The Pens made the playoffs in Malkin's rookie year and the Hawks made the playoffs in Toews and Kane's 2nd season. The Isles took a while but finally got there in Tavares's 4th season. Hall? Eberle? Nuge? Still waiting. They've had some good seasons but have not made a difference in the standings as the Oilers suck just as badly now as they did back when Dustin Penner was their best player. So, like it or not, and call everyone who disagrees with you polar smokers all you want, but that hurts their trade value, buddy.
- Snowblind

The pens had 5 lottery picks in a row and still missed.
The Hawks had Keith and seabrook developing before they got lucky with two of the games best. AND were able to sign Campbell who was truly elite at the time to shelter them.

The isles were brutal for pretty much 20 years

Anyways...

Annoyance going to make it?
- smellmyfinger

That Richard bag isn't invited

Yes because no LH Dman has EVER played the right side effectively... pathetic that you honestly think McDonagh wouldn't help a lot regardless of his handedness. I'm not arguing cost or value, simply him as a player that you seem intent on painting as someone who'd be a non-factor (or close to it).
- MaximumBone

We don't need more left handed defensemen. Too many already.

He's unconfirmed at this point
- ReveenV2

Well poop. When do I have to RSVP by?

That Richard bag isn't invited
- ReveenV2

(frank) I hate that guy

Well poop. When do I have to RSVP by?
- leonkennedy

http://www.stoneynakodaresort.com/

We don't need more left handed defensemen. Too many already.
- Ihatebrianburke

You can't not at least strongly consider it for a true #1 like McDonagh


At the very least he's unequivically a great top pairing guy

Substantially better then anyone we currently have. That conference finals series two years ago he was ridiculous. So dominant

Absolutely determined to convince us oiler players are worthless

Angry and relentless. A lethal combination

You got some weird fetishes there, bub.
- leonkennedy

You're the one that was gonna get fired, not I

Those pieces are ALL more valuable to the Oilers than McDonagh, who doesnt play on the right and isnt actually a slam dunk top 10-20 defender in the NHL. Imagine the Oilers trade for McDonagh, paying more than anyone in their right mind would ever pay for a 35 point defender. They now have McDonagh, Klefbom, and Sekera on the left side. Darnell Nurse and Reinhart start the year in the AHL, Davidson slides over to the right even though he's also a lefty. They still have nobody better than Fayne on the right side, which the rest of the Western Conference laughs about while stomping the 2016-2017 Oilers to the ground. Sadly, without their pick or Hall/Drai/RNH to trade they cant upgrade their actual weakness.

Now it's 2017-2018, the Oilers have a NMC for Sekera, Klefbom is too cheap to even consider moving, and the team has blown a great player and a top 5 pick on McDonagh so he's going nowhere. Now they have to trade Reinhart (more laughter from the WC) and Nurse whose upside is in serious question since he cant even crack a garbage Oiler team.

Good job. You traded two great assets for nothing that helps and blew another year of McDavid's ELC. Classic Snowblind.
- Matt_Henderson

You really have no clue about the rest of the NHL, outside of the six players whose posters decorate your bedroom wall.

McDonagh a first-rate first-pair All-Star caliber dman wouldn't help the Oilers because they have Sekera (a 2nd pairing dman) and Klefbom, a kid who has played 100 NHL games and none since before Christmas!


The Oilers are allowed to make more than one trade per offseason.

If they somehow got the McDonagh for Nuge and their 1st round pick and then, say, Hamonic for Nurse and their 2nd round pick, the Oilers actually might be a playoff team, but you'd probably have less fun dreaming about them because of the best case scenarios they'd be mortgaging in exchange for players are actually good NHL defensemen right now.

What is the depth of Edm's RD?

I'll help...
http://oilersnation.com/2.../25/closing-the-leftorium

A good read by someone in touch with the Oilers needs...and not homer-ish.

Simply put though.

There is a decent list of current and future LD in the Oiler system 911 of which will stay in the system), there is a list of 3 RD, and two of them have expiring contracts this year.

McDou would be a great pick up. He is not what the team really needs right at this moment, they need him as a RD. So before PC trades for him I like to believe that PC will explore a RD first.
- McSavioursPupil

Disagree vehemently on that point. Guy's a pretty big homer on a number of fronts.

You can't not at least strongly consider it for a true #1 like McDonagh


At the very least he's unequivically a great top pairing guy

Substantially better then anyone we currently have. That conference finals series two years ago he was ridiculous. So dominant
- HB77

Sure better than what we have, but if we're adding him it can't be for our 1st and another good asset. And since everyone wants to give us their poopty packages, we should offer Griffin, Yak, 2017 1st. No? But my video game gm mode accepted it.

You're the one that was gonna get fired, not I
- Ihatebrianburke

When did this happen???

Holy eff is Connor mcdavid ever good

Just sayin

Disagree vehemently on that point. Guy's a pretty big homer on a number of fronts.
- MaximumBone

but...you agree with the rest of what I said??

http://www.stoneynakodaresort.com/
- ReveenV2

I see they are a pet friendly hotel too.

You really have no clue about the rest of the NHL, outside of the six players whose posters decorate your bedroom wall.

McDonagh a first-rate first-pair All-Star caliber dman wouldn't help the Oilers because they have Sekera (a 2nd pairing dman) and Klefbom, a kid who has played 100 NHL games and none since before Christmas!


The Oilers are allowed to make more than one trade per offseason.

If they somehow got the McDonagh for Nuge and their 1st round pick and then, say, Hamonic for Nurse and their 2nd round pick, the Oilers actually might be a playoff team, but you'd probably have less fun dreaming about them because of the best case scenarios they'd be mortgaging in exchange for players are actually good NHL defensemen right now.
- Snowblind

You guys can have Ebs for for Hamonic. Otherwise beat it.

Disagree vehemently on that point. Guy's a pretty big homer on a number of fronts.
- MaximumBone

Just read that article

It's hard to even look at the right side of edm defensive core

So bad

When did this happen???
- leonkennedy

Wasn't that what you told me in pm? Can't remember, short term memory loss

Just read that article

It's hard to even look at the right side of edm defensive core

So bad
- HB77

Clendening, Fayne, Gryba

We don't need more left handed defensemen. Too many already.
- Ihatebrianburke

In the case that McDonagh is available (doubtful) then who on the market is a better Dman? Looking purely at level of the player, McDonagh stands above the rest of the rumored available. So if we have a chance to acquire him, I don't see why we don't happily pursue that and instead move one of our lesser LHD for a RHD (Nurse or Klefbom for a Hamonic or Trouba comes to mind). Not only do we upgrade our RD substantially, we also take a major step at LHD.

McDonagh (Nuge+1st)- Klefbom
Sekera- Hamonic (Nurse+3rd)
Davidson- Gryba
Reinhart in the AHL

Suddenly our D is no longer a weakness now or in the future and our forward corps STILL boasts McDavid, Eberle, Hall, Draisaitl, Pouliot, and Maroon. Acquire a guy like Berglund and then sign a Stempniak and lo-and-behold we're easily a competitive team.

Clendening, Fayne, Gryba
- Ihatebrianburke

Kinda hoping we can unload fayne as a salary dump if we deal our first as the main asset going the other way

Wasn't that what you told me in pm? Can't remember, short term memory loss
- Ihatebrianburke

Short term memory loss. Not a work thing at all.

but...you agree with the rest of what I said??

- McSavioursPupil

Can't say that, but I respect the point you're arguing. You're not devaluing the impact McDonagh could have on the team.

In the case that McDonagh is available (doubtful) then who on the market is a better Dman? Looking purely at level of the player, McDonagh stands above the rest of the rumored available. So if we have a chance to acquire him, I don't see why we don't happily pursue that and instead move one of our lesser LHD for a RHD (Nurse or Klefbom for a Hamonic or Trouba comes to mind). Not only do we upgrade our RD substantially, we also take a major step at LHD.

McDonagh (Nuge+1st)- Klefbom
Sekera- Hamonic (Nurse+3rd)
Davidson- Gryba
Reinhart in the AHL

Suddenly our D is no longer a weakness now or in the future and our forward corps STILL boasts McDavid, Eberle, Hall, Draisaitl, Pouliot, and Maroon. Acquire a guy like Berglund and then sign a Stempniak and lo-and-behold we're easily a competitive team.
- MaximumBone

You are entirely too reasonable for Hendo.