Lol. Rask is certainly not even in the same stratosphere as Roy or Marty and never will be.
What do you think of T.J Brodie? That (frank)er Treliving owes us one so maybe a trade straight across would be in order. Not to mention the cap space that would create. Then move a package of prospects and a pick or two for a stop gap goalie until the heir apparent is ready to take over.
General question: Who do we draft at 14 providing we don't win the lottery on Saturday night? I am keen on Gauthier. There are others as well, but that kid could be something special.Big, strong and plays a responsible two way game.
- shoreorrpark

Rask in in a fringe category of potential "hall of fame" goalies in the NHL right now. He isn't even 30 yet! How many of the Roy's, Haseks, Bordures even Thomas goalies played lights out until there mid to late 30's?

Up until last season he had the "highest career save %" of active goalies in the NHL. One of the best SV% of any goalie in history. He won a Vezina and was usually in the top 3 in voting.

Realisticlly he is one of the top 3 goalies in the NHL over the last "half decade" and that's above Price!

The King, Rask, and then..........Price, Quick, Rinne or Crawford?

I don't understand the hate and blame he gets. He had a crappy couple season. Yes, so what?

If you could take salary out of it and asked people to draft a goalie he would get drafted top 5 by almost anyone with a brain, IMO.

Should he be on the table in a trade if need be? Yes.

Should he be a fall guy and be traded for whatever we can get at all costs? Hell no!

Rask in in a fringe category of potential "hall of fame" goalies in the NHL right now. He isn't even 30 yet! How many of the Roy's, Haseks, Bordures even Thomas goalies played lights out until there mid to late 30's?

Up until last season he had the "highest career save %" of active goalies in the NHL. One of the best SV% of any goalie in history. He won a Vezina and was usually in the top 3 in voting.

Realisticlly he is one of the top 3 goalies in the NHL over the last "half decade" and that's above Price!

The King, Rask, and then..........Price, Quick, Rinne or Crawford?

I don't understand the hate and blame he gets. He had a crappy couple season. Yes, so what?

If you could take salary out of it and asked people to draft a goalie he would get drafted top 5 by almost anyone with a brain, IMO.

Should he be on the table in a draft if need be? Yes.

Should he be a fall guy and be traded for whatever we can get at all costs? Hell no!
- JIwasinskiJr

He's not that high (frank)ing good goalie though but #2 in the league? come on. Lundqvist is hardly 1 either..the two of them are head cases

Rask in in a fringe category of potential "hall of fame" goalies in the NHL right now. He isn't even 30 yet! How many of the Roy's, Haseks, Bordures even Thomas goalies played lights out until there mid to late 30's?

Up until last season he had the "highest career save %" of active goalies in the NHL. One of the best SV% of any goalie in history. He won a Vezina and was usually in the top 3 in voting.

Realisticlly he is one of the top 3 goalies in the NHL over the last "half decade" and that's above Price!

The King, Rask, and then..........Price, Quick, Rinne or Crawford?

I don't understand the hate and blame he gets. He had a crappy couple season. Yes, so what?

If you could take salary out of it and asked people to draft a goalie he would get drafted top 5 by almost anyone with a brain, IMO.

Should he be on the table in a trade if need be? Yes.

Should he be a fall guy and be traded for whatever we can get at all costs? Hell no!
- JIwasinskiJr

I strongly disagree. Rask is not a top 10 goalie. Price, Quick, Holtby, Hank, Schneider, Bishop, Old balls Bobby Lou, Gibson, Flower, Jones, and Crawford are all better. Had any one of the aforementioned guys played for the Bruins during the same period we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Not to mention the fact that we would have been celebrating a second cup win in '13.

He's not that high (frank)ing good goalie though but #2 in the league? come on. Lundqvist is hardly 1 either..the two of them are head cases
- Pie

Over the last 5 years.......5 season.

Name me a goalie better than those two over THAT period of time?

If Price played anywhere near as well as he did last season (obviously he couldn't because he was injured) he would be in that top 3 grouping.

And head cases..........?

Bordure, Hasek, Roy etc. all the great ones are crazy. Timmy Thomas had the "greatest year" any goalie has ever had when he won the Cup and he was the craziest if the bunch.

In fact, if Price is as normal as he seems, he may be the calmest and most normal of the group!

Don't care about the order, but if you look at stats, wins, etc. it's tough to come up with anyone better than those two and Price is likely the next guy to get into that group.

Quick and Crawford are close to with the five rings they have together........

Over the last 5 years.......5 season.

Name me a goalie better than those two over THAT period of time?

If Price played anywhere near as well as he did last season (obviously he couldn't because he was injured) he would be in that top 3 grouping.

And head cases..........?

Bordure, Hasek, Roy etc. all the great ones are crazy. Timmy Thomas had the "greatest year" any goalie has ever had when he won the Cup and he was the craziest if the bunch.

In fact, if Price is as normal as he seems, he may be the calmest and most normal of the group!

Don't care about the order, but if you look at stats, wins, etc. it's tough to come up with anyone better than those two and Price is likely the next guy to get into that group.

Quick and Crawford are close to with the five rings they have together........
- JIwasinskiJr

What about Timmy...Rask couldn't do what Timmy did. I like Rask, think he's a great goalie but he's top 10 not top 2

I strongly disagree. Rask is not a top 10 goalie. Price, Quick, Holtby, Hank, Schneider, Bishop, Old balls Bobby Lou, Gibson, Flower, Jones, and Crawford are all better. Had any one of the aforementioned guys played for the Bruins during the same period we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Not to mention the fact that we would have been celebrating a second cup win in '13.
- shoreorrpark

I disagree with you. I think Rask is one of the top 5-10 goalies in the NHL. He is probably closer to the top 3 IMO.

When you have ZERO top pair guy over the last couple seasons, Dougie was close, then you are going to suffer.

Again, not against trading him, but I think he is better than most think.

I have lived through the period between Moog (who was alright) a bunch of garbage and then Thomas......remember the Fernandez guy.........I honestly really don't.

Not having an average goalie sucks!

What about Timmy...Rask couldn't do what Timmy did. I like Rask, think he's a great goalie but he's top 10 not top 2
- Pie

Again, "best year a goalie has ever had in NHL history."

But is he a "Hall of Famer?"

No, because he had a great 4-5 seasons.

Rask has been one of the best goalies over the last five season (SV%, wins, playoff wins, SO,etc.)........fact.

Rask has a Vezina.......fact.

Rask is under 30........fact.

So of the goalies in the NHL he would argably have one of the best chances to make the Hall after The King.

He may countinue to struggle, it's possible. But to deny that he has been one of the best over the last five years is odd and even crazy in my book.

Maybe his time has gone and passed........maybe Price will never be what he was a season ago too. But you can't deny the seasons they had as tops in the sport.

I like Price, I think he is a potential Famer if he countinues his play. But he has had a few (3) very good to great seasons.

Rask has been more consistent and for longer, wether that continues is another question.

Again, "best year a goalie has ever had in NHL history."

But is he a "Hall of Famer?"

No, because he had a great 4-5 seasons.

Rask has been one of the best goalies over the last five season.......fact.

Rask has a Vezina.......fact.

Rask is under 30........fact.

So of the goalies in the NHL he would argably have one of the best chances to make the Hall after The King.

He may countinue to struggle, it's possible. But to deny that he has been one of the best over the last five years is odd and even crazy in my book.

Maybe his time has gone and passed........maybe Price will never be what he was a season ago. But you can't deny the seasons they had as tops in the sport.
- JIwasinskiJr

It has nothing to do with Price. But if you believe what you say then Rask would have won the Stanley in 2012-13. He could be Bobrovsky ...where does he rank with what he had to work with?

I disagree with you. I think Rask is one of the top 5-10 goalies in the NHL. He is probably closer to the top 3 IMO.

When you have ZERO top pair guy over the last couple seasons, Dougie was close, then you are going to suffer.

Again, not against trading him, but I think he is better than most think.

I have lived through the period between Moog (who was alright) a bunch of garbage and then Thomas......remember the Fernandez guy.........I honestly really don't.

Not having an average goalie sucks!


- JIwasinskiJr

I agree that having a average goalie stinks. Pete Peters was my favorite for a while. I remember all of the garbage in between then and now, with the exception of Moog, Lemelin, Ranford, and Thomas. I loved those guys.
I do not love Rask. He just doesn't do it for me. Your goalie needs to steal games for you. He doesn't. He is lucky to have played behind some great squads. Now that the team isn't as sound defensively, his true form is showing.
Disagree all you want, but wait till next year, and if they haven't improved the D by then we will see more of the same.

It has nothing to do with Price. But if you believe what you say then Rask would have won the Stanley in 2012-13. He could be Bobrovsky ...where does he rank with what he had to work with?
- Pie

Price is relavant because he had one of the best years a goalie has ever had last season.

Does that make him one of the top three goalies in the NHL? No.

But if you look at last season the couple good seasons before and the Olympics and you have a few solid years.

The point is ONE SEASON is not a good measuring point in a goalies career.

You have still not named a goalie that would be considered higher than Rask and The King in "Hall of Fame" votes if we had a vote today..............

I honestly don't care to be honest. I like Rask I think he is an elite goalie and I don't think trading him for salary cap reasons is smart.

If they traded him for a solid NHL player I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I'm in the middle.....

Price is relavant because he had one of the best years a goalie has ever had last season.

Does that make him one of the top three goalies in the NHL? No.

But if you look at last season the couple good seasons before and the Olympics and you have a few solid years.

The point is ONE SEASON is not a good measuring point in a goalies career.

You have still not named a goalie that would be considered higher than Rask and The King in "Hall of Fame" votes if we had a vote today..............

I honestly don't care to be honest. I like Rask I think he is an elite goalie and I don't think trading him for salary cap reasons is smart.

If they traded him for a solid NHL player I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I'm in the middle.....
- JIwasinskiJr

I did. I said Bobrovsky, he had a vezina. You said Price. Crawford and Quick...I could argue Reimer considering the poopball he backstopped. The point is Rask is good, not # 2 league wide. especially when you think he inherited a stanley cup team and did what? got angry. Schneider or Bishop? Luongo even Mason or the Eskimo that backed him up

I did. I said Bobrovsky, he had a vezina. You said Price. Crawford and Quick...I could argue Reimer considering the poopball he backstopped. The point is Rask is good, not # 2 league wide. especially when you think he inherited a stanley cup team and did what? got angry. Schneider or Bishop? Luongo even Mason or the Eskimo that backed him up
- Pie

There you go then. Bobrocsky.....maybe. Then Price, and Crawford because of the two Cups. Quick because of the Cups........

Are any of them considered the best goalies in the NHL? Not usually, and that's because of consistency and stats.

Rask has the stats. If you want to argue the "Manning v. Brady" playoff clutch numbers then fine. I value the playoff and Championship stats more than reg. Season usually, then fine.

If you were a betting man. If you HAD TO put your house in the line...........which goalies will have the best seasons next season?

I have not looked but if I guessed Rask would be one of the top five "Vegas" picks going into next season..........homerism aside.

EDIT: Why am I even arguing this? To be honest I think he may be one of the guys most valuable and worth trading for a Shattenkirck anyways!

There you go then. Bobrocsky.....maybe. Then Price, and Crawford because of the two Cups. Quick because of the Cups........

Are any of them considered the best goalies in the NHL? Not usually, and that's because of consistency and stats.

Rask has the stats. If you want to argue the "Manning v. Brady" playoff clutch numbers then fine. I value the playoff and Championship stats more than reg. Season usually, then fine.

If you were a betting man. If you HAD TO put your house in the line...........which goalies will have the best seasons next season?

I have not looked but if I guessed Ras would be one of the top five "Vegas" picks going into next season..........homerism aside.
- JIwasinskiJr

Not rask, but its not impossible. I think There will be more than 5 ahead of him next year...maybe even 10

Not rask, but its not impossible. I think There will be more than 5 ahead of him next year...maybe even 10
- Pie

You are a sarcastic douche usually. As am I, usually.

BUT, IMO he and Price are likely valued the same.

That's the point. Rask and Price........?

If preference of team or stats is your thermometer then they are pretty close to equal...........

I think both could be super stud famers with the right team around them.

If you think either is a lesser player than the other then I don't see the logical argument......

You are a sarcastic douche usually. As am I, usually.

BUT, IMO he and Price are likely valued the same.

That's the point. Rask and Price........?

If preference of team or stats is your thermometer then they are pretty close to equal...........

I think both could be super stud famers with the right team around them.

If you think either is a lesser player than the other then I don't see the logical argument......
- JIwasinskiJr

I'm ok with that comparison. I take Price solely on composure but health wise you'd have to argue Rask.

Can we all agree with Bergy getting the Selke this season!

If tanner isn't stroking Kopitars stick on a random blog then it should be obvious this season, shouldn't it?

So with FOUR Selkes' that would pretty much make Bergy a Hall of Famer, wouldn't it?

That's a good debate and discussion!

MAKE BERGY THE CAPTAIN!!!!!

I'm ok with that comparison. I take Price solely on composure but health wise you'd have to argue Rask.
- Pie

Rask seems to crap his pants (have digestive issues) when big games are required of him, the Olympics and then the Bs season final............

So I wouldn't give Rask "health" necessarily............

But it's too close to call. This my only point.

Can we all agree with Bergy getting the Selke this season!

If tanner isn't stroking Kopitars stick on a random blog then it should be obvious this season, shouldn't it?

So with FOUR Selkes' that would pretty much make Bergy a Hall of Famer, wouldn't it?

That's a good debate and discussion!

MAKE BERGY THE CAPTAIN!!!!!
- JIwasinskiJr

Absolutely! Bergy is the best all around, 200' player in the world. 1st ballot hall of famer. Better than Gainey and Carbonneau but not as good as Trottier. Kopitar is real good. Kessler is a dirt bag. I was hoping both him and Neal would end each others careers.

Absolutely! Bergy is the best all around, 200' player in the world. 1st ballot hall of famer. Better than Gainey and Carbonneau but not as good as Trottier. Kopitar is real good. Kessler is a dirt bag. I was hoping both him and Neal would end each others careers.
- shoreorrpark

You're gonna compare an Art Ross to a Selke?

You're gonna compare an Art Ross to a Selke?
- Pie

No. Not the award, but the player. Trottier did it all. I believe his high point totals kept him from winning the Selke. The man was a ferocious back checker, a hit machine, and extremely offensively gifted. The total package if you will. Just my opinion. Different eras of course, but he played the game the right way. Just like Patrice.

Disagree completely. Also not forgetting a damn thing either. Stick to what I typed and not what you think I'm thinking, ass. Shutting out the idea of trading without knowing what offers maybe out there is not only unintelligent, it's lazy like your half ass insult.
- glove_was_stuck

oh wow. is on.

Great article Ty, but I think it's ridiculous how everyone is giving them a pass this year again and saying that "heads will roll" if this happens again next year. OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN NEXT YEAR! How on earth will it be any different? This is a team that should've been in the playoffs the last two seasons and choked their way out of it. How is that going to change going forward with the same group?

Chara is a real problem for this team in so many ways. He isn't the leader anymore, and his voice can't relate to the younger players. Not to mention he is one of our worst defenceman, is 40 years old, and has one of the largest salaries on the team. Getting rid of him THIS OFFSEASON is one the HAS TO BE ADDRESSED. End of story. Give Bergy the C like he should've been for the last 2 years ( See San Jose Sharks).

I don't even know what to say to the whole trading Rask thing. Soemhow he's getting the fall here. Go ahead, trade him. Have fun looking for an elite goalie for the next 10 years and losing me as a diehard supporter.

Enough is enough.
- TylerSeguin19

let's wait and see what happens this offseason.

by the way, in the other thread, Glove was saying some really unsavory things about your mom.

let's wait and see what happens this offseason.

by the way, in the other thread, Glove was saying some really unsavory things about your mom.
- Fountain-San

- dothedougie

that other thread is a doozy

that other thread is a doozy
- Fountain-San

Its hilarious