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maria_wyeth
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 09.24.2015

Apr 27 @ 6:40 PM ET
Quenneville: "We felt we had enough ammunition here to find a way to win another one."

Except when you scratch some of the ammunition for much worse players and only start firing on all cylinders in Game 5
jb3333
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.27.2013

Apr 27 @ 6:44 PM ET
Some guy commenting all over Mark Lazerus' twitter is saying we need to trade Panarin and Anisimov for hugging Tarasenko in the handshake line. Says they should have been devastated and crying and the fact that they weren't shows they don't care at all about losing

ETA: he's actually running around to comment that on all the beat writers' twitter accounts

I love that idea for adjusting the hard cap

- maria_wyeth


Yeah-- well both 15 and 72 played hard and showed up-- I'd take both of them on my team any time--

There was a discussion a few months ago we had on this blog about the homegrown salary cap exception idea-- some people had some really great suggestions on it--

333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Apr 27 @ 6:46 PM ET
I don't believe Q for a minute when he suggests there were no injury issues. He's not going to say anything unless it was something like what Oduya sustained in 2014 against the Kings. For one, a GM won't appreciate a coach reciting a laundry list of the nagging injuries on the team if he's trying to make deals. After all, GM speak means everything is fine, we like our team, we see upside with so and so, etc. Never talk down any asset, ever.

I still think Toews played hurt most of the season. A down season like this just doesn't happen at age 26-27 for no reason. It's not because of no Saad, either. This line carried Carcillo before. Even without Hossa being healthy he should still be able to show us what he has, double teamed or not.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 27 @ 6:49 PM ET
Crawford gets snubbed again...

Holtby, Quick and Bishop are nominated for the Vezina.
maria_wyeth
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 09.24.2015

Apr 27 @ 6:49 PM ET
I don't believe Q for a minute when he suggests there were no injury issues. He's not going to say anything unless it was something like what Oduya sustained in 2014 against the Kings. For one, a GM won't appreciate a coach reciting a laundry list of the nagging injuries on the team if he's trying to make deals. After all, GM speak means everything is fine, we like our team, we see upside with so and so, etc. Never talk down any asset, ever.

I still think Toews played hurt most of the season. A down season like this just doesn't happen at age 26-27 for no reason. It's not because of no Saad, either. This line carried Carcillo before. Even without Hossa being healthy he should still be able to show us what he has, double teamed or not.

- 333inthe3rd


I certainly think he was playing hurt after the door took him out, if not before
Glenman12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake County, IL
Joined: 01.13.2010

Apr 27 @ 6:50 PM ET
Finalists announced for Vezina

Bishop

Holtby

Quick
maria_wyeth
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 09.24.2015

Apr 27 @ 6:51 PM ET
Crawford gets snubbed again...

Holtby, Quick and Bishop are nominated for the Vezina.

- DarthKane


what the what

Did Quick even have better stats than Crow in any category this year?!
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Apr 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
Crawford gets snubbed again...

Holtby, Quick and Bishop are nominated for the Vezina.

- DarthKane


Only two goalies from the west have won since Belfour last won it. I don't expect it to be different this time, either.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
what the what

Did Quick even have better stats than Crow in any category this year?!

- maria_wyeth



The GMs vote for this award...very odd that Crawford was left out. I think the award it Holtby's, but Crawford should have been nominated.
MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Apr 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
what the what

Did Quick even have better stats than Crow in any category this year?!

- maria_wyeth


GAA and wins. Quick also had 10 more starts, partly due to Crawford's injury at the end of the regular season. Crawford had a higher save% and more shutouts.
maria_wyeth
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 09.24.2015

Apr 27 @ 6:53 PM ET
Mashinter is a free agent now, right?

I'm thinking Stan needs to get rid of him entirely to stop Q from (frank)ing around with him in the lineup again next season
Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Apr 27 @ 6:56 PM ET
Mashinter is a free agent now, right?

I'm thinking Stan needs to get rid of him entirely to stop Q from (frank)ing around with him in the lineup again next season

- maria_wyeth


Haha 3 year extension a la Bollig
maria_wyeth
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 09.24.2015

Apr 27 @ 6:56 PM ET
The GMs vote for this award...very odd that Crawford was left out. I think the award it Holtby's, but Crawford should have been nominated.
- DarthKane


Agreed on both counts. And before Martinez got injured, Quick had a better blue line in front of him than Crawford did... really don't know why Quick got the nod over him
maria_wyeth
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 09.24.2015

Apr 27 @ 6:58 PM ET
Haha 3 year extension a la Bollig
- Hawks_49


Maybe Stan and Q can come to an agreement that Stan will get rid of Runblad if Q agrees to get rid of Mashinter (or maybe Scotty can suggest it...)
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Apr 27 @ 7:03 PM ET
What I heard about Shaw and Kruger from the organization's perspective a few months ago was "not going anywhere." Some of that may depend on Shaw's agent, but he is RFA.
- John Jaeckel

Hope someone learned the lesson of: Niemi isn't going anywhere else.
Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Apr 27 @ 7:04 PM ET
Maybe Stan and Q can come to an agreement that Stan will get rid of Runblad if Q agrees to get rid of Mashinter (or maybe Scotty can suggest it...)
- maria_wyeth


Haha we can hope! I think that will be the day hell freezes over!
jb3333
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.27.2013

Apr 27 @ 7:11 PM ET
What I heard about Shaw and Kruger from the organization's perspective a few months ago was "not going anywhere." Some of that may depend on Shaw's agent, but he is RFA.
- John Jaeckel


Is it correct that teams can tender an offer sheet to RFA's starting July 1?

Any guesses on which rival teams will tender an offer to Shaw in a strategic attempt to disrupt the Hawks-- I would think that Panik will also get an offer sheet--

Bowman better make some moves on the early side and NOT wait too long--
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 27 @ 7:17 PM ET
Mashinter is a free agent now, right?

I'm thinking Stan needs to get rid of him entirely to stop Q from (frank)ing around with him in the lineup again next season

- maria_wyeth


Sign him for 8 years at the current league minimum.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 27 @ 7:22 PM ET
Is it correct that teams can tender an offer sheet to RFA's starting July 1?

Any guesses on which rival teams will tender an offer to Shaw in a strategic attempt to disrupt the Hawks-- I would think that Panik will also get an offer sheet--

Bowman better make some moves on the early side and NOT wait too long--

- jb3333



Is Shaw the type you offer sheet? I love the guy, but I don't know if you break the bank for him (which would have happened with Saad).

Up to around $3.6 million we'd get a 2nd round pick as compensation. From $3.6 to $5.5 it's a first and a third round pick.

I don't see anyone paying more than $3.6 million for Shaw. But if they did would you consider turning down a first and third to match?
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Apr 27 @ 7:24 PM ET
Crawford gets snubbed again...

Holtby, Quick and Bishop are nominated for the Vezina.

- DarthKane


Quick? What a joke. If it weren't for his D men/5 man D unit his numbers would be abysmal. He loses his net constantly going for the flashy first save
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Apr 27 @ 7:24 PM ET
Sign him for 8 years at the current league minimum.
- DarthKane


And Q will promptly place 53 at 4LW in permanent marker
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Apr 27 @ 7:25 PM ET
Man, Drouin is really fun to watch out there, great vision. TB is a fun team to watch, just not sure they can stop the Pens or Caps.

What a joke Quick over Crawford. Seriously, how do the GMs not see what everyone else does?
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Apr 27 @ 7:25 PM ET
Quick? What a joke. If it weren't for his D men/5 man D unit his numbers would be abysmal. He loses his net constantly going for the flashy first save
- kinigitt


And he got shelled by the Sharks. He was brutal
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Apr 27 @ 7:26 PM ET
Crawford gets snubbed again...

Holtby, Quick and Bishop are nominated for the Vezina.

- DarthKane

Quick. (frank)ing really?!

Wouldn't matter though, Holtby is the runaway winner.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Apr 27 @ 7:26 PM ET
Man, Drouin is really fun to watch out there, great vision. TB is a fun team to watch, just not sure they can stop the Pens or Caps.
- howiehandles


Too bad Stan didn't pony up Gustaffson +Tuevo(as JJ reported) for the Whiny (but super-talented) winger...he's been outstanding so far since being recalled
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