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ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 27 @ 10:45 PM ET
Fair enough. Brooks is a tool for sure. And it wasn't clear what he was saying.

I am confident he isn't quite insane enough to think the 1st and a stud forward would even be a remote possibility though.

- Vanoxy


We hear the same drivel from knob gobblers like Dreger, MacKenzie and Kyrpeos who insist that guys like Hall, Eberle or RNH is the cost for a 2nd pairing d-men.

Now granted it isn't as far fetched as what Brooks said it's still bad...
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Apr 27 @ 10:51 PM ET
That's why I said Shattenkirk & the #1 were the BASE of a deal. His top-end skill, with EDM need, & his fit, makes him an ideal candidate for them. The #1 isn't nearly as pressing of a need.

If necessary, I'm sure an extension could be agreed upon as well.

- usmcaaron

I heard a rumour that Shatty wants to go to NYR when his contract is up.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Apr 27 @ 10:53 PM ET
Fair enough. Brooks is a tool for sure. And it wasn't clear what he was saying.

I am confident he isn't quite insane enough to think the 1st and a stud forward would even be a remote possibility though.

- Vanoxy

He's an absolute moron! That's exactly what he was implying.
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 27 @ 10:54 PM ET
I heard a rumour that Shatty wants to go to NYR when his contract is up.
- Ihatebrianburke


I honestly think Hamonic is the best bet and we should pony up to make it happen.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Apr 27 @ 10:58 PM ET
I honestly think Hamonic is the best bet and we should pony up to make it happen.
- ReveenV2

Sure Eberle. He's played well with Tavares in international play.
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 27 @ 11:01 PM ET
Sure Eberle. He's played well with Tavares in international play.
- Ihatebrianburke

If they want Eberle and a 2nd I say do it. Then we go hard for Jason Demers as UFA.

Klefbom / Hamonic
Sekera / Fayne
Davidson / Demers
Vanoxy
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!!!!
Joined: 06.26.2014

Apr 27 @ 11:01 PM ET
He's an absolute moron! That's exactly what he was implying.
- Ihatebrianburke



Maybe he was, but worded it vaguely enough that he could backpedal when he got called on it. The guy is a troll. I didn't read it that way at first glance, and was just trying to add an outside interpretation.

Either way, Hall would be a non-starter if I was Chiarelli.
Maybe the 1st could be in play. RNH possibly if NYR added something.

I'd probably do Eberle for McDonough. Yak for sure, but no way in hell is he worth 2 of the big 5 assets the Oil have.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Apr 27 @ 11:12 PM ET
Well, my friend, I hate to kill your dream, but Colton Parayko is going NOWHERE. He's the #2 reason Shattenkirk is being shopped ($$$ being #1). When Shatty was injured early in the season, Parayko stepped up his game & showed he's gonna be one of the 2 best Dman on the Blues for many years.

As for any deal involving Shatty, I think you bring up a good point about draft position for the Oilers. As crazy as it sounds, I think if EDM gets #1 again it'll be easier to trade than if they end up, say, 2-5. Matthews is the clear #1, but he's a center & not what EDM needs. The next 4-5 players are wingers or dmen, which is more of a fit for them. No impossible, but more difficult.

Eberle isn't really a fit as it stands for the Blues. They're trying to shed payroll, not take on more. Ebs at $6 mil, in exchange Shatty, adds $1.75 mil to the cap. Plus, Tank is the top RW, & his contract plus Ebs means $14 mil on 2 wingers. That's not in the Blues' budget.

- usmcaaron


One thing that I can definitely say is that Parayko was definitely a steal for you guys in that 2012 draft. Unbelievable scouting done by STL, just unbelievably amazing. Meanwhile, the Oilers were debating on Yakupov or Murray...

As you said, Shatty is definitely/most likely going to be the man leaving STL. I could see Edmonton sending prospects and draft picks back since STL is a little bit weak in terms of good prospects below the NHL level (Fabri and Parayko count as pros by now). Ebs is 99% going to be the player dealt for Hamonic if it happens since all signs are pointing to that (Okposo most likely leaving NYI is a big one).

EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Apr 27 @ 11:39 PM ET

- ReveenV2


usmcaaron
St Louis Blues
Location: United States, MO
Joined: 05.20.2008

Apr 27 @ 11:49 PM ET
One thing that I can definitely say is that Parayko was definitely a steal for you guys in that 2012 draft. Unbelievable scouting done by STL, just unbelievably amazing. Meanwhile, the Oilers were debating on Yakupov or Murray...

As you said, Shatty is definitely/most likely going to be the man leaving STL. I could see Edmonton sending prospects and draft picks back since STL is a little bit weak in terms of good prospects below the NHL level (Fabri and Parayko count as pros by now). Ebs is 99% going to be the player dealt for Hamonic if it happens since all signs are pointing to that (Okposo most likely leaving NYI is a big one).

- EdmHockeyMan

This story by Elliotte Friedman is my favorite on Colton Parayko, esp. the kicker at the end. Imagine if he'd been snatched up by Chicago?!?
Blues definitely seem to have hit a homerun.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...up-a-treasure-in-parayko/
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 28 @ 12:14 AM ET
This story by Elliotte Friedman is my favorite on Colton Parayko, esp. the kicker at the end. Imagine if he'd been snatched up by Chicago?!?
Blues definitely seem to have hit a homerun.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...up-a-treasure-in-parayko/

- usmcaaron

Then we would have won another cup, instead of poopting the bed against a team that simply just got lucky?
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:12 AM ET
Maybe he was, but worded it vaguely enough that he could backpedal when he got called on it. The guy is a troll. I didn't read it that way at first glance, and was just trying to add an outside interpretation.

Either way, Hall would be a non-starter if I was Chiarelli.
Maybe the 1st could be in play. RNH possibly if NYR added something.

I'd probably do Eberle for McDonough. Yak for sure, but no way in hell is he worth 2 of the big 5 assets the Oil have.

- Vanoxy


Matt needs something easy to write about...
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:37 AM ET
Matt needs something easy to write about...
- RonPielep

Your mother it is
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:43 AM ET
Your mother it is
- Ihatebrianburke


Try harder towelly
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Apr 28 @ 10:50 AM ET
This story by Elliotte Friedman is my favorite on Colton Parayko, esp. the kicker at the end. Imagine if he'd been snatched up by Chicago?!?
Blues definitely seem to have hit a homerun.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...up-a-treasure-in-parayko/

- usmcaaron


Just goes to show the drastic differences in scouting within STL and Chicago in comparison to other teams. Their scouting assessment ability is on a whole new level.
NEONDOUBLEDION
Anaheim Ducks
Location: EDMONTON, AB
Joined: 02.04.2015

Apr 28 @ 12:28 PM ET
Just goes to show the drastic differences in scouting within STL and Chicago in comparison to other teams. Their scouting assessment ability is on a whole new level.
- EdmHockeyMan



(frank) OFF ALFIESALAD
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Apr 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
(frank) OFF ALFIESALAD
- NEONDOUBLEDION


Right after you. I'm starting to think that you're Alfie going undercover after that Cowen incident...not to mention you're calling everyone Alfie on this site...
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 28 @ 2:13 PM ET

- EdmHockeyMan

NEONDOUBLEDION
Anaheim Ducks
Location: EDMONTON, AB
Joined: 02.04.2015

Apr 28 @ 3:12 PM ET
Right after you. I'm starting to think that you're Alfie going undercover after that Cowen incident...not to mention you're calling everyone Alfie on this site...
- EdmHockeyMan



Not everyone just you jabroni!
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 28 @ 3:16 PM ET
Not everyone just you jabroni!
- NEONDOUBLEDION

Calling people "jabroni" means we gotta start calling you Jero.......wait, can we use that 4 letter word here yet?
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
Not everyone just you jabroni!
- NEONDOUBLEDION

Straight Outta Millwoods
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 28 @ 5:17 PM ET
Straight Outta Millwoods
- ReveenV2

I did a restaurant opening with Dennys in 1997 in Milwoods. ...I take it that area is Edmontons version of Forest Lawn now?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 28 @ 5:31 PM ET
Calling people "jabroni" means we gotta start calling you Jero.......wait, can we use that 4 letter word here yet?
- leonkennedy


Jero or the Lady Boy Lover. either or
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 28 @ 6:01 PM ET
Jero or the Lady Boy Lover. either or
- DDM-Coga

Good. I was worried I was going to have to consult JB on how to hide IP addresses and create alts.
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Apr 28 @ 6:14 PM ET
I did a restaurant opening with Dennys in 1997 in Milwoods. ...I take it that area is Edmontons version of Forest Lawn now?
- leonkennedy

It's big time ghetto
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