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ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:35 PM ET
They have a casino? And I'll be there only if you bring Shooter with you.
- leonkennedy


Done... We can hook you up with Sheldon Souray's cousins
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:35 PM ET
Ya just like when the Isles were struggling they shoud've traded Tavares for a package of poopty assets, or the Hawks with, Kane and Toews, or Pittsburgh with Crosby and Malkin. The list goes on and on. We should trade all of our good players for 1st rounders, prospects, and 2nd pairing defensemen because we're the Oilers and because we struggle our assets are worth less. I (frank)ing hate these banana eaters on here. Our GM won't accept the same trade you made on NHL 2016 so we're gonna be the worst team in the league forever. I can't wait to see all these morons choke on their words and poop proposals when Chiarelli gets us some defense and Connor wins the Art Ross next season.
- Ihatebrianburke

this
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 10:36 PM ET
Done... We can hook you up with Sheldon Souray's cousins
- ReveenV2


Jew?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:36 PM ET
I was of the impression he played primarily with Carter. Gimme a sec to check on that.

EDIT: Confirmed, he played with Carter about three times more.

- MaximumBone

So kopitar was Pearson and gaborik?

I did a quick google of the two and I saw links to dynamic duo of kopitar/toffoli a few times. Maybe that was just small sample
Anyways, meh. He's a solid player either way
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:36 PM ET
Hamonic and Nelson/Strome+ doesn't equate to sh!tty assets that might not even turn out. That's two completely proven NHL quality, top-half-of-the-roster players. You don't make things any better or them any less likely to come in here by insisting that's all they're doing.
- MaximumBone

Hamonic isn't good enough to get Hall, regardless of the package. Strome sucks. Nelson is another center that we don't need and struggled tremendously at points this season, even being called out publicly by his coach. And another 1st rounder like the dude suggested might never play in the league. (frank) that noise!!!
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:37 PM ET
Those pieces are ALL more valuable to the Oilers than McDonagh, who doesnt play on the right and isnt actually a slam dunk top 10-20 defender in the NHL. Imagine the Oilers trade for McDonagh, paying more than anyone in their right mind would ever pay for a 35 point defender. They now have McDonagh, Klefbom, and Sekera on the left side. Darnell Nurse and Reinhart start the year in the AHL, Davidson slides over to the right even though he's also a lefty. They still have nobody better than Fayne on the right side, which the rest of the Western Conference laughs about while stomping the 2016-2017 Oilers to the ground. Sadly, without their pick or Hall/Drai/RNH to trade they cant upgrade their actual weakness.

Now it's 2017-2018, the Oilers have a NMC for Sekera, Klefbom is too cheap to even consider moving, and the team has blown a great player and a top 5 pick on McDonagh so he's going nowhere. Now they have to trade Reinhart (more laughter from the WC) and Nurse whose upside is in serious question since he cant even crack a garbage Oiler team.

Good job. You traded two great assets for nothing that helps and blew another year of McDavid's ELC. Classic Snowblind.

- Matt_Henderson


They call it Garth Snow Logic.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
And Little Ricky
- smellmyfinger

I think if Reveen is there, then the whole gang may be in tow.
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Apr 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
Ya just like when the Isles were struggling they shoud've traded Tavares for a package of poopty assets, or the Hawks with, Kane and Toews, or Pittsburgh with Crosby and Malkin. The list goes on and on. We should trade all of our good players for 1st rounders, prospects, and 2nd pairing defensemen because we're the Oilers and because we struggle our assets are worth less. I (frank)ing hate these banana eaters on here. Our GM won't accept the same trade you made on NHL 2016 so we're gonna be the worst team in the league forever. I can't wait to see all these morons choke on their words and poop proposals when Chiarelli gets us some defense and Connor wins the Art Ross next season.
- Ihatebrianburke


The Pens made the playoffs in Malkin's rookie year and the Hawks made the playoffs in Toews and Kane's 2nd season. The Isles took a while but finally got there in Tavares's 4th season. Hall? Eberle? Nuge? Still waiting. They've had some good seasons but have not made a difference in the standings as the Oilers suck just as badly now as they did back when Dustin Penner was their best player. So, like it or not, and call everyone who disagrees with you polar smokers all you want, but that hurts their trade value, buddy.
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
Jew?
- DDM-Coga

Chug
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
Kypreos is a tard but he seems more connected than Dreger these days
- ReveenV2

Cause his cousin got fired from the Leafs and TSN has gone down the crapper since Sportsnet got the rights.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:39 PM ET
Isn't that your diaper sniffin time?
- Ihatebrianburke

You got some weird fetishes there, bub.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:39 PM ET
But here's the thing: if you're going to ding Toffoli for playing with Kopitar or Carter, then why aren't all of the half-dozen invaluable Oilers forwards also considered to be the kind of great linemates that players' numbers also benefit from?
- Snowblind


Pouliot has benefitted from playing with nuge.
Leon has be fitted from playing with hall
Maroon has benefitted from playing with eberle


Not sure your point here, but I wasn't really trashing toffoli anyway. He's good. As I said
McSavioursPupil
Montreal Canadiens
Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF
Joined: 12.11.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
Please elaborate on why the Oilers' stable of left-handed defensemen is superior to the Isles' LW depth chart.
- Snowblind


What is the depth of Edm's RD?

I'll help...
http://oilersnation.com/2.../25/closing-the-leftorium

A good read by someone in touch with the Oilers needs...and not homer-ish.

Simply put though.

There is a decent list of current and future LD in the Oiler system 911 of which will stay in the system), there is a list of 3 RD, and two of them have expiring contracts this year.

McDou would be a great pick up. He is not what the team really needs right at this moment, they need him as a RD. So before PC trades for him I like to believe that PC will explore a RD first.

smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
Hamonic isn't good enough to get Hall, regardless of the package. Strome sucks. Nelson is another center that we don't need and struggled tremendously at points this season, even being called out publicly by his coach. And another 1st rounder like the dude suggested might never play in the league. (frank) that noise!!!
- Ihatebrianburke



You're still not following the logic here. The oilers missed the playoffs and the islanders made it. So therefor every single player and prospect the islanders have are automatically worth more in a trade than any oilers asset.

#Islandotes
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
I think if Reveen is there, then the whole gang may be in tow.
- leonkennedy


Reveen, LitteRicky, GreenBastard, prismo, HitlerMcSatan, mustard tiger, $hithawk, ReveenV2.0, sloth, RickJames, thriller, #hashtag, and a many others are confirmed to be in attendance.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:41 PM ET
I think if Reveen is there, then the whole gang may be in tow.
- leonkennedy



As long as they've freed little Ricky by then.
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:41 PM ET
Cause his cousin got fired from the Leafs and TSN has gone down the crapper since Sportsnet got the rights.
- Ihatebrianburke

Brother Inlaw
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:42 PM ET
Reveen, LitteRicky, GreenBastard, prismo, HitlerMcSatan, mustard tiger, $hithawk, ReveenV2.0, sloth, RickJames, thriller, #hashtag, and a many others are confirmed to be in attendance.
- ReveenV2



Annoyance going to make it?
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:43 PM ET
Reveen, LitteRicky, GreenBastard, prismo, HitlerMcSatan, mustard tiger, $hithawk, ReveenV2.0, sloth, RickJames, thriller, #hashtag, and a many others are confirmed to be in attendance.
- ReveenV2

Please tell me Grimlock will make an appearance?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:43 PM ET
Well expansion should have been on his radar. Vegas & Quebec both approached the NHL long before they even started constructing buildings to see if the NHL was receptive to their visions. Foley approached the NHL in August of 2014, they started a seasons ticket selling campaign on February 10th of 2015. They sold 5000 ticket commitments in the 1st 36 hours. 10% deposit required. They achieved their goal of 10000 by April 15th.

I have been discussing NHL expansion plans for almost 2 years. Lyle Richardson shut me down repeatedly from even discussing it on his rumors chat boards for well over a year now. Long before last summer. I said it would happen by 2 teams following the summer of the 2016-17 season & I still think Quebec will get a team. Greed being the primary reason.

I am not beating my own drum. That is not my intention. I listen to the NHL network religiously, read a ton & it was a topic of discussion often. The writing has been on the wall for years & with both buildings construction schedules the timeline was obvious. Factor in the tumbling Canadian dollar starting in late 2014, bringing the cap to a grinding halt & teams need the money expansion provides.

Chiarelli should have known & been planing accordingly. A few other GMs have. Murray in Anaheim has said he sent players back to junior & or traded them for futures to be positioned for pending expansion!

- striker777


I can't say I'm too upset at the thought of chiarelli trying to make s move to make us better, but "potentially" losing a player down the road to expansion

I mean what if reinhart pans out?

This just seems like too much hindsight and big picture thinking. Like beyond anything rational

Don't make moves- bad gm
Make moves-bad gm

Have to agree to disagree on this one
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:46 PM ET
The Pens made the playoffs in Malkin's rookie year and the Hawks made the playoffs in Toews and Kane's 2nd season. The Isles took a while but finally got there in Tavares's 4th season. Hall? Eberle? Nuge? Still waiting. They've had some good seasons but have not made a difference in the standings as the Oilers suck just as badly now as they did back when Dustin Penner was their best player. So, like it or not, and call everyone who disagrees with you polar smokers all you want, but that hurts their trade value, buddy.
- Snowblind

Islander fans are sure high and mighty after winning one playoff series after 23 years now. Just because someone plays on a losing team doesn't diminish their value. I guess with all Arizona's struggles OEL must be worth (frank) all too???
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:46 PM ET
Jew?
- DDM-Coga



TL;DR
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:48 PM ET
Islander fans are sure high and mighty after winning one playoff series after 23 years now. Just because someone plays on a losing team doesn't diminish their value. I guess with all Arizona's struggles OEL must be worth (frank) all too???
- Ihatebrianburke



Arizona would need to add to a package containing OEL in order to get Hamonic.

E5
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:48 PM ET
Please tell me Grimlock will make an appearance?
- leonkennedy


He's unconfirmed at this point
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:48 PM ET
Those pieces are ALL more valuable to the Oilers than McDonagh, who doesnt play on the right and isnt actually a slam dunk top 10-20 defender in the NHL. Imagine the Oilers trade for McDonagh, paying more than anyone in their right mind would ever pay for a 35 point defender. They now have McDonagh, Klefbom, and Sekera on the left side. Darnell Nurse and Reinhart start the year in the AHL, Davidson slides over to the right even though he's also a lefty. They still have nobody better than Fayne on the right side, which the rest of the Western Conference laughs about while stomping the 2016-2017 Oilers to the ground. Sadly, without their pick or Hall/Drai/RNH to trade they cant upgrade their actual weakness.

Now it's 2017-2018, the Oilers have a NMC for Sekera, Klefbom is too cheap to even consider moving, and the team has blown a great player and a top 5 pick on McDonagh so he's going nowhere. Now they have to trade Reinhart (more laughter from the WC) and Nurse whose upside is in serious question since he cant even crack a garbage Oiler team.

Good job. You traded two great assets for nothing that helps and blew another year of McDavid's ELC. Classic Snowblind.

- Matt_Henderson

Yes because no LH Dman has EVER played the right side effectively... pathetic that you honestly think McDonagh wouldn't help a lot regardless of his handedness. I'm not arguing cost or value, simply him as a player that you seem intent on painting as someone who'd be a non-factor (or close to it).
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