressed this offseason. Also Pouliot is cheap and cost controlled. Next year his cap hit is negligible and he's not due a big raise. Because of this, there's really no reason for us trade him even if he's not a starter next year. We have all the leverage here. That's why I highly doubt we sell off on him at a discounted value.
Anyways, merry game day |
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dbell646
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.13.2009
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There's a big difference between trading someone and dumping someone. Trading implies there's a game plan and you're targeting a specific return. Dumping implies that you're just getting rid of that player and you really don't care what the return is.
I'm not particularly against trading Pouliot. If we retain Schultz with term DP becomes expendable. As long as it's a good trade for us, I don't give a damn about Pouliot. Honestly im pretty sick of hearing people crying about him not playing so if he's not in the starting rotation next season I might be relieved if he gets traded in a good hockey trade.
What I am super against is dumping Pouliot. LW is still an area of concern but it's not as frightening as a hole anymore so really we have no major needs that absolutely have to be addressed this offseason. Also Pouliot is cheap and cost controlled. Next year his cap hit is negligible and he's not due a big raise. Because of this, there's really no reason for us trade him even if he's not a starter next year. We have all the leverage here. That's why I highly doubt we sell off on him at a discounted value.
Anyways, merry game day - Victoro311
Dp at this point is very cheap depth. Watching the pens or any team for that matter why would you want to trade cheap nhl defensive depth? You know you're going to need him. Not sure what we would get in return but looking at the current roster what do we really need?
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Dp at this point is very cheap depth. Watching the pens or any team for that matter why would you want to trade cheap nhl defensive depth? You know you're going to need him. Not sure what we would get in return but looking at the current roster what do we really need? - dbell646
That's basically what I'm saying. Since there's no glaring holes in our roster and we're fine cap wise, our team doesn't have a real incentive to trade him. But if Schultz is resigned, he is expendable. We'd be dumb no to listen to proposals but we wouldn't move on anything we don't absolutely love because we have all the leverage. Hence why I highly doubt we'll just dump him. |
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