You guys struggled last year too. Maybe you should trade Gaudreau or Monahan for a 2nd pairing Dman, a 1st rounder and somebody that's unproven in the league? Or Maybe Monahan and your 1st for McDonagh? That's the only way you'll ever climb out of the basement. Not that appealing when it's your team getting garbage offers now is it?
- Ihatebrianburke

We can only protect 3 d in the event of an expansion draft! Our Gm knew this and has planned accordingly!
You guys only want rh defenseman, not trading for a high quality lefty is ridiculous! Brodie Gio awesome pairing both lefties. Who says Klef and Sukera can't play together?

We can only protect 3 d in the event of an expansion draft! Our Gm knew this and has planned accordingly!
You guys only want rh defenseman, not trading for a high quality lefty is ridiculous! Brodie Gio awesome pairing both lefties. Who says Klef and Sukera can't play together?
- K-man25

Your GM knew the rules before there were even rules set? And still have not been finalized? Yeah (frank) off.

And no one is saying we absolutely need a rhd. It is preferred. There are very few lefties that can handle their off side in the NHL especially on the top pair. It can be done. But none of our guys have shown to be able to do it in a top pair situation. Klef and Sekera maybe depending on who their partner is.

I couldn't make it through the first page of stupidity so I'll jump in here and say, wow! What a bunch of mouth breathing, window licking, retards up in here. Can you Isles fans (frank) off already with your Hall for Hamonic plus trades already? There is zero chance of it happening. We are not in the market, looking to trade elite players for packages of poopty assets that might not even turn out. We don't need prospects, draft picks, or struggling players. (frank) right off!
- Ihatebrianburke

lot of hostility from you. Just as a reference, Nelson had 26 goals this year, same as Hall, one more than eberle.

If you'd read that without the rage goggles, you would have seen where I said I did not expect the Oilers would trade Hall, but would be interested to see if that might get them to discuss it.

As far as zero chance of it happening, how exactly do you plan on getting at least one, maybe two top four defensemen without moving anything but eberle? Just curious how you see that working out.

Vacation's over, I get back to my office and I have a pile of work to do then Brooks writes something so crazy it cant be ignored.
- Matt_Henderson

I haven't gone through all the Posts of Outrage that I assume have preceded me, but I have to say that I didn't read Brooks' suggestion being that it would take your first AND one of the young guns. Just that the first would be in on the discussion along with the young guns.

Calm down.

Your GM knew the rules before there were even rules set? And still have not been finalized? Yeah (frank) off.

And no one is saying we absolutely need a rhd. It is preferred. There are very few lefties that can handle their off side in the NHL especially on the top pair. It can be done. But none of our guys have shown to be able to do it in a top pair situation. Klef and Sekera maybe depending on who their partner is.
- Iggysbff

Several posters on here have said the left side is set, we need a rh d-man, including Matt! If you take the time to read all the comments you'd have known this.
If Klef is as good as all hope, he should be able to switch to the other side.

This.


You just get out of jail?
- Iggysbff

Your mom

Your mom
- Lahey

Ewww. You're into corpses?

Would Oilers fans do Seabrook for Klefbom? Before you all kill me, hear me out. Oilers have a young team. Seabrook, who I think would be your captain, provides leadership, winning attitude, and can run a locker room. Klefbom is a young talent that is getting better, however, Seabrook is a proven warrior and been through all situations in his career so far. Seabrook's contract potentially may not be the greatest the last couple years, but you know what you are getting in him.

Would Oilers fans do Seabrook for Klefbom? Before you all kill me, hear me out. Oilers have a young team. Seabrook, who I think would be your captain, provides leadership, winning attitude, and can run a locker room. Klefbom is a young talent that is getting better, however, Seabrook is a proven warrior and been through all situations in his career so far. Seabrook's contract potentially may not be the greatest the last couple years, but you know what you are getting in him.
- Dannyboy

Nope.

I'd take Seabrook but not for Klef. Chicago is in a cap crunch. They take Fayne and a second ( or something close like the Bruins got for Boychuk) or nothing.

Plus he has a full no move clause. You're stuck with him and that contract.

Nope.

I'd take Seabrook but not for Klef. Chicago is in a cap crunch. They take Fayne and a second ( or something close like the Bruins got for Boychuk) or nothing.

Plus he has a full no move clause. You're stuck with him and that contract.
- Iggysbff

I would stay away from Seabrook, I think his play is going to fall off in the next year or 2 and will have an albatross of a contact bc of it.

He deserved the money in chicago for all he has done for that franchise, but I dont think his play will live up to it going forward

I would stay away from Seabrook, I think his play is going to fall off in the next year or 2 and will have an albatross of a contact bc of it.

He deserved the money in chicago for all he has done for that franchise, but I dont think his play will live up to it going forward
- DDM-Coga

They will be in cap hell looking to dump something. I'd only take him on the cheap and maybe make them retain some.

I don't think the players will vote for the escalator this year. Cap will remain at 71.
Players like Toews, Kane, Seabrook etc that have massive new deals are going to want to give up as little as possible in escrow.

They will be in cap hell looking to dump something. I'd only take him on the cheap and maybe make them retain some.

I don't think the players will vote for the escalator this year. Cap will remain at 71.
Players like Toews, Kane, Seabrook etc that have massive new deals are going to want to give up as little as possible in escrow.
- Iggysbff

I wouldnt be shocked to see them try to dump Crawford or Hjalmarsson bc of that. No one is going to do them a favour by taking Bickell. Other than those 2, what significant cap hit player could they get rid of. I dont think anyone takes Hossa with recapture penalties potentially

I wouldnt be shocked to see them try to dump Crawford or Hjalmarsson bc of that. No one is going to do them a favour by taking Bickell. Other than those 2, what significant cap hit player could they get rid of. I dont think anyone takes Hossa with recapture penalties potentially
- DDM-Coga

No one is taking Bickell without some big incentives.

Hossa actually would give a cap benefit to a club getting him now. His salary goes down to 4 mill next year then 1 mill for a bunch. Cap penalties would only hit Chicago. Which is why I doubt they trade him. He also has a NTC.

Ewww. You're into corpses?
- Iggysbff

Yes, thought we've been through this before.

http://public.tableau.com...7H9ZKN?:display_count=yes

No one is taking Bickell without some big incentives.

Hossa actually would give a cap benefit to a club getting him now. His salary goes down to 4 mill next year then 1 mill for a bunch. Cap penalties would only hit Chicago. Which is why I doubt they trade him. He also has a NTC.
- Iggysbff

I'm sure you'd take him big boy.

http://public.tableau.com/shared/GTR7H9ZKN?:display_count=yes
- the_voice

This guy gets it.

I'd LOVE to keep Shatty, but I really see no way to make it work, while paying Petro & Bouwmeester what they do. Henceforth, someone is gonna get a damn good Dman. He's top-2 on nearly every team in the league.

That's also why I don't see a more mutually beneficial deal than one between EDM & STL, with Shattenkirk & EDM'S #1 being the base (other pieces involved to balance things out).

This guy gets it.

I'd LOVE to keep Shatty, but I really see no way to make it work, while paying Petro & Bouwmeester what they do. Henceforth, someone is gonna get a damn good Dman. He's top-2 on nearly every team in the league.

That's also why I don't see a more mutually beneficial deal than one between EDM & STL, with Shattenkirk & EDM'S #1 being the base (other pieces involved to balance things out).
- usmcaaron

This!

Don't forget that they also have to offer Parayko his big contract too!

I've said this before, either Shattenkirk or Parayko are gonna be the odd man out. My bet's on Shattenkirk since Parayko IMO seems to have the better potential and he is a better asset to have (He is an RFA).

As for Parayko...here is some info on him.
Here is an article indirectly referencing how badly we screwed up our 2012 draft.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/ca...lways-necessary-1.3554285

Here is another about how he was PICKED IN THE 3RD ROUND and his projectional potential! STL is starting to look like the western version of Detroit scouting.
http://www.hockeysfuture....prospects/colton-parayko/

As for Shattenkirk, you COULD see Ebs and a 2nd rounder being sent IF we draft Laine (But Shattenkirk must agree to extend his contract in Edmonton). However, if Chia can make the STL GM even consider trading Parayko, we're all declaring a holiday in the name of Chiarelli.

This!

Don't forget that they also have to offer Parayko his big contract too!

I've said this before, either Shattenkirk or Parayko are gonna be the odd man out. My bet's on Shattenkirk since Parayko IMO seems to have the better potential and he is a better asset to have (He is an RFA).

As for Parayko...here is some info on him.
Here is an article indirectly referencing how badly we screwed up our 2012 draft.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/ca...lways-necessary-1.3554285

Here is another about how he was PICKED IN THE 3RD ROUND and his projectional potential! STL is starting to look like the western version of Detroit scouting.
http://www.hockeysfuture....prospects/colton-parayko/

As for Shattenkirk, you COULD see Ebs and a 2nd rounder being sent IF we draft Laine (But Shattenkirk must agree to extend his contract in Edmonton). However, if Chia can make the STL GM even consider trading Parayko, we're all declaring a holiday in the name of Chiarelli.
- EdmHockeyMan

Well, my friend, I hate to kill your dream, but Colton Parayko is going NOWHERE. He's the #2 reason Shattenkirk is being shopped ($$$ being #1). When Shatty was injured early in the season, Parayko stepped up his game & showed he's gonna be one of the 2 best Dman on the Blues for many years.

As for any deal involving Shatty, I think you bring up a good point about draft position for the Oilers. As crazy as it sounds, I think if EDM gets #1 again it'll be easier to trade than if they end up, say, 2-5. Matthews is the clear #1, but he's a center & not what EDM needs. The next 4-5 players are wingers or dmen, which is more of a fit for them. No impossible, but more difficult.

Eberle isn't really a fit as it stands for the Blues. They're trying to shed payroll, not take on more. Ebs at $6 mil, in exchange Shatty, adds $1.75 mil to the cap. Plus, Tank is the top RW, & his contract plus Ebs means $14 mil on 2 wingers. That's not in the Blues' budget.

Well, my friend, I hate to kill your dream, but Colton Parayko is going NOWHERE. He's the #2 reason Shattenkirk is being shopped ($$$ being #1). When Shatty was injured early in the season, Parayko stepped up his game & showed he's gonna be one of the 2 best Dman on the Blues for many years.

As for any deal involving Shatty, I think you bring up a good point about draft position for the Oilers. As crazy as it sounds, I think if EDM gets #1 again it'll be easier to trade than if they end up, say, 2-5. Matthews is the clear #1, but he's a center & not what EDM needs. The next 4-5 players are wingers or dmen, which is more of a fit for them. No impossible, but more difficult.

Eberle isn't really a fit as it stands for the Blues. They're trying to shed payroll, not take on more. Ebs at $6 mil, in exchange Shatty, adds $1.75 mil to the cap. Plus, Tank is the top RW, & his contract plus Ebs means $14 mil on 2 wingers. That's not in the Blues' budget.
- usmcaaron

Shattenkirk isn't worth 1st overall 1 year away from UFA status. Pietrangelo would probably get it done though.

Shattenkirk isn't worth 1st overall 1 year away from UFA status. Pietrangelo would probably get it done though.
- Ihatebrianburke

That's why I said Shattenkirk & the #1 were the BASE of a deal. His top-end skill, with EDM need, & his fit, makes him an ideal candidate for them. The #1 isn't nearly as pressing of a need.

If necessary, I'm sure an extension could be agreed upon as well.

Your reading comprehension is pretty subpar when he says the 1st, then says so would ..... that's exactly what that means.
- Ihatebrianburke

Try again Bud.

Yes, the first would be part of the discussion. One of the players mentioned would also be part of the discussion.

That doesn't mean that both assets would be part of the package, just part of the discussion. Meaning it will take one of the Oil's top 5 assets to get the deal done.

My reading comprehension is fine. And since I am not emotionally involved, I understand what Brooks was saying. Take a deep breath, take off your Oiler glasses and read it again. He didn't propose a potential deal, just suggested what level of asset would need to be involved.

Not sure how it's an outbreak, seems like the daily norm
- Lahey

suck it you drunk bastard

Try again Bud.

Yes, the first would be part of the discussion. One of the players mentioned would also be part of the discussion.

That doesn't mean that both assets would be part of the package, just part of the discussion.

My reading comprehension is fine. And since I am not emotionally involved, I understand what Brooks was saying.
- Vanoxy

Nobody understands what Brooks is saying which is why he is universally hated by players and coaches. MSM read it the same way we all did.

Nobody understands what Brooks is saying which is why he is universally hated by players and coaches. MSM read it the same way we all did.
- ReveenV2

Fair enough. Brooks is a tool for sure. And it wasn't clear what he was saying.

I am confident he isn't quite insane enough to think the 1st and a stud forward would even be a remote possibility though.