Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Dan Spiegel: The Pain Of Injustice
Author Message
phxcyots22
Florida Panthers
Location: Charlotte, NC
Joined: 01.10.2012

Apr 25 @ 5:40 PM ET
Right, but where do you draw the line? What's considered to be onside when it's really offsides. Way too subjective in that scenario. It's kinda like the stupid rule where a play is dead when a referee had the intention to blow the whistle; one of the dumbest rules in all of sports
- LetsGoIsles


Very true on where to draw the line... I can't even say that to be honest. Just don't like the idea of suddenly, after 100+ years, we decide that referee judgment cannot be trusted and we must over-analyze the calls. I wonder how many championships would have never occurred in the past if we had video replay!

And 100% agree on the 'dead puck' business. If a play can be made quicker than a ref can blow the whistle, then congrats for executing so quickly...
akwa1
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 04.04.2015

Apr 25 @ 5:52 PM ET
This series was the worst officiated hockey I have ever witness. The whole hockey world saw Trocheck getting tripped. No call made! I believe the incompetence of this crew should be reviewed by the officiating director and not be allowed to work any further playoff games.
I would like to see the on ice officials of that game to render an apology to the Florida
Panthers for there horrible work.

Will some one explain to me how you miss that call !!!

Bags502
New York Islanders
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 5:56 PM ET
This series was the worst officiated hockey I have ever witness. The whole hockey world saw Trocheck getting tripped. No call made! I believe the incompetence of this crew should be reviewed by the officiating director and not be allowed to work any further playoff games.
I would like to see the on ice officials of that game to render an apology to the Florida
Panthers for there horrible work.

Will some one explain to me how you miss that call !!!


- akwa1


Can you explain this one too???

https://twitter.com/Conra...status/724699133353811970
Green52
Washington Capitals
Location: Selkirk, MB
Joined: 01.19.2010

Apr 25 @ 5:57 PM ET
This series was the worst officiated hockey I have ever witness. The whole hockey world saw Trocheck getting tripped. No call made! I believe the incompetence of this crew should be reviewed by the officiating director and not be allowed to work any further playoff games.
I would like to see the on ice officials of that game to render an apology to the Florida
Panthers for there horrible work.

Will some one explain to me how you miss that call !!!


- akwa1

gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you haven't watched much hockey.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 25 @ 6:00 PM ET
In two weeks it won't matter anyway. Tampa is by far the best playoff team in this bracket and will give the winner of the Pens/Caps series serious difficulty. The most surprising thing about the Tampa/Detroit series was that Detroit actually won a game (I thought Tampa would sweep). A Panthers/Lightning series would have been interesting but oh well, maybe another year.
- PghPens668771



You have next week's Powerball numbers too?
akwa1
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 04.04.2015

Apr 25 @ 6:01 PM ET
The coach's challenge rule should be changed. Where as the coach that challenges a play if wrong that team gets a two minute bench minor for delay of game.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 6:05 PM ET
Whatever

The majority of Panthers "fans" are fair weather fans base at best - The worst type of "fans." Seriously, how is this organization still in FLA when a family of four can see a game in excellent seats, park and eat/drink for under $50 TOTAL.

Not only were the Isles the better team, but their organization and fans have paid their dues and DESERVE this victory. Good on them.

I'm also pretty sure Jagr is just as happy to hang'em for the season and go slay supermodels for a few months.

In a word, the Panthers and FLA fans are... unworthy, especially if they're crying conspiracy and blaming the refs for their loss.

- As_I_See_It


Probably inaccurate. Can't tell you for sure, but somehow I don't think this is possible (Two beers in every arena is AT LEAST $10, and probably closer to $20 than $10)

This is irrelevant to the 20 players suiting up for the team. There are only a few places were you can be terrible for large stretches in almost all professional sports and continue to draw attendance. Just doesn't happen that often. (Also, the Islanders were 28th in attendance this year, just saying.

Pretty sure Jags isn't happy about this at all as clearly he's chasing the cup. If he wanted to "slay supermodels" he could prolly do that year round, and not have to put up with the riggers of an NHL season and what it does to your body.

False about the players not "deserving", but the Isles players also "deserve" it. They just "deserve" it a little more. That said I agree that the whining should stop. Other than that, your post just reeks of Maple Leafs superiority to everyone else who's ever laced up hockey skates. And you wonder why your fanbase has the reputation you do.
(Disclaimer, not all TML fans are like this)
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 25 @ 6:05 PM ET
Oh for sure the Isles took it to them in both the OT's last night - and Yah 4 goals in 3 games ain't gonna make it - and for sure the Isles got jobbed also plenty of times - just not good officiating at all - just so obvious on those 2 calls out in the open
- dozerD10

Yeah they were obvious, but let's not pretend that whistles don't get put away in tight, elimination games in every single series.

The asinine, fanatical claims of a petulant blogger that the referees were on the Islanders side and the Islanders didn't "win" the series because it was handed to them is beyond comical.

They were somewhat egregious non-calls, but to say that they caused the Panthers to lose the series is literally one of the saddest things I have ever seen on this website.
akwa1
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 04.04.2015

Apr 25 @ 6:06 PM ET
Green 52
Just to let you know I have watched hockey before you were a gleam in your fathers eyes !
mikes563
Joined: 04.25.2016

Apr 25 @ 6:11 PM ET
Officiating? Seriously? That's why the Cats lost? Florida scored the first goal in 5 of 6 games. Went to OT in three and you list all of them. Bottom line is you couldn't score in OT. You had a penalty shot in one and hit the crossbar in another. That's officiating? Or choking? C'mon give some credit. The Isles played better when they had to and the Panthers didn't. Sour grapes indeed.
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Apr 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
If islanders lost the series the same way would i be pissed at the officiating, of course but at the end of the day 3 OTs could have gone either way

Panthers PP couldnt get the job done while the idlanders did

The panthers inability to get the pucks past griess was there downfall. They were the better team the entire series yet goals win games not time of posession

Bottom line panthers played great but a young team just learned what the islanders learned last year ...special teams win playoff games ( isles didnt score a pp goal last year against the caps)

striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Apr 25 @ 6:28 PM ET
I guess it's the referee's fault that 3 Florida players all collapsed on 1 player leaving Taveres wide open with 54 seconds left to tie it?

Flo lost as Lou was hot & cold game to game & didn't provide adequate goaltending when needed more than anything else.. Their #1 line didn't play well at all & the #3 line was brutal. The only line to show up was the #2 & a few sprinklings here & there of the odd other player. Flo is young & they will learn but wasn't Tavares Barkov's check? He had his back to him collapsing on a different player, as did 2 other Flo players!

Yes that was a penalty before Tavares scored but penalties get missed all the time & fictitious 1's are called all the time as well. No person is in a worse position to call the game than the on ice officials. It's crowded, it's fast, they are taught to watch & call specific things. The 1 biggest fault with all hockey officiating. Just enforce the rules as written.

Ranting about losing because of the officiating is a total waste of time. The NHL could fix it significantly if they choose to but they just don't have the stomach for it. The neanderthals would be complaining endlessly & they still control the NHL. Change is coming with analytics but it will take decades to get these people out of the game.

If the NHL truly enforced the rule book as written, the NHL would be a better game & have significantly more scoring. There would be less injuries & the games wouldn't take as long to play. There is still way to much stick work, hooking, holding, slashing, tripping, etc that goes un penalized which is seriously frustrating when they finally choose to penalize someone for these infractions.

The crosschecking in front off the net, following whistles, players being attacked after solid clean checks needs to be clamped down on hard. I love hard hitting hockey but not hitting to hurt. The TB/DET series was a joke as well with officiating & the scrums after the whistles make the NHL look like a joke. It doesn't make the players seem tough to me just the opposite in fact.

I have never seen a game where I could say I was truly happy with the officiating but accept I'm never going to. All 3 of my boys are officials, I have been RIC for a minor hockey association. 1 is in year 4, 1 6 & the other 8. The 2 older do BC Hockey Hi performance games, Prep & Varsity games at 1 of the academies on Vancouver Island, rep hockey & my oldest has started to do JR B. Just like players they have good games, bad games & sometimes brutal games. There is a human element that comes into play as well.[/img]
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Apr 25 @ 6:29 PM ET
This blog is a microcosm of why no one takes hockey in south Florida seriously.
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Apr 25 @ 6:29 PM ET
Yeah they were obvious, but let's not pretend that whistles don't get put away in tight, elimination games in every single series.

The asinine, fanatical claims of a petulant blogger that the referees were on the Islanders side and the Islanders didn't "win" the series because it was handed to them is beyond comical.

They were somewhat egregious non-calls, but to say that they caused the Panthers to lose the series is literally one of the saddest things I have ever seen on this website.

- eichiefs9


One of the worst calls i ever saw in OT was the strait "holding" call on crosby
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Apr 25 @ 6:31 PM ET
Right, but where do you draw the line? What's considered to be onside when it's really offsides. Way too subjective in that scenario. It's kinda like the stupid rule where a play is dead when a referee had the intention to blow the whistle; one of the dumbest rules in all of sports
- LetsGoIsles


I agree the whole skate on ice or in the air is dumb very NFL.....i thought offsides would be simple, if your over the line before the puck your off side
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Apr 25 @ 6:35 PM ET
Yeah they were obvious, but let's not pretend that whistles don't get put away in tight, elimination games in every single series.

The asinine, fanatical claims of a petulant blogger that the referees were on the Islanders side and the Islanders didn't "win" the series because it was handed to them is beyond comical.

They were somewhat egregious non-calls, but to say that they caused the Panthers to lose the series is literally one of the saddest things I have ever seen on this website.

- eichiefs9

So true - The Cats had plenty of chances to finish it and or even score - Hell it looked like Leddy was playing for the cats half the game with all his turnovers -
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 25 @ 6:47 PM ET
this is specifically for the panthers blogger.


Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
this is specifically for the panthers blogger.


- Isles_since_6

Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Apr 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
this is specifically for the panthers blogger.


- Isles_since_6



Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 25 @ 7:15 PM ET
Dan Spiegel: The Pain Of Injustice
- spiegs13

Good job
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 25 @ 7:19 PM ET
The best part about this blog is it was written by a grown man
- Vukota

What's your definition of grown?
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 25 @ 7:19 PM ET
Good job
- Cptmjl


I think this quote is my favorite:

To be fair, New York didn't win anything. They were handed a series by a set of zebras that should not see the ice again this year if the NHL wants to save themselves any more embarrassment.


leftwinga
New York Islanders
Joined: 04.25.2016

Apr 25 @ 7:45 PM ET
This is actually comical. Do you want some cheese to go along with your whining. Your theory of the NHL wanting the ISLES to advance is ridiculous. How can you guys whine about refs when y'all got a flipping penalty shot in OT? This was simple playoff hockey. The refs swallow the whistle, unless the penalty is atrocious like a two handed slash to break JTs stick. Sure the refs missed calls on both ends, but you guys had your fair share of chances and couldn't beat Greiss. Series would been a whole different affair had Barkov scored on penalty shot. Would y'all still be whining if he scored?? Clutterbuck, twice got hit in the face with no penaly. You guys could not solve Griess, that's why ya lost...stop yet whining and focus on next year.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
This is actually comical. Do you want some cheese to go along with your whining. Your theory of the NHL wanting the ISLES to advance is ridiculous. How can you guys whine about refs when y'all got a flipping penalty shot in OT? This was simple playoff hockey. The refs swallow the whistle, unless the penalty is atrocious like a two handed slash to break JTs stick. Sure the refs missed calls on both ends, but you guys had your fair share of chances and couldn't beat Greiss. Series would been a whole different affair had Barkov scored on penalty shot. Would y'all still be whining if he scored?? Clutterbuck, twice got hit in the face with no penaly. You guys could not solve Griess, that's why ya lost...stop yet whining and focus on next year.
- leftwinga

The nhl likes the islanders? Didn't get that memo.
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 7:48 PM ET
The problem was the ridiculous amount of scoring opportunities that the Panthers could not convert. There were so many passes across the net that never were caught/shot, so many shots that fell just wide, and way too many 2-on-1's that resulted in a poor pass instead of just trying to snipe the net.

Yes, the officiating was terrible, but it did go both ways. Panthers were very close to winning game 5 on an OT penalty shot, don't forget this. If Barkov had made a move whatsoever, he may have scored (I was calling for Huberdeau, and was very upset Barkov got the chance).

The problem with the refs form the Panther side was the timing. There were equally bad calls all around (And also bad no-calls), but it just seemed the timing of the Panthers penalties were just brutal, which makes it seem more one sided.

In the end, it was the Panthers inability to score goals and close out games that was the problem. Maybe 2016 will bring Panthers fans 2 things: A) Much needed playoff experience for the young guys to finish and close games, and B) A blogger who doesn't whine every time the Panthers lose.

- phxcyots22



Yup. Spot on. Officiating is horrible, period! And, these challenges suck too. Coach Gallant who can be very emotional but he seemed pretty calm and didn't blame officiating that it was one sided..it just sucks! In his press conference last night he said that you have to lose once to get experience and learn from the exhaustion and hurt. I believe that, and it seems to hold position with recent great teams that started out as good ones. However, let's see how these NY fans feel about officiating in about a week or so.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next