I think you'd explore both options to get the highest possible combination of picks at the lowest possible cost.

If you trade down then presumably you have another asset or assets you could use along with that 33rd pick (or something else) to try and get another mid-first round selection. Whatever team has the highest pick that you can pry away should be considered.

Not sure how likely it would be for the teams with multiple first round picks to be the trading partners for this because they all finished out of the playoffs and will be fairly desperate to upgrade talent just like the Canucks. Then again maybe Boston (14+20) or Carolina (13+23) has a hankering for someone specific that'd only be available in the top 6. If that's the case then perhaps they'd be willing to sacrifice 10-13 positions on the number two 1st rounder to move up 6 or 7 spots and get the guy they really want with their first pick.
- YeOldTimer

Don't like it. Keep the top-5, crucial building block to be had there.

5th Jury Summons in the last 23 years. What a (frank)ed system.

I think you'd explore both options to get the highest possible combination of picks at the lowest possible cost.

If you trade down then presumably you have another asset or assets you could use along with that 33rd pick (or something else) to try and get another mid-first round selection. Whatever team has the highest pick that you can pry away should be considered.

Not sure how likely it would be for the teams with multiple first round picks to be the trading partners for this because they all finished out of the playoffs and will be fairly desperate to upgrade talent just like the Canucks. Then again maybe Boston (14+20) or Carolina (13+23) has a hankering for someone specific that'd only be available in the top 6. If that's the case then perhaps they'd be willing to sacrifice 10-13 positions on the number two 1st rounder to move up 6 or 7 spots and get the guy they really want with their first pick.
- YeOldTimer

I would hang on our high pick.

NYR are struggling for draft picks. I would offer them Hansen Grenier and a CBJ second for McIlrath and Hayes ( two RFAs)

5th Jury Summons in the last 23 years. What a (frank)ed system.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Easy to get out of . Walk in and ask which ones the guilty one?

I'll always preach BPA in the first round....if you want a goalie grab one in the 5th round etc.

What do you think the Canucks greatest need is? A top 4 D or a 30 goal scorer? For me we need more than Boeser in the pipeline as far as top line scorers go
- CanuckDon

Dubois if we r 4OA.
I've said for years we need a sniper.
Boeser will fill that role down the road but Vrbata showed why we need one as did Naslund.
The D is & always will be an ongoing project as a unit as it is for every team going thru cycles of windows. Depth & constant drafting & development of D should be a strength of JB & only patience is the answer. When their is no clear D in this draft let alone a top 2 stud we go for scoring on the NHL level. I'd like to see 6 solid D as much as anyone but its done by trade or OS fastest IMO.

Trading down & pick say Sergachev is my option if the package makes sense or its BPA as in Mathews Laine Puljaarji Dubois Tkachuk & maybe Jost McLeod etc

Losing Bourdon tragically really hurt us big time.

When we drafted Gradin Smyl & Fraser was our best & an instant 1st line.
Pat Quinn was our master trader & turned the team around overnight.
JB has done great at the draft nabbing Boeser late in the 1st & Tree later on.
I like & see us doing just fine this draft & offseason with JB/TL at the helm.

I would hang on our high pick.

NYR are struggling for draft picks. I would offer them Hansen Grenier and a CBJ second for McIlrath and Hayes ( two RFAs)
- VANTEL

We might be able to try that package for one of those guys, not both I don't think. Maybe if we replaced Grenier(who's worth a bag of pucks) with McCann it could happen. Hayes and McIlrath are both pretty lofty prospects.

We might be able to try that package for one of those guys, not both I don't think. Maybe if we replaced Grenier(who's worth a bag of pucks) with McCann it could happen. Hayes and McIlrath are both pretty lofty prospects.
- neem55

NY have very slim Pickens for draft picks for the next two years.
They are also set on D
Vigneault knows Hansen . Hansen has a cheap contract and alone could be put up for Hayes

We could also offer sheet McIlrath and Rangers would be screwed. It would cost us next years first and third

Dubois if we r 4OA.
I've said for years we need a sniper.
Boeser will fill that role down the road but Vrbata showed why we need one as did Naslund.
The D is & always will be an ongoing project as a unit as it is for every team going thru cycles of windows. Depth & constant drafting & development of D should be a strength of JB & only patience is the answer. When their is no clear D in this draft let alone a top 2 stud we go for scoring on the NHL level. I'd like to see 6 solid D as much as anyone but its done by trade or OS fastest IMO.

Trading down & pick say Sergachev is my option if the package makes sense or its BPA as in Mathews Laine Puljaarji Dubois Tkachuk & maybe Jost McLeod etc

Losing Bourdon tragically really hurt us big time.

When we drafted Gradin Smyl & Fraser was our best & an instant 1st line.
Pat Quinn was our master trader & turned the team around overnight.
JB has done great at the draft nabbing Boeser late in the 1st & Tree later on.
I like & see us doing just fine this draft & offseason with JB/TL at the helm.
- Nighthawk

I like the Tkachuk physicality, I would imagine JB does too given his track record. I'll be happy with anything, as long as they draft D in the 2nd round at the latest. Needs to be a priority. When's the last time top 2 D was landed with a OS or Trade? I think you're a little off with that notion IMO. I like all the players you mentioned though, going to be some talent coming in!

Easy to get out of . Walk in and ask which ones the guilty one?
- VANTEL

I'm already out, just made a phone call. I'm self employed and it would be a financial detriment.

If they don't get one of the top three, I'd like to see Benning pull something off to turn his top 6 pick and 33rd overall into two mid-range first rounders. Based on differing GM opinions and positional needs, multiple players that could be ranked top 10 are likely to be available in the 15-20 spots.
- YeOldTimer

This is the type of scenario i've been mulling for awhile. I think much depends on what JB projects will be a available in the 2nd round. That 2nd rounder is awfully high & difficult for us to trade unless we hit 2 home runs in the 1st IMO

NY have very slim Pickens for draft picks for the next two years.
They are also set on D
Vigneault knows Hansen . Hansen has a cheap contract and alone could be put up for Hayes
- VANTEL

Maybe that's true Hansen for Hayes, given his contract. McIlrath is worth more than Grenier and a 2nd though, he's in the lineup right now looking pretty good for them (both guys look to be young NHL players right now with lots of upside, is what I mean). I agree they are strapped for picks, isn't that a bit par for the course with Sather though? I don't see him trading those guys, but with Krieder and Miller up for RFA as well they do have to make some things happen.

I'm already out, just made a phone call. I'm self employed and it would be a financial detriment.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I like the Tkachuk physicality, I would imagine JB does too given his track record. I'll be happy with anything, as long as they draft D in the 2nd round at the latest. Needs to be a priority. When's the last time top 2 D was landed with a OS or Trade? I think you're a little off with that notion IMO. I like all the players you mentioned though, going to be some talent coming in!
- neem55

Not picking on you , but JB doesn't have a track record. He has drafted 3 first rounders. JV is the only one with a physical side. MCCann and Boeser are scorers. His later round picks have been skilled Dmen mostly. His trades for Vey Etem Sven are not noted for physicality .

I like the Tkachuk physicality, I would imagine JB does too given his track record. I'll be happy with anything, as long as they draft D in the 2nd round at the latest. Needs to be a priority. When's the last time top 2 D was landed with a OS or Trade? I think you're a little off with that notion IMO. I like all the players you mentioned though, going to be some talent coming in!
- neem55

Lindholm is my target @5.4m/6yrs for top 2 D if we can get him.
Vatanen is my 2nd choice n we pair solid defensive/offensive pairings together.
Eg Tanev/BHutt & Edler/Vataanen.
I'm a believer in pairings being complimentary.

Maybe that's true Hansen for Hayes, given his contract. McIlrath is worth more than Grenier and a 2nd though, he's in the lineup right now looking pretty good for them (both guys look to be young NHL players right now with lots of upside, is what I mean). I agree they are strapped for picks, isn't that a bit par for the course with Sather though? I don't see him trading those guys, but with Krieder and Miller up for RFA as well they do have to make some things happen.
- neem55

I would offer next years first or OS him. You would overpay in the first two years but then you get a Boychuck type D for the next 5 years

Maybe that's true Hansen for Hayes, given his contract. McIlrath is worth more than Grenier and a 2nd though, he's in the lineup right now looking pretty good for them (both guys look to be young NHL players right now with lots of upside, is what I mean). I agree they are strapped for picks, isn't that a bit par for the course with Sather though? I don't see him trading those guys, but with Krieder and Miller up for RFA as well they do have to make some things happen.
- neem55

I had heard a few rumblings a while back that Krieder might be available, but I am sure the price would be extremely high to make that move

EDIT: Found a link outlining the rumour: http://thehockeywriters.c...irl-around-chris-kreider/

Not picking on you , but JB doesn't have a track record. He has drafted 3 first rounders. JV is the only one with a physical side. MCCann and Boeser are scorers. His later round picks have been skilled Dmen mostly. His trades for Vey Etem Sven are not noted for physicality .
- VANTEL

With JB trading for Vey Etem & Sven he was looking to fill our age gap & find scoring.
I agree none r physical but Sven has shown he can up his game & greasy more often.
Etem lacks consistency but 1 more year & he can prove to be a very good 3rd liner or he will become a journeyman type of player. Hansen should be his role model.
Vey well idk where he fits in other than maybe a PP specialist at best. He is not good on FO's nor physical & prolly is only a plug or trade bait going forward.

All 3 need to show big improvement next year or will be replaced in time. Sven has the best chance to stick in the top 6 but cannot get complacent & must continue on his current growth path.

With JB trading for Vey Etem & Sven he was looking to fill our age gap & find scoring.
I agree none r physical but Sven has shown he can up his game & greasy more often.
Etem lacks consistency but 1 more year & he can prove to be a very good 3rd liner or he will become a journeyman type of player. Hansen should be his role model.
Vey well idk where he fits in other than maybe a PP specialist at best. He is not good on FO's nor physical & prolly is only a plug or trade bait going forward.

All 3 need to show big improvement next year or will be replaced in time. Sven has the best chance to stick in the top 6 but cannot get complacent & must continue on his current growth path.
- Nighthawk

I was merely pointing out JB doesn't have a track record. It was only his second year.

I was merely pointing out JB doesn't have a track record. It was only his second year.
- VANTEL

Oh i agree but he is going in the right direction.
This year we can better pass judgement on him.
With all the tuurnover the 2016-17 roster will say much.

Oh i agree but he is going in the right direction.
This year we can better pass judgement on him.
- Nighthawk

I was merely pointing out JB doesn't have a track record. It was only his second year.
- VANTEL

If anything, he values speed the most. But he has made several comments which suggest, top 6 needs to be skilled and bottom 6 he prefers some size but all 12 forwards need to skate

When we consider all the bloggers views & opinions here this last year its obvious we say much the same thing. Once we all take a step back & do a 2yr review we can see strong & weaks points both.

1st year we made the playoffs with 101 pts unexpectedly.
2nd year injuries & massive roster changes made year 2 a write off.
Year 3 is where we all want to see what our longterm future looks like.
We should be pushing forward as a playoff bubble team to be a success.
If we end up as a top 5 lotto team again its a sign of trouble or big injuries again.

Summary: expect an eventful offseason & a new era to begin for bad or worse.
I for one have much optimism with the likes of BO Tree BHutt & the prospects.

Not picking on you , but JB doesn't have a track record. He has drafted 3 first rounders. JV is the only one with a physical side. MCCann and Boeser are scorers. His later round picks have been skilled Dmen mostly. His trades for Vey Etem Sven are not noted for physicality .
- VANTEL

That's fairly true, I think he likes bigger and physical players and guys with 200 foot games. JV, Pedan and Tree may be the only physical guys he's picked up, but I find JB "identity change" narrative to be playing bigger tougher hockey in the future. I agree he is a BPA guy though, that's true. Also, Sutter and Sbisa are both physical guys, Sutter may not be a banger but he gets dirty from what I've seen. Both big too.

If anything, he values speed the most. But he has made several comments which suggest, top 6 needs to be skilled and bottom 6 he prefers some size but all 12 forwards need to skate
- WhiteLie

I like that assessment👍🏻👍🏻
Brouwer & M Martin & maybe Eriksson r my choices for UFA's.
Brouwer for FO's plus i like his overall game.
M Martin for a bottom 6 bruiser who scores some.
Eriksson for goals & the PP but that means other deals r needed IMO.
I value cap space highly as a priority every year going forward & as long as JB keeps it under control & spends wisely we can look forward to lots of fun times.

That's fairly true, I think he likes bigger and physical players and guys with 200 foot games. JV, Pedan and Tree may be the only physical guys he's picked up, but I find JB "identity change" narrative to be playing bigger tougher hockey in the future. I agree he is a BPA guy though, that's true.
- neem55

We view him as the Boston Builder , Big Bad Bruins but no ,we are not there