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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 25 @ 5:53 PM ET
I want them to at least try to ice a competitive roster and that will require a few UFA's. If they still suck I'll continue to support them. I won't support intentional tanking. I find it hilarious that some on here are suggesting not to use the cap space. They will be the first posters to call Aquilini a cheap (frank) of that happens
- CanuckDon



There could be several situations that could come about that the team uses to be competitive, how about making a trade that could bring in secondary scoring, bringing in Lucic will only further the tank situation.

Stamkos I'm dead against paying 10-12m for 64pts, he is 4 years removed from 90+ pt seasons, but the up side on him is greater than Lucic.

Eriksson would be fine but the worry would be his concussion history, although he made it through 82 games last year.

Lucic overrated, undisciplined, slowing down, and not worth spending 6mil a year on...my hope is he resigns in LA and drags that franchise into the gutter.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 5:59 PM ET
There could be several situations that could come about that the team uses to be competitive, how about making a trade that could bring in secondary scoring, bringing in Lucic will only further the tank situation.

Stamkos I'm dead against paying 10-12m for 64pts, he is 4 years removed from 90+ pt seasons, but the up side on him is greater than Lucic.

Eriksson would be fine but the worry would be his concussion history, although he made it through 82 games last year.

Lucic overrated, undisciplined, slowing down, and not worth spending 6mil a year on...my hope is he resigns in LA and drags that franchise into the gutter.

- Makita


Stamkos will be back next year. I suspect he will rebound to a PPG mark. He isn't signing here anyways. People used to worry about Crosbys concussions as well. That wouldn't scare me off on Eriksson. Agree on Lucic. A trade is certainly an option but I don't want to lose any of our young players and we have nothing else of value to offer (that doesn't own a NTC)
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 25 @ 6:11 PM ET
Stamkos will be back next year. I suspect he will rebound to a PPG mark. He isn't signing here anyways. People used to worry about Crosbys concussions as well. That wouldn't scare me off on Eriksson. Agree on Lucic. A trade is certainly an option but I don't want to lose any of our young players and we have nothing else of value to offer (that doesn't own a NTC)
- CanuckDon

Crosby isn't getting concussed cuz of the NHLPA internal memo letting players know that the salary cap and NHL revenues depend on guys like him...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 25 @ 6:14 PM ET
I wonder where Laine and Rodin will play ?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 25 @ 6:16 PM ET
There could be several situations that could come about that the team uses to be competitive, how about making a trade that could bring in secondary scoring, bringing in Lucic will only further the tank situation.

Stamkos I'm dead against paying 10-12m for 64pts, he is 4 years removed from 90+ pt seasons, but the up side on him is greater than Lucic.

Eriksson would be fine but the worry would be his concussion history, although he made it through 82 games last year.

Lucic overrated, undisciplined, slowing down, and not worth spending 6mil a year on...my hope is he resigns in LA and drags that franchise into the gutter.

- Makita


Eriksson & Ladd once Burrows is gone. Non handcuff deals.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:20 PM ET
How to rebuild this roster is the most relevant conversation we will have this summer (IMO). The draft should provide some clarity on direction but there are obviously different opinions so it should be good for a debate or two.
- bloatedmosquito


Oh I agree, I'm not a fan of over paying UFA's, but there will be numerous conversations on options and several differing opinions, similar to last summer
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:23 PM ET
While those additions make the team more competitive, it would at most move the team into Minnesota Wild territory. That team has looked dangerous sometimes and mediocre at others. They are a mix of big contracts, vets and some up and coming young players that have made the playoffs like 4 years in a row without ever being a legitimate threat to winning more than 1 round. Its going to come crashing down on them soon enough
- WhiteLie

To me this is an excellent comparison of what would happen
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 6:25 PM ET
I wonder where Laine and Rodin will play ?
- VANTEL


I think the top 3 will all play in the NHL next year. Good thing we don't have Shink anymore so there is no roadblock for our new prospects
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
I think the top 3 will all play in the NHL next year. Good thing we don't have Shink anymore so there is no roadblock for our new prospects
- CanuckDon

rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Apr 25 @ 6:33 PM ET
While those additions make the team more competitive, it would at most move the team into Minnesota Wild territory. That team has looked dangerous sometimes and mediocre at others. They are a mix of big contracts, vets and some up and coming young players that have made the playoffs like 4 years in a row without ever being a legitimate threat to winning more than 1 round. Its going to come crashing down on them soon enough
- WhiteLie


THIS.

Minnesota is a mess.

Those contracts are brutal.

They wanted to make a splash...

They are now enjoying the fruits of drowning in the back splash.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 25 @ 6:39 PM ET
I think the top 3 will all play in the NHL next year. Good thing we don't have Shink anymore so there is no roadblock for our new prospects
- CanuckDon

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 25 @ 6:43 PM ET
Oh I agree, I'm not a fan of over paying UFA's, but there will be numerous conversations on options and several differing opinions, similar to last summer
- Makita

What you need to do is be patient, wait for some character ufa's to get desperate, then sign them for 1 year. Bennington trades them off at the trade deadline for picks! if he can make some trades next year at the tdl!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 6:45 PM ET
What you need to do is be patient, wait for some character ufa's to get desperate, then sign them for 1 year. Bennington trades them off at the trade deadline for picks! if he can make some trades next year at the tdl!
- K-man25


Flagged. We need our precious cap space
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 25 @ 6:46 PM ET
Benning has signed one UFA for 3 years , one for two years, and one for one year. Both him and Linden have come out and said they have targeted a few reasonably priced UFAs .

Worry much?
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 25 @ 6:47 PM ET
Stammer joins the nucks
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
What you need to do is be patient, wait for some character ufa's to get desperate, then sign them for 1 year. Bennington trades them off at the trade deadline for picks! if he can make some trades next year at the tdl!
- K-man25

Sorry we don't do TDL
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 25 @ 6:58 PM ET
I think one UFA that will be back is Bart. 27 years old played 80 games last year. Cheap , they know him .
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
Benning has signed one UFA for 3 years , one for two years, and one for one year. Both him and Linden have come out and said they have targeted a few reasonably priced UFAs .

Worry much?

- VANTEL


Not sure who you are directing your comment to, I don't worry about much, I'm not running the team. But I get to state my opinions like everyone else...(frank) Lucic. Stamkos is not worth 10-12 mil.

And please define reasonably priced UFA's.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
We will be high on the waiver wire next year so when players like Landon Feraro drop we will have third shot at them
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
Not sure who you are directing your comment to, I don't worry about much, I'm not running the team. But I get to state my opinions like everyone else...(frank) Lucic. Stamkos is not worth 10-12 mil.

And please define reasonably priced UFA's.

- Makita



Comments directed at all those freaking out about long term 5-6 year contracts.

Reasonably priced example. Bartowski 2 years@ 1.5 per.

Bad contract Bartowski 4 years @3.2 per
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 25 @ 7:10 PM ET
Comments directed at all those freaking out about long term 5-6 year contracts.

Reasonably priced example. Bartowski 2 years@ 1.5 per.

Bad contract Bartowski 4 years @3.2 per

- VANTEL

Fair enough, wanted to make sure I wasn't one of the posters you didn't read or respond to
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Apr 25 @ 7:13 PM ET
What you need to do is be patient, wait for some character ufa's to get desperate, then sign them for 1 year. Bennington trades them off at the trade deadline for picks! if he can make some trades next year at the tdl!
- K-man25



Benning is the only GM in the league that doesn't understand this concept.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 25 @ 7:19 PM ET
Fair enough, wanted to make sure I wasn't one of the posters you didn't read or respond to
- Makita


Benning hasn't signed a UFA longer that 3 years. He believes in building through the system.

We need a top 6 but we have Boeser next year most likely , and this years pick will probably be NHL ready, plus we have to find spots for JV and JM soon. I don't see him looking long term at UFAs.

As far as LUcic, Benning turned away once before from his contract, I don't see him going after him long term .
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 7:23 PM ET
Fair enough, wanted to make sure I wasn't one of the posters you didn't read or respond to
- Makita


He only ignores Marwood, this was established yesterday. You are safe
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 7:24 PM ET
Benning is the only GM in the league that doesn't understand this concept.
- classic321


How many GM's successfully unloaded UFAs that had been signed for one year at last years deadline? Hint. Not many
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