Oilers
Leafs
Avs
- Woderwick

I just ran it once....first time in a couple of weeks.

Carolina
Vancouver
Boston

That would really throw the league on its ear.

nothing official yet i don't think, but it sounded like they were leaning towards guys with NMC's have to be protected but guys with NTC's being free game.
- Tumbleweed

Anyone on an entry level contract is off-limits too I believe.

I just ran it once....first time in a couple of weeks.

Carolina
Vancouver
Boston

That would really throw the league on its ear.
- Dollars2Donuts

right. combined that with a small number of teams looking to add goalie.

pitts fans are going to have their lu/Schneider price shock moment.
- Tumbleweed

I'm not expecting a huge return on fleury. I proposed kapanen and our 1st back. So a late first and a guy whose probably a good mid 6 forward. It's more of a clearing salary move since we can replace him internally at elc price. Those are all non-core assets for Toronto and something you do to not have to worry about the goaltending position while the young core gels.

Fwiw there were strong rumors Calgary was offering Sam Bennett or Doug Hamilton for Murray. So the goalie market isn't that bad for sellers.

Anyone on an entry level contract is off-limits too I believe.
- LeftCoaster

Only first two years of elc.

Highly doubt Pittsburgh is moving Murray. He's their future in net and with the expansion draft coming MAF might become available at the draft. (especially if the Pens make a playoff run with Murray) 5.75 per for 3 years is in the bottom half of salaries for starters. Statistically he's been excellent the last two years... 31 years old. Wonder If the leafs would inquire should he become available.
- Brianandr1

Here is the thing about the expansion draft....there will likely only be one expansion team. So, all of this angst over that should just settle down.

A 32 year old G will not be any expansion team's choice. Any expansion team should only be drafting for value, not to make up a roster. Every single pick should just maximize value and then they can use those assets to build a team properly through trades.

It is likely that every single good team out there will lose one decent mid-20's player. No matter what each GM does they will all likely be in the same position. That is just the reality.....so to make every move right now based on that expansion draft is....well, silly.

I've never been a big fan of Fleury and don't believe he's a goalie that steals his teams some games here and there.
- RickJames77

I don't think he is either. I think he's a second grouping goalie but has done it for a long time probably something in the range of 8-15 in terms of top NHL goalies. For the regular season he steals you games in shootouts but that isn't important in playoffs.

I'm not expecting a huge return on fleury. I proposed kapanen and our 1st back. So a late first and a guy whose probably a good mid 6 forward. It's more of a clearing salary move since we can replace him internally at elc price. Those are all non-core assets for Toronto and something you do to not have to worry about the goaltending position while the young core gels.

Fwiw there were strong rumors Calgary was offering Sam Bennett or Doug Hamilton for Murray. So the goalie market isn't that bad for sellers.
- sditulli

The issue is by the time Toronto's young players fully come into the fold, fleury will probably be in his last year or so.

Not worth it for them IMO

Ohhh that's right. My God, how did I forget you were a Manchester United fan


- RickJames77

Dude, you're fron Bwahstun, home of gyhe most vomit-worthy, cheating bags of Richards in all of sports...


You're okay though

Dude, you're fron Bwahstun, home of gyhe most vomit-worthy, cheating bags of Richards in all of sports...


You're okay though
- lumlums

Glad to see the jealousy of Boston runs rampant everywhere

I just ran it once....first time in a couple of weeks.

Carolina
Vancouver
Boston

That would really throw the league on its ear.
- Dollars2Donuts

Don't tell Jim Benning, he'll throw a party...

I could be wrong here, but I thought you could choose some combination of protection. These aren't the actual rules but say for argument sake:

Keep 6 forwards, 2 D, 2G

Or 8fwd, 3D, 1G
- RickJames77

do you really think the pens would protect a 33 year old goalie? (fleury's age next summer)... cause i dont.

Anyone on an entry level contract is off-limits too I believe.
- LeftCoaster

just year 1 or 2... year 3 is free game

I'm not expecting a huge return on fleury. I proposed kapanen and our 1st back. So a late first and a guy whose probably a good mid 6 forward. It's more of a clearing salary move since we can replace him internally at elc price. Those are all non-core assets for Toronto and something you do to not have to worry about the goaltending position while the young core gels.

Fwiw there were strong rumors Calgary was offering Sam Bennett or Doug Hamilton for Murray. So the goalie market isn't that bad for sellers.
- sditulli

source?

the market i know is actual trades. schneider got an 8th overall. i don't think murray has as much trade value as schneider did.

if fleury is not a dump, i don't think toronto will have anything to do with him.

good luck finding another team that is interested in a +30 year goalie making almost $6M.

do you really think the pens would protect a 33 year old goalie? (fleury's age next summer)... cause i dont.
- Dozzer

That has nothing to do with what I said

You made a generic post about how the value of goalies in the trade market were going down and then mentioned Anderson. I remembered hearing there was some sort of combination and was wondering if there was one that involved keeping two goalies. I.E. if a team had two young goalies they didn't want to get rid of. Not saying a team would or would not want to do that, just curious.

source?

the market i know is actual trades. schneider got an 8th overall. i don't think murray has as much trade value as schneider did.

if fleury is not a dump, i don't think toronto will have anything to do with him.

good luck finding another team that is interested in a +30 year goalie making almost $6M.
- Tumbleweed

there were rumours the flames looked into it... but absolutely nothing about what they offered

That has nothing to do with what I said

You made a generic post about how the value of goalies in the trade market were going down and then mentioned Anderson. I remembered hearing there was some sort of combination and was wondering if there was one that involved keeping two goalies. I.E. if a team had two young goalies they didn't want to get rid of. Not saying a team would or would not want to do that, just curious.
- RickJames77

I DECIDE AS TO WHAT YOU MEANT

and i agree with this post.... pancakes are delicious

Leafs will sign Staal..., same for MTL...we get the rejects When is the last time a star player signed in Canada while being UFA?
- Symba007

Toronto will get a high profile UFA long before Montreal does. There is no desire among Americans or non French Canadians to play there.

there were rumours the flames looked into it... but absolutely nothing about what they offered
- Dozzer

bennet/hamilton sounds more like pitts asking price as a opposed to calgary's offer ... or just a false rumor.

Last time I did that, I had a couple who were very angry at me. I don't know why, it's not like I was aiming for the baby carriage...
- Steven_Seagull

Just don't fly to fast my friend, you remember what happened to your brother..

Accurate, well thought out post, you sure you belong on HB ?
- pinksocked

With a post like that he definitely belongs.

Just don't fly to fast my friend, you remember what happened to your brother..
- the_eye

Where is that?

I DECIDE AS TO WHAT YOU MEANT

and i agree with this post.... pancakes are delicious
- Dozzer

with bacon of course.

Where is that?
- lumlums

Ahh..