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ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:22 PM ET
Oiler fans will inevitably be blamed for his idiocy

If the canes shop Faulk, whoever their gm is needs to be beaten senseless

- HB77


Kypreos is actually reporting that there are rumblings that Faulk is available and that the Canes have been looking at RNH.
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:23 PM ET
Whoa, gear down there, Big Rig. That's crazy talk.
- leonkennedy


I'll be at the Morley Casino in two weeks if you want to come and hang with me and my toothless home boys.

#What'sReallyRez
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:24 PM ET
30+ goals and 58 points actually is a monster season in NHL of 2016.

A) Has the Nuge ever had a 58 point season?

B) Has scored even close to 31 goals ever?

C) Did any of these invaluable Oilers score 31 goals this past season?

D How many put up over 58 points in 2015-16?


(answer key: A. No, B. No, C. No, D. One)

- Snowblind


Toffoli's really good. Got a nose for the net. Not sure how productive he is away from kopitar though.
Not really what we need anyway. Nuge is more valuable to us even in a 3c role. Even as a trade chip

But yeah, he's good
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:25 PM ET
Richard D. Cloutier ‏@rdcloutier 50m50 minutes ago
#Oilers have numerous trade options that would not cost then McDavid, Hall, Draisaitl or Nurse.

#WhoNeedsHendo
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Apr 26 @ 10:25 PM ET
Oiler fans will inevitably be blamed for his idiocy

If the canes shop Faulk, whoever their gm is needs to be beaten senseless

- HB77


Agreed.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 10:26 PM ET
Richard D. Cloutier ‏@rdcloutier 30m30 minutes ago
Defensemen on the #Oilers radar this summer include Faulk, Barrie, Hamonic, Vatanen, maybe Shatttenkirk. Guys like that.

#Insider

- ReveenV2


Oilers want to trade for good Righhanded Dman. #Confirmed
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:26 PM ET
Toffoli's really good. Got a nose for the net. Not sure how productive he is away from kopitar though.
Not really what we need anyway. Nuge is more valuable to us even in a 3c role. Even as a trade chip

But yeah, he's good

- HB77


I wasn't debating Toffoli not being good. I just think he's more of a product of who he plays with. Modern day Kevin Stevens.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:26 PM ET
I couldn't make it through the first page of stupidity so I'll jump in here and say, wow! What a bunch of mouth breathing, window licking, retards up in here. Can you Isles fans (frank) off already with your Hall for Hamonic plus trades already? There is zero chance of it happening. We are not in the market, looking to trade elite players for packages of poopty assets that might not even turn out. We don't need prospects, draft picks, or struggling players. (frank) right off!
- Ihatebrianburke

Hamonic and Nelson/Strome+ doesn't equate to sh!tty assets that might not even turn out. That's two completely proven NHL quality, top-half-of-the-roster players. You don't make things any better or them any less likely to come in here by insisting that's all they're doing.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:26 PM ET
Kypreos is actually reporting that there are rumblings that Faulk is available and that the Canes have been looking at RNH.
- ReveenV2

If kypreos wasn't an idiot, I'd be super amped on this

Either way, we make that trade all day if the canes guy is dumb enough to deal him
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
Oilers want to trade for good Righhanded Dman. #Confirmed
- DDM-Coga


Yak for Barrie

#FatmarshCutsHisWrists
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
Oilers want to trade for good Righhanded Dman. #Confirmed
- DDM-Coga

#insider
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
Toffoli's really good. Got a nose for the net. Not sure how productive he is away from kopitar though.
Not really what we need anyway. Nuge is more valuable to us even in a 3c role. Even as a trade chip

But yeah, he's good

- HB77

I was of the impression he played primarily with Carter. Gimme a sec to check on that.

EDIT: Confirmed, he played with Carter about three times more.
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
If kypreos wasn't an idiot, I'd be super amped on this

Either way, we make that trade all day if the canes guy is dumb enough to deal him

- HB77

Kypreos is a tard but he seems more connected than Dreger these days
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:28 PM ET
Oilers players are worth less and they have to pay more than other teams in trades.
- ReveenV2

Ya just like when the Isles were struggling they shoud've traded Tavares for a package of poopty assets, or the Hawks with, Kane and Toews, or Pittsburgh with Crosby and Malkin. The list goes on and on. We should trade all of our good players for 1st rounders, prospects, and 2nd pairing defensemen because we're the Oilers and because we struggle our assets are worth less. I (frank)ing hate these banana eaters on here. Our GM won't accept the same trade you made on NHL 2016 so we're gonna be the worst team in the league forever. I can't wait to see all these morons choke on their words and poop proposals when Chiarelli gets us some defense and Connor wins the Art Ross next season.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:30 PM ET
I'll be at the Morley Casino in two weeks if you want to come and hang with me and my toothless home boys.

#What'sReallyRez

- ReveenV2

They have a casino? And I'll be there only if you bring Shooter with you.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 10:30 PM ET
Yak for Barrie

#FatmarshCutsHisWrists

- ReveenV2

smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:30 PM ET
Oilers want to trade for good Righhanded Dman. #Confirmed
- DDM-Coga



Pete Mother(frank)ing Harrold.

Drops mic
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Apr 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
Toffoli's really good. Got a nose for the net. Not sure how productive he is away from kopitar though.
Not really what we need anyway. Nuge is more valuable to us even in a 3c role. Even as a trade chip

But yeah, he's good

- HB77


But here's the thing: if you're going to ding Toffoli for playing with Kopitar or Carter, then why aren't all of the half-dozen invaluable Oilers forwards also considered to be the kind of great linemates that players' numbers also benefit from?
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
Yak for Barrie

#FatmarshCutsHisWrists

- ReveenV2

Pffft. More like #FatmarshGoesOnVeganDiet
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
They have a casino? And I'll be there only if you bring Shooter with you.
- leonkennedy



And Little Ricky
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
If you wanna take a break and let Leon write blogs for you for a while, so you can clue into reality just say the word. Schools done so I will have an extra 5-15 mins a day to fire a couple blogs out.
- leonkennedy

Isn't that your diaper sniffin time?
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:32 PM ET
Well expansion should have been on his radar. Vegas & Quebec both approached the NHL long before they even started constructing buildings to see if the NHL was receptive to their visions. Foley approached the NHL in August of 2014, they started a seasons ticket selling campaign on February 10th of 2015. They sold 5000 ticket commitments in the 1st 36 hours. 10% deposit required. They achieved their goal of 10000 by April 15th.

I have been discussing NHL expansion plans for almost 2 years. Lyle Richardson shut me down repeatedly from even discussing it on his rumors chat boards for well over a year now. Long before last summer. I said it would happen by 2 teams following the summer of the 2016-17 season & I still think Quebec will get a team. Greed being the primary reason.

I am not beating my own drum. That is not my intention. I listen to the NHL network religiously, read a ton & it was a topic of discussion often. The writing has been on the wall for years & with both buildings construction schedules the timeline was obvious. Factor in the tumbling Canadian dollar starting in late 2014, bringing the cap to a grinding halt & teams need the money expansion provides.

Chiarelli should have known & been planing accordingly. A few other GMs have. Murray in Anaheim has said he sent players back to junior & or traded them for futures to be positioned for pending expansion!
Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 26 @ 10:32 PM ET
You write that those pieces are all superior to McDonagh and yet the Oilers are once again counting lottery balls. What gives? If all of those pieces were legitimately better than McDonagh, a slam-dunk top 10-20 defenseman in the NHL, then you'd think the Oilers could overcome their lack of depth elsewhere to at least crack 80 points.
- Snowblind


Those pieces are ALL more valuable to the Oilers than McDonagh, who doesnt play on the right and isnt actually a slam dunk top 10-20 defender in the NHL. Imagine the Oilers trade for McDonagh, paying more than anyone in their right mind would ever pay for a 35 point defender. They now have McDonagh, Klefbom, and Sekera on the left side. Darnell Nurse and Reinhart start the year in the AHL, Davidson slides over to the right even though he's also a lefty. They still have nobody better than Fayne on the right side, which the rest of the Western Conference laughs about while stomping the 2016-2017 Oilers to the ground. Sadly, without their pick or Hall/Drai/RNH to trade they cant upgrade their actual weakness.

Now it's 2017-2018, the Oilers have a NMC for Sekera, Klefbom is too cheap to even consider moving, and the team has blown a great player and a top 5 pick on McDonagh so he's going nowhere. Now they have to trade Reinhart (more laughter from the WC) and Nurse whose upside is in serious question since he cant even crack a garbage Oiler team.

Good job. You traded two great assets for nothing that helps and blew another year of McDavid's ELC. Classic Snowblind.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:33 PM ET
I wasn't debating Toffoli not being good. I just think he's more of a product of who he plays with. Modern day Kevin Stevens.
- ReveenV2

Tough to say with him

Pretty mediocre skater, but as I said, clearly a nose for the net

The kings have that system and core where they make Kyle cliffords, tanner pearsons look really good.

Not saying toffoli isn't far better than them, just saying that the oilers might not get the guy we expected if we dealt for him
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 26 @ 10:35 PM ET

- DDM-Coga




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