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BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Apr 28 @ 12:47 AM ET
Eat 💩 Dan Spooogel
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Apr 28 @ 9:33 AM ET
Eat 💩 Dan Spooogel
- BringNYIhome






Problem Child.
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Apr 28 @ 9:27 PM ET
So every single call was wrong. You're literally complaining about everything that didnt go the panthers way.

What about the trip on Reilly smith in game 6? When he was falling down before okposo even touched him?

And will a panther fan ever address when jokinen grabbed hamonics stick as he was dragged 10 ft through our zone?


And they reviewed ekblads goal in game 3 for like 15 mins in Toronto. It was offsides man. Close as ever but it was offside, your coach and player even admitted it......!


And the huberdeau breakaway goal was in game 4, YOU WON THAT GAME!

And tavares' game tying goal in game 6 could've went either way. Us isles fans have seen early whistles (frank) us for years, so I feel no shame when it finally didn't happen, which was the right call too, no way should that of been blown off. Bobby Lou let that puck flop right out, blame him for that one.

Blame yourselves for not converting of the calls you did get, like a few pp in OT and oh yea, A PENALTY SHOT!

- NYI80123



No, I'm not complaining about everything that didn't go the Panthers way, I'm stating a fact about how the officials dictated and ultimately decided against the Florida Panthers. Regardless of the missed opportunities, and other missed calls, the Panthers were still the better team and got hosed.

You are correct about our Powerplay, Tavares' series winning goal, and about the penalty shot. Our powerplay was atrocious. it really was the most frustrating part of the game. We dominated 5 on 5, but it seemed as though the Islanders had the advantage when we were on the powerplay. Everyone expected Barkov to score on that penalty shot. The kid is a wizard in the shootouts, so the entire Panther nation thought that was a goal.
As far as Tavares scoring that last goal, yes, that was a good goal. I don't despute that. The only issue I have is that in game 3, I believe Barkov scored within the first two minutes of the game. His goal was exactly like Tavares' goal, yet the refs blew the whistle too early. Same exact goals, two different outcomes.
With all that being said, I don't really care anymore. The series is over, and I am looking ahead to the draft, free agency, and next season.

Dan's article Is still spot on.
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Apr 28 @ 9:33 PM ET
So you're saying you know EXACTLY how every single fan in the NHL would react? Before you respond, think really hard about this.
- Striker7


That's EXACTLY what I am saying. If your team went through what my team went through, you'd be singing the exact same song. Exactly!
Striker7
Detroit Red Wings
Location: United States, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Apr 28 @ 11:02 PM ET
That's EXACTLY what I am saying. If your team went through what my team went through, you'd be singing the exact same song. Exactly!
- pantherfan12


I am going to assume two things. 1) You are actually an adult. 2) You are being sarcastic. With those assumptions, pretending to have any idea what any fan base is thinking or how they would react is ridiculous. Don't be like Dan and go way overboard.
Striker7
Detroit Red Wings
Location: United States, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Apr 28 @ 11:05 PM ET
No, I'm not complaining about everything that didn't go the Panthers way, I'm stating a fact about how the officials dictated and ultimately decided against the Florida Panthers. Regardless of the missed opportunities, and other missed calls, the Panthers were still the better team and got hosed.

You are correct about our Powerplay, Tavares' series winning goal, and about the penalty shot. Our powerplay was atrocious. it really was the most frustrating part of the game. We dominated 5 on 5, but it seemed as though the Islanders had the advantage when we were on the powerplay. Everyone expected Barkov to score on that penalty shot. The kid is a wizard in the shootouts, so the entire Panther nation thought that was a goal.
As far as Tavares scoring that last goal, yes, that was a good goal. I don't despute that. The only issue I have is that in game 3, I believe Barkov scored within the first two minutes of the game. His goal was exactly like Tavares' goal, yet the refs blew the whistle too early. Same exact goals, two different outcomes.
With all that being said, I don't really care anymore. The series is over, and I am looking ahead to the draft, free agency, and next season.

Dan's article Is still spot on.

- pantherfan12


I think we should see how many of the other bloggers on this site support Dan's opinion. Or maybe they are in on the conspiracy, too?
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 28 @ 11:58 PM ET
What's your guys' take on Brian Campbell? I know he says he wants to return to Florida. How do you guys like him over there? How much do you think it takes to resign him? He's obviously not going to get the $7M+ that he previously got, but what's he worth now?
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Apr 29 @ 3:46 AM ET
What's your guys' take on Brian Campbell? I know he says he wants to return to Florida. How do you guys like him over there? How much do you think it takes to resign him? He's obviously not going to get the $7M+ that he previously got, but what's he worth now?
- tkecanuck341


Well, apparently the Panthers beat writer states that Campbell wants to return, and the Panthers want him back. Apparently, he and his wife have been searching around S.Fla for a new home. I don't see Tallon offering him more than a 2 year contact,maybe at 3 mil a year. I wouldn't mind seeing the Panthers resign him and then try and sign Yandle.
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Apr 29 @ 5:12 AM ET
I think we should see how many of the other bloggers on this site support Dan's opinion. Or maybe they are in on the conspiracy, too?
- Striker7


Well now, that all depends on whether or not the other bloggers watched the entire Panthers/Islanders series or not. Simply reading the article and all the comments made won't look good for the Panthers because they'll end up looking like a cry-baby franchise because their team didn't make it past the 1st round. If they watched the entire series, then I am sure they'll agree.
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Apr 29 @ 5:14 AM ET
I am going to assume two things. 1) You are actually an adult. 2) You are being sarcastic. With those assumptions, pretending to have any idea what any fan base is thinking or how they would react is ridiculous. Don't be like Dan and go way overboard.
- Striker7


We all know what Assuming means, don't we?
Why is it ridiculous to say that I know how other fan bases would think had their team got treated like the Panthers? I can almost guaran-damn-tee that had your favorite team gone through what the Panthers went through in that series, you'd be saying the same exact things. It isn't rocket science. I am not saying it wasn't an entertaining series, nor am I am saying that I am crying over spilled milk, but facts are facts and if a team gets shafted because of officials instead of fair play, then it's obvious that any team and their fans would be pissed about that.
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Apr 29 @ 5:17 AM ET
Dan. This article is right on the money. Everything you wrote in this article is exactly what I was saying to my wife and my buddy, whom also watched the games with me. I don't give a f**k what the people here say, the Panthers got shafted by the officials.
Striker7
Detroit Red Wings
Location: United States, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:11 AM ET
We all know what Assuming means, don't we?
Why is it ridiculous to say that I know how other fan bases would think had their team got treated like the Panthers? I can almost guaran-damn-tee that had your favorite team gone through what the Panthers went through in that series, you'd be saying the same exact things. It isn't rocket science. I am not saying it wasn't an entertaining series, nor am I am saying that I am crying over spilled milk, but facts are facts and if a team gets shafted because of officials instead of fair play, then it's obvious that any team and their fans would be pissed about that.

- pantherfan12


So then you aren't an adult? That makes sense.

EDIT: The fact that you keep defending an indefensible position says everything here. You can provide no factual proof that remotely supports your claim.
Striker7
Detroit Red Wings
Location: United States, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:13 AM ET
Dan. This article is right on the money. Everything you wrote in this article is exactly what I was saying to my wife and my buddy, whom also watched the games with me. I don't give a f**k what the people here say, the Panthers got shafted by the officials.
- pantherfan12


I thought you said you were over this? If so, why even bother continuing to post about it. Just ignore everyone else and talk about the draft then.
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Apr 29 @ 10:56 AM ET
Dan. This article is right on the money. Everything you wrote in this article is exactly what I was saying to my wife and my buddy, whom also watched the games with me. I don't give a f**k what the people here say, the Panthers got shafted by the officials.
- pantherfan12


Almost a week later and you're still crying over this series? Get over it buddy you lost Go outside or something
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 11:51 AM ET
Well, apparently the Panthers beat writer states that Campbell wants to return, and the Panthers want him back. Apparently, he and his wife have been searching around S.Fla for a new home. I don't see Tallon offering him more than a 2 year contact,maybe at 3 mil a year. I wouldn't mind seeing the Panthers resign him and then try and sign Yandle.
- pantherfan12




I agree that he must be staying or he wouldn't be house hunting. I don't think he should stay, and NO to Keith Yandle too.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 29 @ 2:05 PM ET
I agree that he must be staying or he wouldn't be house hunting. I don't think he should stay, and NO to Keith Yandle too.
- PanthersGoal


Is your main concern his age, or has his level of play dropped substantially in recent years?
Redemption17
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 29 @ 2:05 PM ET
What's your guys' take on Brian Campbell? I know he says he wants to return to Florida. How do you guys like him over there? How much do you think it takes to resign him? He's obviously not going to get the $7M+ that he previously got, but what's he worth now?
- tkecanuck341

Whether he stays or goes doesn't matter to me too much. But if he stays he should not play above 3rd pairing though. Cut down his ice time. Take him off the PP, and off the PK if they can. Obviously he won't be getting $7mil a year, significantly reduce that. And no more than 2 year term. But if he goes, meh.
Redemption17
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 29 @ 2:09 PM ET
Is your main concern his age, or has his level of play dropped substantially in recent years?
- tkecanuck341

For me he was always overrated. He was on a stacked Chicago team. And his success in 2011-2012 was mostly due to Garrison having a bomb of a shot. And due to that one season, he is a hero to a lot of Panthers' fans indefinitely.
Redemption17
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 29 @ 2:29 PM ET
So then you aren't an adult? That makes sense.

EDIT: The fact that you keep defending an indefensible position says everything here. You can provide no factual proof that remotely supports your claim.

- Striker7

Oh please. I've seen all fans over all sports whine about much less, for much longer.
How many plays were called back where the puck actually crossed the goal line for the Panthers that would have made a big difference in this series? How many plays that the puck actually crossed the goal line for the Islanders that were called back?
Tavares scored at least 2 game changing goals that were exactly like the one that they lost sight of in game 1 that Barkov scored, Panthers lose game 1 by a goal.
How many penalties did the Islanders have called on them in OT in this series, the Panthers had multiple ones called on them in OT and at least one of which lead directly to a goal being scored on the following PP. How many penalties were not called on the opponent in the final minute with the empty net for the opponent when the Islanders have the lead and the puck is on the Islanders' stick in the offensive zone, and the opponent comes down and ties the game on the same play, how many games did the Islanders lose like that in this series?
I know for a fact that the fans coming in here talking about (not even Islanders fans, they are bad enough. But other teams' fans) "get over it" would be no less upset about this and would no different. Fans complain about stuff for years, so the "get over" stuff after a few days is just asinine.
And that's not even including the fact that we're talking about playoff games. The screw ups are magnified in those.
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
Is your main concern his age, or has his level of play dropped substantially in recent years?
- tkecanuck341


I think he's terribly overrated. He's horrible on the PP, and when he takes a shot it's in a different zip code. He's never missed a game but to me that stat is misleading. He'd have to be a super deal to me, or I'd let him go. And, that's ALL besides his age.
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 3:48 PM ET
Oh please. I've seen all fans over all sports whine about much less, for much longer.
How many plays were called back where the puck actually crossed the goal line for the Panthers that would have made a big difference in this series? How many plays that the puck actually crossed the goal line for the Islanders that were called back?
Tavares scored at least 2 game changing goals that were exactly like the one that they lost sight of in game 1 that Barkov scored, Panthers lose game 1 by a goal.
How many penalties did the Islanders have called on them in OT in this series, the Panthers had multiple ones called on them in OT and at least one of which lead directly to a goal being scored on the following PP. How many penalties were not called on the opponent in the final minute with the empty net for the opponent when the Islanders have the lead and the puck is on the Islanders' stick in the offensive zone, and the opponent comes down and ties the game on the same play, how many games did the Islanders lose like that in this series?
I know for a fact that the fans coming in here talking about (not even Islanders fans, they are bad enough. But other teams' fans) "get over it" would be no less upset about this and would no different. Fans complain about stuff for years, so the "get over" stuff after a few days is just asinine.
And that's not even including the fact that we're talking about playoff games. The screw ups are magnified in those.

- Redemption17


The thing that mainly pisses me off is that they can never take criticism. They over on the Tampa board now arguing about dirty hits. Blatant homers.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 29 @ 4:50 PM ET
I think he's terribly overrated. He's horrible on the PP, and when he takes a shot it's in a different zip code. He's never missed a game but to me that stat is misleading. He'd have to be a super deal to me, or I'd let him go. And, that's ALL besides his age.
- PanthersGoal


Good information. Thanks.
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Apr 29 @ 5:57 PM ET
Oh please. I've seen all fans over all sports whine about much less, for much longer.
How many plays were called back where the puck actually crossed the goal line for the Panthers that would have made a big difference in this series? How many plays that the puck actually crossed the goal line for the Islanders that were called back?
Tavares scored at least 2 game changing goals that were exactly like the one that they lost sight of in game 1 that Barkov scored, Panthers lose game 1 by a goal.
How many penalties did the Islanders have called on them in OT in this series, the Panthers had multiple ones called on them in OT and at least one of which lead directly to a goal being scored on the following PP. How many penalties were not called on the opponent in the final minute with the empty net for the opponent when the Islanders have the lead and the puck is on the Islanders' stick in the offensive zone, and the opponent comes down and ties the game on the same play, how many games did the Islanders lose like that in this series?
I know for a fact that the fans coming in here talking about (not even Islanders fans, they are bad enough. But other teams' fans) "get over it" would be no less upset about this and would no different. Fans complain about stuff for years, so the "get over" stuff after a few days is just asinine.
And that's not even including the fact that we're talking about playoff games. The screw ups are magnified in those.

- Redemption17


Thank you!!!
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Apr 29 @ 5:58 PM ET
I thought you said you were over this? If so, why even bother continuing to post about it. Just ignore everyone else and talk about the draft then.
- Striker7


It's called having a conversation! If someone writes something to me, I'm not going to ignore them. It has nothing to do with "being over it already"
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Apr 29 @ 6:07 PM ET
So then you aren't an adult? That makes sense.

EDIT: The fact that you keep defending an indefensible position says everything here. You can provide no factual proof that remotely supports your claim.

- Striker7


Shut the f**k up, dude! Seriously?

Okay. Let me dumb it down for you, so you could understand. The Wings are up 1-0, with a 1:30 seconds left to tie the series 3-3. They opposing team pulls their goalie. While in play, Datsyuk steals the puck, enters into the offensive zone, and while trying to score on an empty net, he gets tripped right in front of the ref. After missing the net because of the trip, the opposing team takes the puck 200 feet where they end up scoring the tying goal with about 60 seconds left..
You're okay with that?
You're not going to be pissed?
You're telling me that your entire arena of 20,000+ fans wouldn't be booing and chanting "ref, you suck"?
You're telling me there would be no octopus being thrown onto the ice in disgust and anger?
Am I wrong?
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