Almost a week later and you're still crying over this series? Get over it buddy you lost Go outside or something
- Isles

I'm not crying over anything. It's called conversations.
You're telling me to go outside? Dude, this isn't even your teams' blog, and yet, you're on here, f**king with the fans.
Don't you have better things to do? Like, going onto the Tampa blog and pissing about dirty hits or something?

Oh please. I've seen all fans over all sports whine about much less, for much longer.
How many plays were called back where the puck actually crossed the goal line for the Panthers that would have made a big difference in this series? How many plays that the puck actually crossed the goal line for the Islanders that were called back?
Tavares scored at least 2 game changing goals that were exactly like the one that they lost sight of in game 1 that Barkov scored, Panthers lose game 1 by a goal.
How many penalties did the Islanders have called on them in OT in this series, the Panthers had multiple ones called on them in OT and at least one of which lead directly to a goal being scored on the following PP. How many penalties were not called on the opponent in the final minute with the empty net for the opponent when the Islanders have the lead and the puck is on the Islanders' stick in the offensive zone, and the opponent comes down and ties the game on the same play, how many games did the Islanders lose like that in this series?
I know for a fact that the fans coming in here talking about (not even Islanders fans, they are bad enough. But other teams' fans) "get over it" would be no less upset about this and would no different. Fans complain about stuff for years, so the "get over" stuff after a few days is just asinine.
And that's not even including the fact that we're talking about playoff games. The screw ups are magnified in those.
- Redemption17

Actually, I was pointing out in my other post that he said he was over it. I never told him to get over it. I simply pointed out what he said. Every fan base has fans that complain about everything and blame it on everything except their own team - including my Red Wings. However, to say that all fans of all teams do this is the only asinine thing I see.

Shut the f**k up, dude! Seriously?

Okay. Let me dumb it down for you, so you could understand. The Wings are up 1-0, with a 1:30 seconds left to tie the series 3-3. They opposing team pulls their goalie. While in play, Datsyuk steals the puck, enters into the offensive zone, and while trying to score on an empty net, he gets tripped right in front of the ref. After missing the net because of the trip, the opposing team takes the puck 200 feet where they end up scoring the tying goal with about 60 seconds left..
You're okay with that?
You're not going to be pissed?
You're telling me that your entire arena of 20,000+ fans wouldn't be booing and chanting "ref, you suck"?
You're telling me there would be no octopus being thrown onto the ice in disgust and anger?
Am I wrong?
- pantherfan12

Yes, you are wrong. Booing, being pissed, or even saying something about an incident is not even close to claiming that you lost en entire series based SOLELY on officiating. For the record, I don't agree with anything being thrown onto the ice. The fan at the Joe that dumped his beer on Boyle should get a lifetime ban. I have absolutely no issue with complaints about poor officiating, but to ignore everything else that happened just to blame the refs is incredibly short-sighted and willfully ignorant of other factors. The Islanders players had no impact with their play? The Panthers couldn't have played better in any area? Every single team in the NHL gets poor officiating along the way. The best teams find ways to play through it.


EDIT: The internet tough guy stuff isn't necessary.

Actually, I was pointing out in my other post that he said he was over it. I never told him to get over it. I simply pointed out what he said. Every fan base has fans that complain about everything and blame it on everything except their own team - including my Red Wings. However, to say that all fans of all teams do this is the only asinine thing I see.
- Striker7

Except this is not game #42 of the regular season and the refs missed a high stick. This was multiple playoff games that were affected by referee calls, in one series. You can only lose 3 games and stay alive. The fact that the refs difectly were a deciding factor in at least 2 of them is going get complaining from a fan base.
It's not the ordinary "whining/whiners". This fanbase would have to be whacked in the head if they just stayed silent and went about their business as usual.

Except this is not game #42 of the regular season and the refs missed a high stick. This was multiple playoff games that were affected by referee calls, in one series. You can only lose 3 games and stay alive. The fact that the refs difectly were a deciding factor in at least 2 of them is going get complaining from a fan base.
It's not the ordinary "whining/whiners". This fanbase would have to be whacked in the head if they just stayed silent and went about their business as usual.
- Redemption17

We'll just agree to disagree then. I think your experience is not unique. Bad officiating happens but I just believe the play of the Islanders was also a factor. Tavares was the best player in the series. And I also think there were missed calls both ways. The timing is frustrating, but the Panthers can also play better and overcome. I think just putting it all on the officials is an over reaction.

Except this is not game #42 of the regular season and the refs missed a high stick. This was multiple playoff games that were affected by referee calls, in one series. You can only lose 3 games and stay alive. The fact that the refs difectly were a deciding factor in at least 2 of them is going get complaining from a fan base.
It's not the ordinary "whining/whiners". This fanbase would have to be whacked in the head if they just stayed silent and went about their business as usual.
- Redemption17

Thank you! Finally, someone that gets it.

Yes, you are wrong. Booing, being pissed, or even saying something about an incident is not even close to claiming that you lost en entire series based SOLELY on officiating. For the record, I don't agree with anything being thrown onto the ice. The fan at the Joe that dumped his beer on Boyle should get a lifetime ban. I have absolutely no issue with complaints about poor officiating, but to ignore everything else that happened just to blame the refs is incredibly short-sighted and willfully ignorant of other factors. The Islanders players had no impact with their play? The Panthers couldn't have played better in any area? Every single team in the NHL gets poor officiating along the way. The best teams find ways to play through it.


EDIT: The internet tough guy stuff isn't necessary.
- Striker7

There is no internet tough guy "stuff" coming from me, brotha. Acting tough does me no good while I sit behind a computer screen, reading about hockey. It's a conversation, and I'm trying to explain myself so that you can understand. Apparently, it's not working.

One more time, YES, I am blaming the outcome of this series completely and SOLELY on the officials. When the refs literally take away goals, and miss blatant and obvious calls that have an immediate impact on the game, how else is a team supposed to win hockey games? I really wish you would've watched the series, because I think you'd understand where the Panther fans are coming from. If we were able to swap out the Wings and Panthers in that series, you'd be saying the exact same thing because you would've seen it first hand.
I actually enjoyed the series to be quite honest. While I am not happy about the end result of the series, obviously, I think it was very entertaining. That is one of the reasons why it bothers me so much. It's not just because my team got screwed out of the playoffs, but because it was such a close series and to have it end that way, just ruins hockey, IMHO.

We'll just agree to disagree then. I think your experience is not unique. Bad officiating happens but I just believe the play of the Islanders was also a factor. Tavares was the best player in the series. And I also think there were missed calls both ways. The timing is frustrating, but the Panthers can also play better and overcome. I think just putting it all on the officials is an over reaction.
- Striker7

Just to reply to this comment as well. That experience is unique. Bad officiating SHOULDN'T happen. There's no excuse for bad officiating. I know it happens, but it shouldn't, especially in the post season. I also believe that if it was a blatant bad or non call by the officials, there should be penalties...i.e. fines, suspensions and such.
Tavares was the best player for the Islanders, but not in the entire series. Reilly Smith held the scoring lead in the entire playoffs during the first series. He was equally as important to the Panthers as Tavares was to the Islanders.

As far as play better and overcome, well again, Panther fans disagree. When the refs literally take away good goals, or miss calls directly in front of them that would impact the outcome of the game, there isn't much else a team can do.

There is no internet tough guy "stuff" coming from me, brotha. Acting tough does me no good while I sit behind a computer screen, reading about hockey. It's a conversation, and I'm trying to explain myself so that you can understand. Apparently, it's not working.

One more time, YES, I am blaming the outcome of this series completely and SOLELY on the officials. When the refs literally take away goals, and miss blatant and obvious calls that have an immediate impact on the game, how else is a team supposed to win hockey games? I really wish you would've watched the series, because I think you'd understand where the Panther fans are coming from. If we were able to swap out the Wings and Panthers in that series, you'd be saying the exact same thing because you would've seen it first hand.
I actually enjoyed the series to be quite honest. While I am not happy about the end result of the series, obviously, I think it was very entertaining. That is one of the reasons why it bothers me so much. It's not just because my team got screwed out of the playoffs, but because it was such a close series and to have it end that way, just ruins hockey, IMHO.
- pantherfan12

Completely and solely??? No way.

Completely and solely??? No way.
- PanthersGoal

Why not?
Had the refs made the right call on the Trocheck trip, we would've at least tied the series and would've headed to game 7. Had they made the right calls during game 3, we would've at least had a 3-0 lead with the Ekblad goal. Of coarse I don't know the outcome of the game because there was a lot of hockey left to play,but if we did have a 3-0 lead, we were dominating that game up until that point, took the wind out of the crowd, and had a very good season when scoring 3 or more goals, the likelihood of us winning that game is very good. Those two examples I gave would've won us the series.
Of coarse I'm not blind and I know there are things that should've been and hopefully will be addressed and improved during the offseason,but that series was so tight, that those two examples that I gave (out of a bunch) changed the outcome of the series. Yes, Barkov could've scored on his penalty shot to end that game, but I am bringing up things that the officials did that wrong that literally took us out of the post season. Heck, even the assist. coach of the Islanders,Doug Weight, admitted that Trocheck was tripped and was shocked when there was no call made. Nothing we're talking about now is going to change the past, but for the sake of argument and pointing out the truth.

Why not?
Had the refs made the right call on the Trocheck trip, we would've at least tied the series and would've headed to game 7. Had they made the right calls during game 3, we would've at least had a 3-0 lead with the Ekblad goal. Of coarse I don't know the outcome of the game because there was a lot of hockey left to play,but if we did have a 3-0 lead, we were dominating that game up until that point, took the wind out of the crowd, and had a very good season when scoring 3 or more goals, the likelihood of us winning that game is very good. Those two examples I gave would've won us the series.
Of coarse I'm not blind and I know there are things that should've been and hopefully will be addressed and improved during the offseason,but that series was so tight, that those two examples that I gave (out of a bunch) changed the outcome of the series. Yes, Barkov could've scored on his penalty shot to end that game, but I am bringing up things that the officials did that wrong that literally took us out of the post season. Heck, even the assist. coach of the Islanders,Doug Weight, admitted that Trocheck was tripped and was shocked when there was no call made. Nothing we're talking about now is going to change the past, but for the sake of argument and pointing out the truth.
- pantherfan12

When you say completely and solely, you're making a fool of yourself. I'll leave it there.

When you say completely and solely, you're making a fool of yourself. I'll leave it there.
- PanthersGoal

alrighty then.

Did you guys see the supposed linked image of the new Panthers logo?

If that's it, I don't really like it. It looks like a Euro soccer team logo or something. Maybe it will just be a shoulder patch..? I guess I should wait to see the whole sweater before making any judgments.

I just like the original/current so much.

http://www.sun-sentinel.c...-logo-20160427-story.html

Did you guys see the supposed linked image of the new Panthers logo?

If that's it, I don't really like it. It looks like a Euro soccer team logo or something. Maybe it will just be a shoulder patch..? I guess I should wait to see the whole sweater before making any judgments.

I just like the original/current so much.

http://www.sun-sentinel.c...-logo-20160427-story.html
- Hank3Henshaw

I like it personally...
Is it a traditional hockey logo? no... but would you prefer if they made it a roundel like the Wild, Jets, etc

Did you guys see the supposed linked image of the new Panthers logo?

If that's it, I don't really like it. It looks like a Euro soccer team logo or something. Maybe it will just be a shoulder patch..? I guess I should wait to see the whole sweater before making any judgments.

I just like the original/current so much.

http://www.sun-sentinel.c...-logo-20160427-story.html
- Hank3Henshaw

It'll be different, but I think it'll end up to look nice.

There is no internet tough guy "stuff" coming from me, brotha. Acting tough does me no good while I sit behind a computer screen, reading about hockey. It's a conversation, and I'm trying to explain myself so that you can understand. Apparently, it's not working.

One more time, YES, I am blaming the outcome of this series completely and SOLELY on the officials. When the refs literally take away goals, and miss blatant and obvious calls that have an immediate impact on the game, how else is a team supposed to win hockey games? I really wish you would've watched the series, because I think you'd understand where the Panther fans are coming from. If we were able to swap out the Wings and Panthers in that series, you'd be saying the exact same thing because you would've seen it first hand.
I actually enjoyed the series to be quite honest. While I am not happy about the end result of the series, obviously, I think it was very entertaining. That is one of the reasons why it bothers me so much. It's not just because my team got screwed out of the playoffs, but because it was such a close series and to have it end that way, just ruins hockey, IMHO.
- pantherfan12

So then the "f you" must have been meant in the kindest way. Actually I saw most of the series minus Game 4 (which I believe you won). You don't know me. You don't know how I would react to anything. The suggestion that you would know is either an indication of hubris or lack of intelligence.

Just to reply to this comment as well. That experience is unique. Bad officiating SHOULDN'T happen. There's no excuse for bad officiating. I know it happens, but it shouldn't, especially in the post season. I also believe that if it was a blatant bad or non call by the officials, there should be penalties...i.e. fines, suspensions and such.
Tavares was the best player for the Islanders, but not in the entire series. Reilly Smith held the scoring lead in the entire playoffs during the first series. He was equally as important to the Panthers as Tavares was to the Islanders.

As far as play better and overcome, well again, Panther fans disagree. When the refs literally take away good goals, or miss calls directly in front of them that would impact the outcome of the game, there isn't much else a team can do.
- pantherfan12

As far as needing better officiating, I agree. I have no issue with a more strict system. Points doesn't always mean best player. Everything I saw from Tavares was dominating, and he came up best at the most important times. Do you speak for everyone else all the time? I am blown away that you don't understand that because YOU feel or think one way that it does not constitute what everyone else feels or thinks. I just read a Panthers fan that disagreed with you. Maybe that gets through? If you want to blame it all on the refs, then go for it I guess. I think you'll be frustrated often though.

Awesome that they resigned Jagr. Guy is great for this team

So then the "f you" must have been meant in the kindest way. Actually I saw most of the series minus Game 4 (which I believe you won). You don't know me. You don't know how I would react to anything. The suggestion that you would know is either an indication of hubris or lack of intelligence.
- Striker7

When did I say "f you"? I told you to " shut the f up", but I didn't say it to be to a tough guy. I'm tired of fans of other teams coming onto our boards and harassing us fans and the blogger of our page. It is getting old.
You say you watched most of the series, yet you never told me what you thought. You told me that I don't know you or anyone else, what you or anyone else thinks, or how you or anyone else feels, yet you never told me what you thought of the series. I've read other Panther fans' opinions on this board, as well as other websites, and they agree with me and Dan 100%. I've also have spoken with other fans in general, and they all said the same thing as I have.
You accused me of being hubris. Well.. yeah.. I guess I am. I am confident in what I said. I said what I said because I am a passionate fan. I love the Panthers, I used to play hockey, and I love the sport. I am confident in what I said not because I think I can read minds and I am acting cocky, but because I know there are other fans out there who are just as passionate as I am. I know how I feel about that series, and I know that if it happened to any other passionate fans' team, they would be feeling the same way I would. Again, not because I think I can read minds, but because I know the Panthers got screwed and no one wants to see their team get screwed. Am I over the series and moving on, absolutely, but I will continue to argue my point until you understand where I am coming from.

As far as needing better officiating, I agree. I have no issue with a more strict system. Points doesn't always mean best player. Everything I saw from Tavares was dominating, and he came up best at the most important times. Do you speak for everyone else all the time? I am blown away that you don't understand that because YOU feel or think one way that it does not constitute what everyone else feels or thinks. I just read a Panthers fan that disagreed with you. Maybe that gets through? If you want to blame it all on the refs, then go for it I guess. I think you'll be frustrated often though.
- Striker7

Okay.
If we had a stricter system, then the proper calls would've been made and the series would've at least gone to game 7. ( Not taking into account game 3 and the phony-bologna offsides call) I guess we agree on this. I really do hope they tighten up on the officials in the future regardless.
Tavares may be a great player, but to say he was the best player in the series is a stretch. He came up best when the officials closed their eyes and he took advantage of the situation. LOL, and yeah, points kind of do matter.

Do I speak for everyone else? No. I speak for the fans that I've spoken with, both of the Panthers and other teams, and we all agree on what happened in that series. I think YOU need to stop coming onto other fans' boards and starting s**t.

Did Dale get a demotion yesterday, or is that just my imagination or how I interpret it?

Did you guys see the supposed linked image of the new Panthers logo?

If that's it, I don't really like it. It looks like a Euro soccer team logo or something. Maybe it will just be a shoulder patch..? I guess I should wait to see the whole sweater before making any judgments.

I just like the original/current so much.

http://www.sun-sentinel.c...-logo-20160427-story.html
- Hank3Henshaw

the Panthers have one of the best logos in the league right now. They should only tweek it. This damages the Panther's brand.

Did Dale get a demotion yesterday, or is that just my imagination or how I interpret it?
- PanthersGoal

From what I've read, it's 100% a promotion. From the Miami Herald, he'll still oversee everything, just have more job duties

From what I've read, it's 100% a promotion. From the Miami Herald, he'll still oversee everything, just have more job duties
- pantherfan12

In the article I just read about the Panthers resigning Gudbranson, they refer to big Dale as the Executive Vice President and GM. Certainly a promotion.

Wonder why they only resigned him one year..? Hopefully a bridge deal or something and they'll resign him for longer next year.

In the article I just read about the Panthers resigning Gudbranson, they refer to big Dale as the Executive Vice President and GM. Certainly a promotion.

Wonder why they only resigned him one year..? Hopefully a bridge deal or something and they'll resign him for longer next year.
- Hank3Henshaw

Many think he still has a lot to prove before he's offered a long term deal.