I just think they are worn out from all the hockey they have played the last 3 years, most out of any team. To want to trade everyone because of this is nuts. If they go out first round so be it, even the Kings didn't make the playoffs last year and how many guys did they replace? Some guys on this team will be gone but the core will still be here and will bounce back next year. I'm still not counting out this year
- Rangers99

Yeah could be but the core of this team hasn't gotten the job done either. We have no sniper a shoot first kind of player team is full of pass first 2nd and 3rd line players who make alot of money have no trade clauses and don't produce enough for money they make . Stupid trades like E Staal and to a lesser degree Yandle have hurt this team as much as Sather and his his crazy contracts with no trade clauses.

So humans/athletes never change their minds?
- MidnightMarauder

I'll say one thing. If Lundqvist ever gets traded it would only be if the asked to be traded.

I cant even fathom the Rangers going to him and saying "hey Henrik, how would you feel about playing the rest of your career in calgary?"

After game 3, a bunch of the guys said "for whatever reason" we stopped getting the puck in deep and forechecking hard. So I figured, game 4 would be different. We seem to have the "dump" part down, but the "chase" seems to be missing. And to answer most of the players questions, the "for whatever reason" is that your not moving your feet. So many times, guys are coasting. I don't think the Pens have stopped moving their feet all series.
- gravey914

Here's the reason: they are comfortable and apparently know that they will not lose their place in the lineup regardless of the effort they put forth.

Vigneault as to be called to task here a bit. The team plays with the tiniest minute sense of urgency. The players are responsible, and they definitely are missing leadership amongst personnel, but the coaches are there to light a fire under the team's proverbial @sses and that extra effort has rarely been seen this season.

I agree with this, also tough to knock out the same opponent three years in a row and the series is 3-1. Fourth game is always the hardest to win and didn't you guys just come back last playoffs from 3-1 to beat the caps?
- Senor_Elias

Yea last year round 2 down 3-1 to Washington and year before down 3-1 to Pittsburgh in round 2 then coming back in both those series. That Pittsburgh series and this one are very similar, splitting the first two in Pittsburgh, losing both in New York

You lost me at Dom Moore can return.

No he can't.

Love the guy, and will always appreciate him for his work here, but his time appears to be through.
- MidnightMarauder

I agree, I'm so done with Dom Moore.

It's a must that Lindberg gets his spot full term next season. They didn't trade Oscar for a reason and I can only think that's the reason.

So humans/athletes never change their minds?
- MidnightMarauder

I mean, Ray Bourque played in Boston for 21 years and finally asked for a shot at a cup elsewhere. If Lundqvist is truly as competitive as everyone knows he is, he wont just gladly ride off into the sunset with the Rangers if it means never being a cup champion. At some point you have to imagine they mutually agree to find an opportunity for him to get a chance if its not looking plausible in NY

I'll say one thing. If Lundqvist ever gets traded it would only be if the asked to be traded.

I cant even fathom the Rangers going to him and saying "hey Henrik, how would you feel about playing the rest of your career in calgary?"
- jimbro83

I don't see Gorton approaching him either, but if the Rangers are showing signs of trading some core guys to recoup assets, maybe Hank sees the writing on the wall and asks to be dealt.

It's not likely, but like I stated earlier, I think it would be best if they part ways.

Rangers need to recoup assets, they aren't a serious contender even with Hank, Hank has some good years left in him, it makes sense.

Yeah could be but the core of this team hasn't gotten the job done either. We have no sniper a shoot first kind of player team is full of pass first 2nd and 3rd line players who make alot of money have no trade clauses and don't produce enough for money they make . Stupid trades like E Staal and to a lesser degree Yandle have hurt this team as much as Sather and his his crazy contracts with no trade clauses.
- dman78

Look, Sather was going for it all. They came close in 2014, and thought last year was their year. The d injuries and no zucc ultimately cost them big time. Could've been two cup appearances in two years. The big problem I have with Sather is the signings. His contracts he gave out are absolute horrendous and tough to move to another team. To get rid of a Girardi I could see them having to move a Kreider as well. The contracts like I said are insane.

I agree, I'm so done with Dom Moore.

It's a must that Lindberg gets his spot full term next season. They didn't trade Oscar for a reason and I can only think that's the reason.
- Slimtj100

Agreed, Lindberg is a player and he needs a regular spot in the lineup.

Guys like Moore and Glass simply cannot take up anymore space on the roster while younger, and better, players conitnue to be pawns in Vigneault's virtual musical chairs game.

Look, Sather was going for it all. They came close in 2014, and thought last year was their year. The d injuries and no zucc ultimately cost them big time. Could've been two cup appearances in two years. The big problem I have with Sather is the signings. His contracts he gave out are absolute horrendous and tough to move to another team. To get rid of a Girardi I could see them having to move a Kreider as well. The contracts like I said are insane.
- Anthony5967

They could very well buy Girardi out

I guess we think pretty much alike. Just don't get the he gets a pass on Zucc who had a very good year for us. My opinion Zucc stays period!!!

Stamkos is a dream he will want 10M at least and the Rangers can't afford it. However Ladd would come much cheaper and trading Kreider for Eberle from the Oilers would be great since we know Kreider is going to want a big contract and yet he still makes the same mistakes and barely gets us 20 goals! Hayes on the other hand plays a much better center than wing, taking on Staal and moving him to center was a mistake Hayes should have stayed there Staal can adapt to wing better than Hayes. But oh well!

Defense how do you say thanks and good bye to Girardi? The guy has played hurt all year and has always been a solid defense man. Dylan is a good young kid but he is no Girardi that is for sure and I have serious doubts he ever will be! The Rangers passed up on a lot of solid players that they could have had over Dylan that were drafted later. The list includes Cam Fowler and Vladimir Tarasenko, I guess no crying over spilled milk!!! Staal can be had there are plenty of teams that would be willing to take him who need Defense! Hell the Oilers are desperate for D men of size and so are the Sabers and the list goes on! However you get rid of Staal who takes his place? We will have to kids playing next year with Dylan and Brady and we are trying to win the cup. Unless your talking about a rebuild now rather than later.

Agreed, Lindberg is a player and he needs a regular spot in the lineup.

Guys like Moore and Glass simply cannot take up anymore space on the roster while younger, and better, players conitnue to be pawns in Vigneault's virtual musical chairs game.
- MidnightMarauder

Lindberg's 650K next year is going to be gold for this team who needs low priced guys who can play desperately

one of the biggest problems they have with even having a slither of hope that they can come back again like they have two years in a row is that they just cannot kill a penalty, and this Penguin team is humming at like a 60% powerplay rate right now
- jimbro83

that's crazy, didn't realize NYR PK was ranked 26th this year

I mean, Ray Bourque played in Boston for 21 years and finally asked for a shot at a cup elsewhere. If Lundqvist is truly as competitive as everyone knows he is, he wont just gladly ride off into the sunset with the Rangers if it means never being a cup champion. At some point you have to imagine they mutually agree to find an opportunity for him to get a chance if its not looking plausible in NY
- hawkeytalkman

Ray Bourque is the perfect example.

He is as synonymous with the Bruins as any athlete is, in any other team sport, in history.

But, when Boston was a doormat, they pardoned him to a contending team and he went out a champion.

The Rangers don't have to be a doormat in order to make this transaction. Hank still has about two or three really good years left; make the move now before that cap hit prohibits them from ever having cap flexibility.

Ray Bourque is the perfect example.

He is as synonymous with the Bruins as any athlete is, in any other team sport, in history.

But, when Boston was a doormat, they pardoned him to a contending team and he went out a champion.

The Rangers don't have to be a doormat in order to make this transaction. Hank still has about two or three really good years left; make the move now before that cap hit prohibits them from ever having cap flexibility.
- MidnightMarauder

we're probably gonna butt heads on this issue all summer

but, I'll say it now, if the Rangers trade Lundqvist I'll buy one of those broadway hats, salt it up and eat it and make a video out of it

Lindberg's 650K next year is going to be gold for this team who needs low priced guys who can play desperately
- jimbro83

I gotta wonder if this team's only untouchables are
Hank
McD
Skjei
Stepan
Zucc

Everybody else could possibly be up for grabs. I feel as if Brassard is a guy who should stay but at the same time the same guys disappear at the worst times.

we're probably gonna butt heads on this issue all summer

but, I'll say it now, if the Rangers trade Lundqvist I'll buy one of those broadway hats, salt it up and eat it and make a video out of it
- jimbro83

Can we make it skinny jeans, a plaid shirt, thick glasses and have you eat an organic, certified free-trade Islanders fishsticks jersey?

Can we make it skinny jeans, a plaid shirt, thick glasses and have you eat an organic, certified free-trade Islanders fishsticks jersey?
- eichiefs9

deal

I gotta wonder if this team's only untouchables are
Hank
McD
Skjei
Stepan
Zucc

Everybody else could possibly be up for grabs. I feel as if Brassard is a guy who should stay but at the same time the same guys disappear at the worst times.
- Anthony5967

I don't think Zucc is untouchable, as he only got a one year no trade. Indeed, I think Brassard is probably safer than Zucc.

Lindberg's 650K next year is going to be gold for this team who needs low priced guys who can play desperately
- jimbro83

Throw in McIlrath as well. He won't have the ability to renegotiate a juicy new deal.

I don't think Zucc is untouchable, as he only got a one year no trade. Indeed, I think Brassard is probably safer than Zucc.
- Pete V

yep, Brassard has a NTC, Stepan and Zuccarello do not

Look, Sather was going for it all. They came close in 2014, and thought last year was their year. The d injuries and no zucc ultimately cost them big time. Could've been two cup appearances in two years. The big problem I have with Sather is the signings. His contracts he gave out are absolute horrendous and tough to move to another team. To get rid of a Girardi I could see them having to move a Kreider as well. The contracts like I said are insane.
- Anthony5967

No question he was going for it but Yandle is not a difference maker guy is terrible in his own end takes dumb penaltys that end up in back of net and pp did not improve much if at all . That move was made cause he knew he Franked up with the old man Boyle signing. And Staal even though Gorton made move let's be honest Sather was in his ear . Guy was finished in Carolina and how many players come to NY and resurrect their careers can count them on one hand. But yes contracts are terrible and it's gonna be tough to move a couple.

we're probably gonna butt heads on this issue all summer

but, I'll say it now, if the Rangers trade Lundqvist I'll buy one of those broadway hats, salt it up and eat it and make a video out of it
- jimbro83

I'll always discuss this respectfully and wouldn't want you to eat a hat, for any reason, if I am right on this.

Truth be told, I don't see it happening, but it should.

I gotta wonder if this team's only untouchables are
Hank
McD
Skjei
Stepan
Zucc

Everybody else could possibly be up for grabs. I feel as if Brassard is a guy who should stay but at the same time the same guys disappear at the worst times.
- Anthony5967

Would rather keep Brassard over Stepan.

No question he was going for it but Yandle is not a difference maker guy is terrible in his own end takes dumb penaltys that end up in back of net and pp did not improve much if at all . That move was made cause he knew he Franked up with the old man Boyle signing. And Staal even though Gorton made move let's be honest Sather was in his ear . Guy was finished in Carolina and how many players come to NY and resurrect their careers can count them on one hand. But yes contracts are terrible and it's gonna be tough to move a couple.
- dman78

E.Staal has been getting progressively worse for the past 3 years... It's sad to see him like this.